Marvel Comics blabbery

it's on marvel unlimited! gonna read it real quick.

surprise! it's remender in hateful and weird mode! and the purple man shows up at the end of the first issue. I will be stopping now.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/sienkiewicz-calls-out-fox-over-x-men-apocalypse-dazzler-art-credit

Right now, my favorite Marvel book is Doctor Strange

― Very selfish, and very ironic (DJP), Wednesday, January 13, 2016 9:03 AM (6 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I just started on this (copped the "Timely Comics" three-issues-in-one deal for $1) and, WOW.

I think Aaron's easily the best staff writer at Marvel right now, but I find Strange kind of unreadable - maybe it's the art? Thor is a bit offgame too, compared to the 2012-5 stretch, but it's still fun.

I was a little chagrined about Aaron's move to Marvel because I wasn't crazy about some of his earlier stuff, but I have to admit he's really been knocking it out of the park.

Aaron's first year on Thor - it's one long story - is my fave comic of the past few years. Just this super fun, super-casual epic with no particular continuity. I kind of wish he'd go back to that style with the new Thor.

Was that the one with the Godkiller arc?

I'm a sucker for Chris Bachalo tho, especially having come up on his Shade the Changing Man.

Vision is _really_ good btw.

Keep hearing good things about it. Will it make sense if you have no idea of current marvel universe, or is it all avengers linked?

The issues I read were almost completely isolated from the rest of the Marvel U

they are and thank god. basically you can walk in knowing nothing and it's fine.

Just read the first twos use, they're really fun! Robots arguing about grammar. So far I kind of prefer fhe quotidian stuff to the action stuff, but book's gotta have a plot I guess.

I get why people were interested In him doing Batman now - this seems a lot better, though?

*two issues

batman curdled on the third issue for me tbh
10 issues into vision and 9 into sheriff of babylon and they're both just about the best comix coming out right now on a monthly basis for my money
tom king has a very specific style and i like it a lot.
his run on vision ends at issue 12
http://www.vulture.com/2016/07/sheriff-of-babylon-comic-book-iraq-war.html

imo Omega Men is the DC title written by Tom King to go by, not this Batman run that just started. Like Vision, it's divorced enough from continuity and editorial direction to be its own thing.

Omega Men felt a little compressed at the end - like editorial told him he had to wrap it up before Rebirth - but until the last few issues its the best thing DC has done since Dial H.

we're all omega men now

It was cancelled at 7 then given another 5 issues due to fan outcry.

man DC really has no clue what's good

I couldn't get into Omega Men but I keep hearing good things. Should I try again and persist? I also couldn't get into Dial H, despite wanting to...

I think Tom King was also involved in Grayson, which I enjoyed.

The Omega Men series had an issue #0 I missed on first reading. It sets the stage for the first act, which is otherwise a little muddled although it's doing the work of setting up the basis for the rest of the series. The main plot turn is when their abductee, Kyle Raynor, finally sees why the group is fighting together, despite their different origins.

The actual rebellion/battle would have probably gone on much longer had the series continued, and expanded on the denouement, which nevertheless ends up with the gray moral resolution that the series deserves

i agree about omega men being "compressed"; it's still notably better than about 95% of what DC has put out in the past five years.
i get the sense he really barely has any interest in writing batman but it pays super well and sells books.

Such a boring character for writers. I'd do it in a second of course, but ugh.

from King's Ringer interview:

“Batman is its own beast,” King said. “It’s weird. I write these very thinky comics where there’s no hero. Sheriff doesn’t have a hero; no one at the end of it is gonna be like: ‘Yay! I triumphed and solved terrorism!’ Vision, at the end, it’s set up as a tragedy and I know how it ends, it’s tragic. What Batman is, is a story about a hero triumphant. The best thing Batman can do with me is to be a good comic that takes people a little bit outside of their day, where they can read and be like, ‘Holy shit!’ That gives you a jolt of pleasure. I’m not trying with Batman to be like, ‘OK, here I want to comment on the world.’ I want to make Die Hard.”

pretty sure it's being guided by editorial to use a bunch of characters and plot devices familiar with their movie and tv properties. as the gotham tv show season featuring hugo strange ends and the suicide squad movie comes out, we get batman dealing with... hugo strange and amanda waller

what do you mean by morrison-isms?

darkgrimgritty played through a stream of consciousness filter plus rapid fire mamet dialogue

All respect, but that's the sort of misleading if not inaccurate description of Morrison I'd read in like USA Today

yeah, that is not really Morrison, imo

I thought you'd at least throw in the two or three speech vocalisms he spells out (*tch* or whatever) and uses every series

It's 'tt'. Also 'UUUUIIIIIII' (scream emitting from otherworldly creatures).

thanks, I was going to google for examples at work but I knew you'd have my back :)

Of course. It's one of the like four extremely niche and generally pointless things I'm good for.

i'm a fan of nnnnnaaaaaaAAAAAAAiiiii myself.
intelligent men differ but the psycho pirate stuff and ms. gotham doing the "I'm scared" bit put me in the mind of morrison. I've read my share of it!

I believe that you have! That description doesn't do him justice, though (e.g. his employment of darkgrimgritty is almost always in the service of some loftier comment, rapid fire Mamet dialogue is way more Bendis than Morrison).

Trying too hard to be cool dialogue, I'll give you.

well, less mamet of the Bendis variety

"What did he tell you"
"the boss"
"no the other guy"
"what"
"of course the boss"
"well than just say the boss then"
"I gotta talk the way you want me to?"
"just say the boss"

"i tried to save gotham"
"I know"
"But it just... You can't. You just can't"
"I know"
"Good bye batman"
"Good bye gotham"
KBAMMMM
"hmmm"

as for the "loftier comment", i am not of the school that gives morrison carte blanche. i suppose king's point in this first run is that death changes a man, changes.... A CITY and that minus the meta is not much shallower than much of what I've read of GM as of late

does anyone give morrison carte blanche? c'mon man everyone has good and bad work

i find GMs stuff has a tendency to be overrated but i'm aware i'm in the minority in that for this board.

I'd just like to rep for aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuu (melting robot)

^^^ thanking u for screen name

Haha, you're welcome

Anyway I haven't seen folks mention the Waid/Samnee Black Widow, which just finished a super fun first six issues, and features lots of panels like this:

http://i.imgur.com/PQHmsOW.jpg

Also it's one of the few comics that reads really well on the app with Guided View - maybe better than in print, even

I think of "tt" as being something Morrison had Batman say - where else has he flogged it?

I remember 'hh' (impatient sigh, presumably) being used for Batman.

Yes, I'm really enjoying the current Black Widow series. While I was reading #6 I had the thought that Waid was pitching a ScarJo solo film.

*flips through Invisibles* "TT" first appears two or three issues in

it actually took me a little while of reading Morrison before I realized his predilection was for two letter guttural vocalizations. Wasn't sure if it was that or some weird abbreviation scheme I missed

Sound effects were always the giveaway for which 52 pages GM was writing