the genre known as dubstep - search and destroy

Don't know if it's been mentioned yet but Uncle Sam's "Round The World Girls" on the Soul Jazz "Steppa's Delight" comp is absoultely fantastic. Maybe not strictly dubstep, but would def like to hear more stuff like this. Reminds me of an electro-fied Beres Hammond.

I think this is the version I know, sadly can't listen at work to check:

It has been mentioned upthread, I know this because I posted about it:

D1 - Trial run ep is pretty great. The highlight being coincidentally enough the D1, Mind and soul, a fantastic bit of vocal dubstep (vying with Burnin' and Tes la rok's "Round the world girls" for my favourite vocal dubstep tune at the moment) with slinky keys and quite cheesy but cool synth stabs. Vocals on a female r'n'b/chipmunk mode.

― jim, Tuesday, April 17, 2007 10:59 PM (2 years ago)

I kind of went off it tho, D1 track still a totally slept on favourite tho!

too many tho

it's a great crossover track though. i've dabbled with dubstep but am by no means an expert, if i play that track at home/in a club though, people just stop what they're doing for at least a minute.

Any love for the new Boxcutter album, Arecibo Message? I've listened to it 5 or 6 times through, and the first half a bit more than that, and it's not quite up to Glyphic standards but good nonetheless. Fantastic in places, especially the first three tracks and 'A Familiar Sound'. The back end has yet to open up properly for me (oo-er). It's much more dense, claustrophobic and restless than Glyphic, and there's a bit of a cosmic funk feel to a lot of it. Less than half probably counts as dubstep, though weirdly enough the first half of 'Sidetrak' is a dead ringer for Burial.

Boxcutter left me cold. Semi-interesting sounds, but nothing sticks and nothing is memorable.

This, tho --

there's a bit of a cosmic funk feel to a lot of it . . . (and) the first half of 'Sidetrak' is a dead ringer for Burial

-- is intriguing.

I know what you mean by nothing being memorable. I wouldn't quite go that far, but there are precious few tracks of his I'd be able to hum bits of, and last.fm tells me I've listened to Glyphic nearly 20 times through. Still great though.

new Rinse FM show from us, http://www.sendspace.com/file/sx0168

Tracklist here: http://blackdownsoundboy.blogspot.com/2008/01/dusk-blackdown-rinse-archive-page.html

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Based on samples the new 12"s by Untold sounds really ace.

"Dante" sounds not unlike Baby Ford making dubstep.

Untold is one of my absolute favorites right now -- so much space and detail and motion in his work.

yeah that untold record's nice. although the dudes sharing it on slsk are the banniest mfers ever.

also liking akira kiteshi a lot, but he's one of those guys where i'm never quite sure if it "counts" as dubstep.

speaking of not being sure if it "counts" as dubstep, howsabout timeblind's awesome recent 12" for version? great, great, great fucking record. no surprise, coming from timeblind. i actually have a hard time figuring out what i think about his relationship to dubstep, in part i guess because he's been doing his thing since before dubstep had a name, and because tempo and sonics aside, he never quite hews to recognizably dubstep beat structures. (this is not a dig, btw! nor of course would it be a dig if he were, like, totally identifiable as dubstep. but i like this idea of flux in the margins, where you sort of "know" someone is "dubstep" but can't say why.)

i guess i like this idea of identifying with genre, or not identifying -- it's sort of like gender/racial politics. like, does so-and-so identify as a man or woman, or does so-and-so identify as white or black? when genre affiliation gets so overdetermined (i'm probably using that term wrong, so sue me, or revoke my degree, whatever) it's nice to find artists that complicate what you thought you knew about given genres, and yet who also don't claim (or aren't claimed) to be somehow beyond or outside genre.

Have a pretty big-time track ID, Appleblim's Mutek set closer: a kind of trancey beepy synth, perhaps arpeggiated, and vocals involving "rising sun". Any insight would be much appreciated.

i like anaconda a lot. sweat and dante are alright, sweat to my ears at least has an 80s house/dubstep/2step consolidation thing happening, dante seemed to not have much to do with dubstep at all. its cool so many dubstep producers are diversifying but half these tunes that bring in outside influences seem to have little to do with the host genre.

i need to find a good dubstep show to listen to regularly - is there one where you can hear a mix of the wobbly/straight ahead and the more leftfield stuff? anti social seem to play too much laid back/comatose stuff.

Phil. Talking of ideas around the margins, this post is next level: http://rougesfoam.blogspot.com/2009/06/loving-wonky.html

This can be heard in Flying Lotus’s ‘Tea Leaf Dancers’ as the volume for every track except the drumloop rapidly decreases immediately before the kick and rapidly increases immediately after, giving the overall texture an ametrically undulating profile.

