General fighting games thread

It's EVO time! Psyched to watch the SFV finals on ESPN tomorrow night.
Been watching the SRK streams - they have five this year! - and three guys from my local flew out there to participate so I'm more invested than usual.
Man, I wish I was good at Marvel. Just started getting into Guilty Gear Xrd Revelator and still trucking along w/SFV.

https://i.imgur.com/XvRNfDa.png

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2016/08/simply-a-smashing-timea-visual-tour-of-super-smash-con/

http://www.polygon.com/pc/2016/9/17/12952688/harambe-vs-capcom-video-game-trailer

I see there's a ROM hack attempt at balancing ST, incorporating the better bits of HDR.
http://www.strevival.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=122

This guy Xanadu from KOF 14 is hilarious
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKNAc6p0aAw

what... what is his gimmick??

Ultra Street Fighter II coming to Nintendo Switch... both classic and HDR graphics, two new palette swaps, no word on gameplay changes. I don't plan on getting a Switch so I don't really care.

really weird for a Nintendo system to finally get a port of HDR so many years later

so from what Justin Wong and others were saying

- SF4 throw teching. throwing command is the original. i guess it removes tic throw loops, but still...
- no old characters! way to remove half the game
- akuma has very low life, otherwise he's ST Akuma
- chun's stored super charge is gone
- sagat's tiger knee is dp motion (f, d, df) instead of d to uf

Been getting back into SFV lately due to the huge amount of Season 2 changes, it's a meaty update. Helps that Laura got so many buffs :) Splurged on the Season 2 Character Pass too, not gonna grind out the Fight Money this time. (Plus I would like to buy some stages/costumes this year with FM)

Also put some time this weekend into GGXrd -Revelator-. Great game, though I fear like Marvel the intensity/frequency of input might be too much for me to play competitively. But I'm having a surprising amount of fun just playing with the single-player (and hilarious chaotic and broken) M.O.M. mode. Each character itself is like an entirely different game, so I feel like I'm gonna have to put more time than I actually have into this to explore everyone to decide on a main, though I've enjoyed the weirdness of Ramlethal and Raven so far.

This year's looking pretty good already between Tekken 6, Injustice 2, the next GGX update, and so on... and if the Switch port of Smash comes out this year, I might jump onto that just out of the sheer popularity of the game at locals and online.

Also, after about twenty years of sticking to pads (after beginning on sticks in the arcade back in the late '80s/early '90s) I finally broke down, shelled out the cash for a TE2+ FightStick. No regrets; hitting buttons will always be super fun.

Uh bad double use of "stick" but you know what I'm saying

Capcom might be rebalancing SFV season 2.

https://www.eventhubs.com/news/2017/jan/27/capcom-open-another-balance-patch-pro-tour-season-begins-quick-line-yesterdays-street-fighter-5-blog-seems-suggest-it/

A lot of the changes they made in S2 were odd, giving and taking things without seeming to consider tiers. One rationale I've heard is that all of the current changes have been "in the can" since the 2016 Evo tournament, which was not a good indication of the relative power levels of the characters. For example, Nash was winning a lot around then because he had easy combos that did big damage, while Guile was considered the best of the weak DLC characters. Right before the S2 changes came out, Nash was considered mid and Guile was considered mid-high. S2 comes out and chops off Nash's legs and turns Guile into a god.

Oh, I'm sure there'll be a lot more changes coming. I mean we've only gotten Akuma and we have five more DLC characters to go, and they always sprinkle other balance patches before/after each DLC release. That said some of the more universal changes, like no more meterless untechable/invincible Shoryukens and general weakening of standing anti-air jabs, I think will stick, and good!

They stuck with very few changes in season 1, usually only changing things they deemed bugs -- although they were selective and left other buggy things in. AA jabs were probably a good choice to nerf as they made defense too good. I thought the srks were fine and nerfing them might make the characters more samey.

SRKs are the way they should be IMO regarding knockdown - the attacker should have the advantage (and not be forced to either bait or cross-up which doesn't work often due to to autocorrects). They remain invincible if you use the EX version, costing a bar seems fair to me.

here's a guy who agrees with me on the srks (and infiltration concurs)

https://youtu.be/bsC8io4w1sY?t=5m22s

I actually agree with that in principle (buffing everyone is generally better than nerfing everyone, and more "fun") but SF isn't in danger of having characters feeling too same-y (except notably the Shotokens), like Mortal Kombat or Tekken.
I stand by the SRK nerf. Seriously, Ryu is always plenty strong in these games.

for honor? its not sf-style but its pvp match fighting. don't know how good the controls are, it was fun to watch on twitch. i plan to try it on the next beta

Love Injustice 2. Sure competitively, it'll probably be terrible, but I just love the effort and characters and tone and feel and so on.

it's fun to watch scrubs getting owned by deadshot and darkseid, the day-one zoners.

good evo finals. Punk torn his way through but Tokido destroyed him in the end to finally get his championship

watch punk's eleague matches if you haven't. he was tearing through everyone there.

i missed the end of eLeague, but i saw his matches earlier in the show, he damn good.
he definitely had the skills to beat Tokido, he just lost his composure / got beat by Tokido's experience

http://www.fightersgeneration.com/screens2/arika-fighting-ex-layer.htm

The Streetfighter Ex series always had a mixed reputation but I thought they were some of the most fun 3d fighters. Curious to see how well this one does, I thought these characters would never return.

This channel does quite interesting videos.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sUVNqNSo5M

you in for DBZ or UNIST, RAG?

