Free Speech and Creepy Liberalism

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Hey, I think Sady Doyle is annoying as well, but let's perhaps not call those questions the same thing as the abuse Bruenig and others are 'doing their part' in.

Frederik B, Friday, 15 July 2016 21:22 (seven years ago) link

These ppl all just like fights. They're like alcoholic Irish grandparents.

― Treeship, Friday, 15 July 2016 20:56 (20 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

This is nice

poor fiddy-less albion (darraghmac), Friday, 15 July 2016 21:23 (seven years ago) link

weaponizing accusations of bigotry can be abusive too or so i hear

Mordy, Friday, 15 July 2016 21:24 (seven years ago) link

These ppl all just like fights. They're like alcoholic Irish grandparents.

― Treeship

i had an alcoholic irish ancestor who died in an insane asylum and i am very offended by your comment

the event dynamics of power asynchrony (rushomancy), Friday, 15 July 2016 21:25 (seven years ago) link

Me too p much

poor fiddy-less albion (darraghmac), Friday, 15 July 2016 21:25 (seven years ago) link

memories of my irish american uncle high on meds going 80 on a residential street and doing a rollover

F♯ A♯ (∞), Friday, 15 July 2016 21:30 (seven years ago) link

it's not clear to me i have any forebears who were otherwise, rush xp

Treeship, Friday, 15 July 2016 21:30 (seven years ago) link

This is great stuff lads keep it coming

poor fiddy-less albion (darraghmac), Friday, 15 July 2016 21:31 (seven years ago) link

one thing i am grateful to the these ppl for is using humour to puncture the stifling walking-on-eggshells atmosphere on peak Social Justice internet of a couple years ago. i think the wave of SJ stuff was essentially very net good for everyone but there was some overreach and it kinda felt no fun and shrill after a certain pt

de l'asshole (flopson), Friday, 15 July 2016 21:31 (seven years ago) link

ilx has been due an american irish v. ireland irish tiff imho

Mordy, Friday, 15 July 2016 21:33 (seven years ago) link

I used to be very suspicious of St Patricks Day and other commodifications and caricatures of irish identity but I heard someone else express that view once and my Irish contrarianism kicked in. Now I'm all about it.

Treeship, Friday, 15 July 2016 21:35 (seven years ago) link

my dad is bigger than your dad hes got 8 cars and a house in ireland

F♯ A♯ (∞), Friday, 15 July 2016 21:40 (seven years ago) link

Sing it!

Frederik B, Friday, 15 July 2016 21:47 (seven years ago) link

Here comes the hotstepper

Neanderthal, Friday, 15 July 2016 21:55 (seven years ago) link

Jesus lads im being serious you need to not do that ffs

poor fiddy-less albion (darraghmac), Friday, 15 July 2016 22:06 (seven years ago) link

Jesus Lads: the original Socialist Bros

Blowout Coombes (President Keyes), Friday, 15 July 2016 23:44 (seven years ago) link

two weeks pass...

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/04/us/oberlin-professor-accused-of-anti-semitic-remarks-is-placed-on-paid-leave.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur&_r=0

A professor at Oberlin College who made a series of Facebook posts that suggested that Israeli and United States intelligence services were behind terror attacks has been placed on paid leave while the college continues to review the case, the college said Wednesday.

In a statement from Scott Wargo, the director of media relations for Oberlin, the college said that it had been “considering carefully the grave issues surrounding the anti-Semitic postings on social media by Oberlin faculty member Dr. Joy Karega.”

The statement continued: “The faculty governance process that began thereafter is ongoing, and the Oberlin administration will continue to respect this process as it plays out. Until that process is complete, Dr. Karega has been placed on paid leave and will not teach at Oberlin.”

In February, the news site The Tower published the posts made by Dr. Karega, an assistant professor who teaches rhetoric and composition, most dated back to early 2015. The private liberal arts school in Ohio at first defended its faculty members’ rights to express personal views, but in March, Clyde S. McGregor, the board chairman, wrote in a statement on behalf of the college’s board of trustees that “these grave issues must be considered expeditiously.”

That statement also described the posts Dr. Karega made as “anti-Semitic and abhorrent.” In her posts, Dr. Karega suggested that the Islamic State was funded by the C.I.A. and the Mossad organization, the Israeli intelligence service, and that Mossad was behind the Charlie Hebdo shootings in Paris.

In another post, she wrote, “it seems obvious that the same people behind the massacre in Gaza are behind the shooting down” of a Malaysia Airlines plane in 2014. An inquiry in 2015 concluded that the aircraft was likely hit by a Russian-made missile.

Mr. Wargo did not say when Dr. Karega had been placed on leave. Dr. Karega did not immediately respond to an email request for comment on Wednesday.

The president of the college, Marvin Krislov, told alumni in an email message on Wednesday that he was “committed to continuing and completing an equitable review process.”

