Free Speech and Creepy Liberalism

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did we rehash the part where all the people rallying around the wearetheleft letter tried to explain how an alligator eating a baby wasn't a big deal because the baby was white.

that was good

R.I.P. Haram-bae, the good posts goy (s.clover), Friday, 15 July 2016 20:47 (seven years ago) link

yeah that was a banner day on twitter dot com

goole, Friday, 15 July 2016 20:50 (seven years ago) link

wasn't that just one tweet by one person?

de l'asshole (flopson), Friday, 15 July 2016 20:50 (seven years ago) link

Was it "all the people" though?

Both sides seem to be misrepresenting each other. There seems to be a specific case against a toxic culture the bruenig team are facilitating but it was abstracted so much in the letter. I think the responses to the letter are doing something similar. It just goes around and around as people try to claim the mantle of the "true left"

Treeship, Friday, 15 July 2016 20:51 (seven years ago) link

that alligator tweet was 'my daughters vagina is this ham sandwich' level good shit

de l'asshole (flopson), Friday, 15 July 2016 20:51 (seven years ago) link

the usual suspects went all in defending the tweet

R.I.P. Haram-bae, the good posts goy (s.clover), Friday, 15 July 2016 20:51 (seven years ago) link

jesus what's become of us all? i know i'm repeating myself but fucking god the blog era was better.

goole, Friday, 15 July 2016 20:52 (seven years ago) link

lol

de l'asshole (flopson), Friday, 15 July 2016 20:52 (seven years ago) link

These ppl all just like fights. They're like alcoholic Irish grandparents.

Treeship, Friday, 15 July 2016 20:56 (seven years ago) link

i don't think any of this is the "true left". there are funny political commentators and they clown people who are really right-wing but try to claim not to be, then the latter try to get them fired or banned or blocked or etc and round and round it goes and i read mainly for the jokes.

R.I.P. Haram-bae, the good posts goy (s.clover), Friday, 15 July 2016 21:00 (seven years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/6wYCI1o.png

http://i.imgur.com/xVPGTOt.png

s-dy d-yle who absolutely knows what harassment is and opposes it in all forms and wouldn't engage in it nosiree

R.I.P. Haram-bae, the good posts goy (s.clover), Friday, 15 July 2016 21:02 (seven years ago) link

maybe one day they'll finally overthrow arthur chu and sady doyle and we'll have the socialist utopia we deserve

intheblanks, Friday, 15 July 2016 21:06 (seven years ago) link

probably being a writer who lives on twitter and looks for paid publication opportunities and thinks of your work as political in some praxis-meets-the-road sense gives you a seriously compromised sense of the currency of words

j., Friday, 15 July 2016 21:07 (seven years ago) link

who is the "true left" tho - like just those internecine trotsky + maoist groups? treesh and i were talking earlier this week about one particular drama among the far left that was completely incomprehensible on an ideological level and only made sense on an interpersonal level. but of course totally wrapped in supposed ideological language.

Mordy, Friday, 15 July 2016 21:08 (seven years ago) link

s.clover you think that's harassment?

Frederik B, Friday, 15 July 2016 21:09 (seven years ago) link

here's the link if anyone's interested:
https://rosswolfe.files.wordpress.com/2015/08/sebastian-budgen-burn-notice-against-ross-wolfe-lol.pdf

ftr i love wolfe's blog and find it v valuable even if he's a dick irl

Mordy, Friday, 15 July 2016 21:10 (seven years ago) link

s.clover you think that's harassment?

― Frederik B, Friday, July 15, 2016 5:09 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i'd like to hear why you don't

woke-ing class zero (s.clover), Friday, 15 July 2016 21:14 (seven years ago) link

cue 'punching up' mumbling

j., Friday, 15 July 2016 21:16 (seven years ago) link

Asking someone a question every five minutes on twitter?

Frederik B, Friday, 15 July 2016 21:16 (seven years ago) link

No name calling, no threats, no doxing, no nothing. Just repeating a question...

Frederik B, Friday, 15 July 2016 21:18 (seven years ago) link

Meanwhile your defending people 'doing their part' in pileups including death threats. Oooookay...

Frederik B, Friday, 15 July 2016 21:18 (seven years ago) link

lol for some reason i'm not surprised fred doesn't think incessant faux-naive loaded questions are harassment :p

Mordy, Friday, 15 July 2016 21:19 (seven years ago) link

i don't think any of this is the "true left". there are funny political commentators and they clown people who are really right-wing but try to claim not to be, then the latter try to get them fired or banned or blocked or etc and round and round it goes and i read mainly for the jokes.

