Everyone's outside, and it's because of POKÉMON GO

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My phone is too old for this. Surely no-one has ever suffered as much as me.

inside, skeletons are always inside, that's obvious. (dowd), Sunday, 17 July 2016 09:57 (seven years ago) link

literally hundreds of people at 10pm Saturday out by 59th and 5th playing in big crowds. never seen anything like it.

thrusted pelvis-first back (ulysses), Sunday, 17 July 2016 15:48 (seven years ago) link

out in canada! now canucks too can enjoy the world famous failed log-in simulator

Autumn Almanac, Sunday, 17 July 2016 22:14 (seven years ago) link

wonder what changes they'll implement (and when) to keep casual interest up once the craziness dies down. a lot of people don't really give a shit about the gym system and there isn't much to work for if you're one of them. would expect them to ramp up the social media aspect, not just pokemon/item trading but posting/chat, friends list type stuff, gifts, maybe actual one-on-one dueling. but this is all built on the infrastructure of a completely different game with a different and much less massive following

having 3 teams (really 2 and a scrappy underdog) might've been a mistake with so many people. wonder how things would look if they based the teams off the original 8 gyms rather than the original 3 game colors

and there should absolutely be pokemon that are only available to catch/hatch if you're on certain teams. it's not like that right now is it? once they do make trading a thing, is it gonna matter? "does anyone want any of the 14 rattatas we all just caught"

qualx, Sunday, 17 July 2016 22:38 (seven years ago) link

I definitely think a more social element needs to be introduced. Like it's crazy how introspective looking at a terrible approximation of myself walking round a map for hours makes me. I mean, I would be that way anyway, but this is much more formless and given to attacks of dark energy, not unlike Zubat. Someone needs to write a Bionian deconstruction of the Pokemon oeuvre.

Trading is essential. Not out of exclusivity necessarily, though I'd be interested to see what kind of economic system arose out of that within the game. Also think a social 'clan' system could be fruitful for irl meetups and discussions about sightings etc though no idea how that could be executed so that it deflected creepiness. One-on-one duelling would also be a great addition, yes. I like the thought of approaching other players like Pokestops.

i'm guessing their whole roadmap is going out the window at this point.

qualx otm re no unique pokemon per team. right now the choice of team is almost completely arbitrary (apart from yellow's reputation) and the whole gym setup is a bit silly. this more than anything reflects how pokemon go was never meant to be a core offering imo.

Autumn Almanac, Sunday, 17 July 2016 23:03 (seven years ago) link

otoh if they eventually make it so you can interact with people simply over the internet and not based on GPS, and they implement trading, it'll bring with it the kind of unholy black market that nintendo probably doesn't want associated with it. see the recent crap with the counterstrike skins market or the years of WoW character market on ebay.

qualx, Sunday, 17 July 2016 23:18 (seven years ago) link

Went out on the weekend with the bf and kids to play this. And I still dont feel it. I was willing to be turned round on the matter but this is just like Animal Crossing with too much walking. Did nothing for me.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Sunday, 17 July 2016 23:26 (seven years ago) link

if "walking game has too much walking" is a criticism i'm not sure you were reeeeally willing to be turned around on the matter

qualx, Monday, 18 July 2016 03:56 (seven years ago) link

True dat.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 18 July 2016 04:01 (seven years ago) link

Battling at the gyms is pretty shit, isn't it? Would love the turn based thing they used to do. Collecting stuff is fun though. Been finding excuses to walk.

circa1916, Monday, 18 July 2016 06:16 (seven years ago) link

gyms are shit and apparently extremely unbalanced? big problem seems to be that vaporeons are one of the best at fighting and super easy to evolve? every gym is just being run by vaporeons. which are way stronger than flareons for some reason (even though i'm seeing a lot of flareons around too) which are in turn way stronger than jolteons. which makes no sense because jolteons are objectively the cutest? this sucks. i just want jolteons :(

qualx, Monday, 18 July 2016 07:44 (seven years ago) link

the entire game mechanic is shit really if you think about it for more than 2 seconds

qualx, Monday, 18 July 2016 07:46 (seven years ago) link

there's no incentive to actually stick with a single pokemon because the leveling and fighting mechanic is so far from the original series