On Facebook, Dr. Karega seemed to respond: “Equitable?” she wrote on Wednesday, before adding that she had no comment and was on vacation with her daughter.

nothing quoted here seems remotely anti-semitic but regardless, kind of a...problematic look for a liberal arts university

Weird conspiracy theories about Mossad/Zionists have a tinge of anti-Semitism to them for sure though. It's Protocols stuff. BTW she also had a lot of posts about the Rothschilds.

socka flocka-jones (man alive), Wednesday, 3 August 2016 21:19 (seven years ago) link

tbf though, the greater concern for me than anti-Semitism would just be that she sounds batshit

socka flocka-jones (man alive), Wednesday, 3 August 2016 21:20 (seven years ago) link

I have been following this story, and yeah, she is a full-on anti-Semite; we are not talking about Steven Salaita here, we're talking Jew-money-controls-the-media-and-hides-the-truth stuff.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 3 August 2016 21:41 (seven years ago) link

it's cool guys I talked to the Elders of Zion and she'll be out of a job within the week

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 3 August 2016 21:43 (seven years ago) link

sssssssssssshhhhhhhhhh

Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 3 August 2016 21:46 (seven years ago) link

The Provost of Zion

socka flocka-jones (man alive), Wednesday, 3 August 2016 21:47 (seven years ago) link

who's turn is it to bring the bagels to the next meeting?

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 3 August 2016 21:47 (seven years ago) link

"Mossad was behind the Charlie Hebdo shootings in Paris"

well since it is paid leave hopefully she comes up with better material. i'm pulling for her.

salthigh, Wednesday, 3 August 2016 21:59 (seven years ago) link

Remarkably, Mossad is both the creator of ISIS and attempting to draw European powers into a war against ISIS. It's next level black ops.

socka flocka-jones (man alive), Wednesday, 3 August 2016 22:07 (seven years ago) link

they neglected to mention her "rothschilds control the world" posts

Mordy, Wednesday, 3 August 2016 22:07 (seven years ago) link

(i see others got there first)

Mordy, Wednesday, 3 August 2016 22:12 (seven years ago) link

I have been following this story, and yeah, she is a full-on anti-Semite; we are not talking about Steven Salaita here, we're talking Jew-money-controls-the-media-and-hides-the-truth stuff.

― Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, August 3, 2016 2:41 PM (31 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

seems otm

Sean, let me be clear (silby), Wednesday, 3 August 2016 22:15 (seven years ago) link

she seems unstable; how did she get a job at oberlin in the first place?

wizzz! (amateurist), Thursday, 4 August 2016 01:28 (seven years ago) link

this is a decent rundown of her worldview: http://forward.com/opinion/335007/inside-the-twisted-anti-semitic-mind-of-oberlin-professor-joy-karega/

wizzz! (amateurist), Thursday, 4 August 2016 01:32 (seven years ago) link

it's weird to see the usual conspiracy mindset being cast in academies

wizzz! (amateurist), Thursday, 4 August 2016 01:32 (seven years ago) link

er, damn auto-correct: ACADEMESE

wizzz! (amateurist), Thursday, 4 August 2016 01:32 (seven years ago) link

for people complaining today's students are coddled and oversensitive, they sure sound whiny

socka flocka-jones (man alive), Thursday, 4 August 2016 20:05 (seven years ago) link

yes, but it's their money

Mordy, Thursday, 4 August 2016 20:05 (seven years ago) link

i would feel worse if their chief examples weren't places with massive endowments like princeton and amherst

wizzz! (amateurist), Thursday, 4 August 2016 20:39 (seven years ago) link

and yale (endowment: $27 billion)

wizzz! (amateurist), Thursday, 4 August 2016 20:41 (seven years ago) link

"Their" money --pshaw! Some communist you are!

socka flocka-jones (man alive), Thursday, 4 August 2016 22:42 (seven years ago) link

lol i just meant that there are higher stakes for the university than can just be dismissed with "stop complaining" - fwiw i agree w/ u that they sound whiney. i also agree that they should be forcibly liberated of their money but i don't think we should give it to yale. yale's funding should also be forcibly liberated.

Mordy, Thursday, 4 August 2016 22:46 (seven years ago) link

Agree. Expropriation for Amherst is not high on my wish list.

socka flocka-jones (man alive), Friday, 5 August 2016 00:04 (seven years ago) link

chait set himself up here

https://twitter.com/jonathanchait/status/761604753411436548

now he's complaining about "leftists" accusing him of supporting trump

woke-ing class zero (s.clover), Saturday, 6 August 2016 01:02 (seven years ago) link

Wow tweets are not funny

Blowout Coombes (President Keyes), Saturday, 6 August 2016 01:26 (seven years ago) link

i'm not sure who we're supposed to be mad at, or who we are supposed to be laughing at, here. sterling, can you clarify?

wizzz! (amateurist), Saturday, 6 August 2016 03:38 (seven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxuiJUMun7A

Treeship, Saturday, 6 August 2016 04:40 (seven years ago) link

afaict the center of the socialist/weird twitter venn diagram thinks chait is a total dope, so anything that annoys him is by definition worthwhile or funny

intheblanks, Saturday, 6 August 2016 04:56 (seven years ago) link

i may be wrong though, i sometimes struggle with pointless twitter beefs

intheblanks, Saturday, 6 August 2016 04:57 (seven years ago) link

chait posted a dumb thing saying "don't post the dog thing". so of course everyone clowns him by posting the dog thing, which is also dumb.

then chait claims this is harassment by the online left because he's not ideologically pure enough, which is amazing and hilarious.

woke-ing class zero (s.clover), Saturday, 6 August 2016 05:57 (seven years ago) link

i mean its like in middle school when the teacher says "please stop snapping that rubber band" to a student so all the students get out rubber bands and won't stop snapping them all period and the teacher just freaks out.

except the teacher doesn't blame communists for it usually

woke-ing class zero (s.clover), Saturday, 6 August 2016 05:59 (seven years ago) link

chait is smart. people post dumb stuff on twitter sometimes. who cares.

wizzz! (amateurist), Saturday, 6 August 2016 06:26 (seven years ago) link


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