I don't think I've touched a videogame for 3 years, I just like watching videos about them occasionally. I'd like a go of Zelda: Breath Of The Wild but I probably don't have the patience for playing it anymore.

sad!

that is a good video btw, i think i watched it earlier in the year before MvC:I came out

i kinda liked MvC:I btw. less visually busy compared to MvC2/3, but still pretty crazy and broke when it came down to it. didn't spend much time on it though

sad!

― Nhex, Saturday, January 13, 2018 4:39 AM

It is a little sad but games are just so expensive, time consuming, I've lost interest in gaming challenges, I don't own any consoles and it's difficult justifying a console for a few games I might never play much. I utterly loathe all the DLC and patches stuff. I'm very jaded so hardly anything looks exciting or fun as it used to.
Bloodborne and Dark Souls look right up my street but again, I'm just not up for the challenge. If I could play them with infinite health cheats I'd be very happy.
But I'm always interested in watching videos of whatever cool thing comes out. One of the things I miss most about being a teenager was the absolute certainty I was going to have a great 5 to 40 hours with most things I'd buy.

here's another video I liked.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGSkWVXE2mo

Fantasy Strike does look interesting.

I tried SFV and thought it was fun until I increased the difficulty and realized I would never have a chance against online players. (I couldn’t play online with my pirated copy anyways but I unistalled the game and don’t plan on purchasing it). I also discovered my favorite SFV character is in the lowest tier :(

My all-time favorite fighting game character is Chizuru from the King of Fighters franchise. I like how she creates illusions of herself and is a dance fighter; however, she is one of the hardest characters to control so I mostly just like her from a distance. They haven’t made her a playable character in over a decade. When they do bring ger back, hopefully they will make her moveset more accesible and practical.

Why couldn't you enjoy SFV on a lower difficulty?

Years ago I tried buying some dirt cheap SNK fighting games for kindle and it somehow didn't work. I just bought Garou minutes ago and although it works I can't stand the touchscreen pad and don't particularly want to learn. It's as awkward as I imagined when you can't actually feel the buttons but have to keep your eye on your fingers being in the right place.

Oh god, no, touch screen fightin' just ain't right, especially on ports

I know I'm not gonna have the time to get competitively "good" at it (as if I ever do) but I said to myself "screw it" and pre-ordered Dragonball FighterZ which comes out Friday. Tried the beta, feels great, looks amazing, and tons of fan service for DBZ fans.

is the latest SFV "arcade edition" good? all these editions I can't keep my head straight
I would love a marvel v capcom w/ xmen but I guess the dumb fox/sony thing is at play here? I will wait
kinda tempted by Injustice 2 even though I don't like the DC universe as much

SFV AE is what the game should've been at launch. Has the 12 extra characters from Seasons 1 and 2 (a third one just started), arcade mode, story mode. Feel safe in getting that.

MvC:I is fun but pretty barebones. Also kind of a failure commercially because of many reasons, seems to be dying. Hoping to pick up a complete edition with all the characters/skins if it ever comes out, but there's a chance this could play out like SFxT and never get it

I love the hell out of the Injustice games, but to each his own

Get DBZ, and took a look at UNIST which is about to finally get over here

Thanks!

I watched a lot of the EVO Japan SFV tournament. It was pretty entertaining, especially the pools. Abigail and Menat have added some needed diversity to the game.

any ILXORs playing SFV? I'd like some friends to battle!

i don't play that much now, but if you're on PS4 hit me up: n-hex

I'm RumTum in PS4 SFV. Playstation name is greendat but I don't often play other fighting games.

thanks guys, will give you a shout later...

https://i.imgur.com/O3quT0d.jpgI 100% approve of this

auction tournament for SF 30th Anniversary Collection

https://youtu.be/SxvGhTsB7iY?t=1h36m38s

SonicFox: still gay https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2019/02/12/im-gay-esports-player-years-swagger-inspires-draws-ire/

wow, SonicFox is only 20? damn these kids are young, feels like he's been around forever. good for him though

I think 2d fighting games could learn a thing or two from Smash. What I had in mind was stage design. A gradual slope here and there. A stage on top a train that makes moving one direction a little slower and the other a little faster. Maybe a wooden raft stage that tilts up and down. All of this effecting hitboxes etc. Non-tourney levels could be more far out. I imagine an alley scene with climbable props like a dumpster and those metal fire ecscape platforms which you can use new hanging attacks.

btw thank you sarge for the info about getting the actual inputs in trials. Spent too much time in V squinting at the Sakura trials going 'into what now?'

also liking training mode - quick access to eg anti-air practice, plus things like the red/blue cancel hints are really helpful if your timing has always sucked

Played Lily and Zangief a bit. I did not know that SPD could be done with the old tiger knee motion (back rolled to up-forward) since SF4. Apparently you just need to hit all four cardinal directions (with diagonals allowed), so some hitbox users do back, forward, down, up.

Ken Advanced trial 4...good lord

Avatar battles are surprisingly entertaining
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bTofdgJm3M

BLIND WARRIOR SVEN! @SvenvandeWege #Evo2023 pic.twitter.com/U1Wdc55yrr

— HiFight(ハイファイト) (@HiFightTH) August 4, 2023

I've been watching the SF6 stream and I didn't catch that one. Street Fighter 2 was an early game to use accurate sound placement -- Super Turbo used QSound for instance. SF6 has accessibility sound options and I hope Sven was allowed to use them in the tournament.

In a recent big SF6 tournament, the Zangief player Snake Eyez won 3-0 in the grand finals against a JP player. Zangief is considered one of the worst 2 characters in the game and JP is his worst matchup.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdOYHnnHiG0

Snake Eyez is the same player who won the Evo 2010 HD Remix tournament with Zangief.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vc40bFgQ2w