imagine the end of landmark pokemon original series episode "bye bye butterfree," ash is just like "oh, that butterfree? whatever. i just read a few pages of a book about pokemon so i'll probably find a much higher-leveled base caterpie to evolve soon"

qualx, Monday, 18 July 2016 07:52 (seven years ago) link

"yes, i know that one squirtle with sunglasses is the one i totally fell in love with but it's CP14 and i just learned how to tie a knot so i'm probably going to find like a CP546 one soon so it's off to Professor Hot Oak with it"

qualx, Monday, 18 July 2016 07:55 (seven years ago) link

there's no incentive to actually stick with a single pokemon because the leveling and fighting mechanic is so far from the original series

otm, it's like niantic never really understood the original games. there's no point in the stardust because all it does is power up a pokemon that will be out-powered in a couple of days anyway. today i caught a pinsir with cp1237, so good job i didn't waste time/resources getting a cp879 pinsir up to cp900.

i assume there'll be tweaks in subsequent releases (niantic seemed to do a lot of that with ingress) but they want to get moving on some of the fundamentals before they lose long-term players. once we hit 151 (?) pokemon there's not really anything else to do.

Autumn Almanac, Monday, 18 July 2016 09:08 (seven years ago) link

also fuck a cp10 caterpie that bursts out of great balls and ultra balls

Autumn Almanac, Monday, 18 July 2016 09:09 (seven years ago) link

also magikarp run away. magikarp. fish that are useless half-dead flapping idiots, that do nothing but lie on their side and flail, can run away in a cloud of dust.

Autumn Almanac, Monday, 18 July 2016 10:03 (seven years ago) link

Turned based battles would be the best.

Jeff, Monday, 18 July 2016 10:55 (seven years ago) link

the entire game mechanic is shit really if you think about it for more than 2 seconds

― qualx, Monday, July 18, 2016 3:46 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark

otm

, Monday, 18 July 2016 11:10 (seven years ago) link

Magikarp is awesome. They don't exist to satisfy your whims. Though obviously the best (old?) Pokemon are psyduck and snorlax.

inside, skeletons are always inside, that's obvious. (dowd), Monday, 18 July 2016 12:20 (seven years ago) link

i still don't think a social element should be introduced bc we're only a couple of steps from yr grade school kid is hanging out with weird middle aged guy who wants to show you his anime figurine collection in his basement

, Monday, 18 July 2016 12:23 (seven years ago) link

Literally the most fun thing to do in actual Pokemon is gamely level up a Magikarp into Gyarados by putting it in the #1 slot and grinding.

Sean, let me be clear (silby), Monday, 18 July 2016 12:27 (seven years ago) link

i'm almost halfway to a gyarados, and i live near a beach with an apparently endless supply of magikarps

Autumn Almanac, Monday, 18 July 2016 12:49 (seven years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/LnK70Ct.jpg

skateboard of education (rip van wanko), Monday, 18 July 2016 12:50 (seven years ago) link

"having 3 teams (really 2 and a scrappy underdog)" qualx what do you mean by this? haven't played nearly enough (like, at all) to know what the teams do

lol i thought i'd give this a more determined shot by saying to hell with battery and going on a 5k run with the app open. when i got done i was horrified to see the incubation ticker had not advanced at all. i had missed the li'l mechanic where you actually put the egg in the incubator. whoops.

goole, Monday, 18 July 2016 16:36 (seven years ago) link

which team is the scrappy underdog?

El Tomboto, Monday, 18 July 2016 16:37 (seven years ago) link

I assume yellow?

http://porno (DJP), Monday, 18 July 2016 16:39 (seven years ago) link

yeah yellow's definitely the smallest, though there's a massive stronghold of them at my local fire department

"having 3 teams (really 2 and a scrappy underdog)" qualx what do you mean by this? haven't played nearly enough (like, at all) to know what the teams do

you pick a team (blue/red/yellow) at level 5 and try to take over gyms for that team

it's based on ingress where everyone has a choice of two teams and they try to take over landmarks in a way that coincidentally seems to resemble the game Go

qualx, Monday, 18 July 2016 20:51 (seven years ago) link

from ancient china, not pokemon

qualx, Monday, 18 July 2016 20:52 (seven years ago) link

my measly S3 is getting accustomed to playing this in my apartment and the combined effect of phone with horrible gps that isn't supposed to play game + 8th floor room means the game constantly thinks i'm at a legion post 3 blocks away

but people keep dropping lures there and i got a bulbasaur so nbd

qualx, Monday, 18 July 2016 22:48 (seven years ago) link

I'm surrounded by Red and dumbly picked blue. I've picked up the occasional gym, but basically its a sea of red in my neighborhood :-/