FL Studio peak controller madness! Been playing with this a lot, too. Could be any other program, I guess, but FL lets you trigger ridiculous things with peaks.

it's called sidechain and its daft punk's bread and butter

kinda cool to hear the technique used in other genres

Yeah, the reason I think some of it is peak controller is because, from what I understand, it's not a real sidechain. You can use it to trigger any effect, and - I'm not sure if this is the case with sidechain - you don't have to heard the track that's triggering it. I also gather from reading too much dubstepforum that tons of these dudes use FL.

quick! i've just download dubstep allstars volumes 1 through 6, which do i search and what do i destroy?

downloaded

http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=92378

^^^would crash

I've been messing about with Reason to make dubstep tracks recently, and sidechaining is essential, but I'm interested to find out if peak controlling is possible in this program too?

Really really love the Cooly G Hyperdub 12" and the King Midas Sound EP. I guess neither are technically dubstep though (so much for policing the scene!)

okay, i don't listen to this stuff, but i got this new album by CLOAKS in the mail and they are supposed to be dubstep and if other dubstep stuff sounds like this then count me in!

Listening to the audio samples on their myspace they are a bit more breakcore than most dubstep. You might really like aXXo though. They are similarly heavy.

no idea who cloaks are but was listening to beezy i think on rinse on wed night and it was seriously doing it for me.

that cooly g ep is one of my favourite things of the year. i love her. seeing her dj in a week @ tactile, can't wait

Lex have you heard the Dub Organizer stuff she's done?

i've got dub organizer vol 1 - 'dis boy pt 4' is so beautiful. "he says he wants to run away..."

Are they just CD EPs then?

i think there's just one, and mine is on cd - it's not even on discogs :/

(is yr clobbersaurus email up to date?)

Yup.

There are three listed on the BM-Soho shop. 4 songs a piece.

Someone should do a cheesy wobbled-up remix of Live to Tell by Madonna. That would be wicked.

This mix that Untld did for FACT is really doing it for me at the moment

Untold

joker's set from sonar http://bit.ly/eEKXp

Wow, thanks for that, tricky.

Also, nobody's mentioned Tectonic Plates Vol. 2 yet? It's probably the most comprehensive and cohesive dubstep label statement since the early Dubstep Allstars, IMO...

been obsessed with this lately, as effectively used in Joker's Sonar set:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYCzZCmPypk

for reasons im not sure i still really like totally generic dubstep like what youngsta was playing on rinse last night.

So does anyone know of that track I requested an ID (Appleblim's Mutek set closer) a kind of beepy synth, arpeggiated, and vocals involving "rising sun". Any insight would be much appreciated.

enjoying the self titled Clubroot release .

Caspa did the essential mix this week
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/essentialmix/

v unfashionable to say i know but im not very into that joy orbison track. maybe its just over myspace but it just sounds a bit thin. and a bit TOO well produced. polite almost.

I think it's nice but not revelatory. If I want that kind of thing I'll listen to "Serious Thugs" or the funky tunes that go for the same vibe. Not that I know their names, only their female vocal samples, being:

- "IT'S the new sound!"
- "KEEP'S HAPPENING!"
- "ey-EY-ey!"
- "... AND I'M HERE TO TELL YOU!"

Oh, and Pearson Sound's "Wad" of course, which is at least nominally quasi-dubstep. Apparently Pearson Sound actually is Ramadanman, which doesn't surprise...

these should prob go in the "wonky" thread but this one's here and i still don't want to dignify the term "wonky"…but they're absolutely beautiful

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ww0K7XW8WJY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bIR_YmiuVw

Those are great. I like "wonky" that basically sounds like primo grime instrumentals.

have you heard much else by guido and joker, tim?

those are wonky ;)

newish blackdown post that has the internet going macadamias:
http://blackdownsoundboy.blogspot.com/2009/07/where-do-u-call-it.html

lol@this guy in the comments box:
"Blood how can you say mainstream dubstep has lost it when Snoop Dogg is all over it?"

blood, thats exactly how.

anyway, i get what mr clark is saying, but i dont really need to ever hear about 'ldn', feminine pressure, the zone of pointless intensification (is that the one?) or any of those things ever again. the sooner bloggers get rid of those phrases the better, no offence. (also see: references to 'wot do u call it'). but then i dont *totally* hate (well not all of it) the stuff i suspect he says is metal step (or maybe i do, not sure - i quite liked spongebob). im not totally sure how you can write off dubstep but not write off grime either, although i can see why a hard to the core dubstepper might. its easier to discard it completely when you love/believe in something so much rather than have an endlessly frustrating relationship to it.