Mainly the point of holding gyms seems to be for getting coin rewards, but the trickle I can pick up makes me despair of ever affording a backpack upgrade.

woke-ing class zero (s.clover), Tuesday, 19 July 2016 03:00 (seven years ago) link

playing this amidst a crowd of hundreds of people who are also playing it and no one is talking to each other is a really weird thing

thrusted pelvis-first back (ulysses), Tuesday, 19 July 2016 14:18 (seven years ago) link

Couldn't you try talking to people?

two crickets sassing each other (dowd), Tuesday, 19 July 2016 14:34 (seven years ago) link

i did! most did not look up!
one dude kinda heckled me as we were both going for a pikachu
"I got it!" "You ain't got it bro" "Ah fuck" "I'm telling you, you ain't got it bro"
ftr, i eventually got it

thrusted pelvis-first back (ulysses), Tuesday, 19 July 2016 14:38 (seven years ago) link

just ran thru all my balls trying to grab a jynx. is that r4r3?? it escaped 3 times, boo

goole, Tuesday, 19 July 2016 16:54 (seven years ago) link

i'm at the jersey shore this week and they definitely have different pokemon here than they do at home. i wonder how many biomes there are.

Mordy, Tuesday, 19 July 2016 17:00 (seven years ago) link

just ran thru all my balls trying to grab a jynx. is that r4r3?? it escaped 3 times, boo

berries are key for this

thos beads (jamescobo), Tuesday, 19 July 2016 21:31 (seven years ago) link

I always learn when to use items after it's too late too; I didn't figure out berries until I was complaining to coworkers about burning like 15 balls catching a Scyther and I totally forgot about great balls until I watched Abra immediately peace out after I saw it in the wild for the first time

thos beads (jamescobo), Tuesday, 19 July 2016 21:32 (seven years ago) link

okay, explain berries please

thrusted pelvis-first back (ulysses), Tuesday, 19 July 2016 22:16 (seven years ago) link

throw a berry at a pokemon, its odds to be captured go up by some unknown amount.

a simba man (Will M.), Tuesday, 19 July 2016 22:20 (seven years ago) link

and the odds of the ball curving away for no reason go up by 38678372526352113

Autumn Almanac, Tuesday, 19 July 2016 22:25 (seven years ago) link

I just found a Clefairy, fed it a berry, hit it with a great ball, and it broke out and ran off; what the FUCK

thos beads (jamescobo), Wednesday, 20 July 2016 00:22 (seven years ago) link

i think curving increases your chances of capture? i've been trying to practice but i'm literally running out of balls. i do know the smaller the target circle is, the better your chances are of keeping the ball shut (according to niantic at least)

half the time i catch one on a "curved" ball i don't get the curveball bonus. it's so janky.

qualx, Wednesday, 20 July 2016 03:31 (seven years ago) link

hot tip:

Eevee: 'Pokémon Go' Players Discover How to Control Evolution of Character
Reddit user smithnigel found renaming the character can determine which evolution Eevee will undergo, which is usually random. Sparky yields Jolteon, Rainer gives Vaporeon and Pyro creates Flareon.

Mordy, Wednesday, 20 July 2016 13:07 (seven years ago) link

im sure they'll have this patched out before i get enough eevee candies to evolve

bitcoin bajas (diamonddave85), Wednesday, 20 July 2016 13:16 (seven years ago) link

Have seen people playing this in the park but I got stuck behind my first Pokemon Go dawdler on my walk to work this morning. Keep moving!

a passing spacecadet, Wednesday, 20 July 2016 13:23 (seven years ago) link

Poss just jealous cz my phone is probably not good enough to run this at all and would def run out of battery within approx 20 minutes even if it did run

a passing spacecadet, Wednesday, 20 July 2016 13:24 (seven years ago) link


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