― R.I.P. Haram-bae, the good posts goy (s.clover), Friday, July 15, 2016 5:00 PM (21 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otm

probably being a writer who lives on twitter and looks for paid publication opportunities and thinks of your work as political in some praxis-meets-the-road sense gives you a seriously compromised sense of the currency of words

― j., Friday, July 15, 2016 5:07 PM (13 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otm

de l'asshole (flopson), Friday, 15 July 2016 21:21 (seven years ago) link

Hey, I think Sady Doyle is annoying as well, but let's perhaps not call those questions the same thing as the abuse Bruenig and others are 'doing their part' in.

Frederik B, Friday, 15 July 2016 21:22 (seven years ago) link

These ppl all just like fights. They're like alcoholic Irish grandparents.

― Treeship, Friday, 15 July 2016 20:56 (20 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

This is nice

poor fiddy-less albion (darraghmac), Friday, 15 July 2016 21:23 (seven years ago) link

weaponizing accusations of bigotry can be abusive too or so i hear

Mordy, Friday, 15 July 2016 21:24 (seven years ago) link

These ppl all just like fights. They're like alcoholic Irish grandparents.

― Treeship

i had an alcoholic irish ancestor who died in an insane asylum and i am very offended by your comment

the event dynamics of power asynchrony (rushomancy), Friday, 15 July 2016 21:25 (seven years ago) link

Me too p much

poor fiddy-less albion (darraghmac), Friday, 15 July 2016 21:25 (seven years ago) link

memories of my irish american uncle high on meds going 80 on a residential street and doing a rollover

F♯ A♯ (∞), Friday, 15 July 2016 21:30 (seven years ago) link

it's not clear to me i have any forebears who were otherwise, rush xp

Treeship, Friday, 15 July 2016 21:30 (seven years ago) link

This is great stuff lads keep it coming

poor fiddy-less albion (darraghmac), Friday, 15 July 2016 21:31 (seven years ago) link

one thing i am grateful to the these ppl for is using humour to puncture the stifling walking-on-eggshells atmosphere on peak Social Justice internet of a couple years ago. i think the wave of SJ stuff was essentially very net good for everyone but there was some overreach and it kinda felt no fun and shrill after a certain pt

de l'asshole (flopson), Friday, 15 July 2016 21:31 (seven years ago) link

ilx has been due an american irish v. ireland irish tiff imho

Mordy, Friday, 15 July 2016 21:33 (seven years ago) link

I used to be very suspicious of St Patricks Day and other commodifications and caricatures of irish identity but I heard someone else express that view once and my Irish contrarianism kicked in. Now I'm all about it.

Treeship, Friday, 15 July 2016 21:35 (seven years ago) link

my dad is bigger than your dad hes got 8 cars and a house in ireland

F♯ A♯ (∞), Friday, 15 July 2016 21:40 (seven years ago) link

Sing it!

Frederik B, Friday, 15 July 2016 21:47 (seven years ago) link

Here comes the hotstepper

Neanderthal, Friday, 15 July 2016 21:55 (seven years ago) link

Jesus lads im being serious you need to not do that ffs

poor fiddy-less albion (darraghmac), Friday, 15 July 2016 22:06 (seven years ago) link

Jesus Lads: the original Socialist Bros

Blowout Coombes (President Keyes), Friday, 15 July 2016 23:44 (seven years ago) link

two weeks pass...

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/04/us/oberlin-professor-accused-of-anti-semitic-remarks-is-placed-on-paid-leave.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur&_r=0

A professor at Oberlin College who made a series of Facebook posts that suggested that Israeli and United States intelligence services were behind terror attacks has been placed on paid leave while the college continues to review the case, the college said Wednesday.

In a statement from Scott Wargo, the director of media relations for Oberlin, the college said that it had been “considering carefully the grave issues surrounding the anti-Semitic postings on social media by Oberlin faculty member Dr. Joy Karega.”

The statement continued: “The faculty governance process that began thereafter is ongoing, and the Oberlin administration will continue to respect this process as it plays out. Until that process is complete, Dr. Karega has been placed on paid leave and will not teach at Oberlin.”

In February, the news site The Tower published the posts made by Dr. Karega, an assistant professor who teaches rhetoric and composition, most dated back to early 2015. The private liberal arts school in Ohio at first defended its faculty members’ rights to express personal views, but in March, Clyde S. McGregor, the board chairman, wrote in a statement on behalf of the college’s board of trustees that “these grave issues must be considered expeditiously.”

That statement also described the posts Dr. Karega made as “anti-Semitic and abhorrent.” In her posts, Dr. Karega suggested that the Islamic State was funded by the C.I.A. and the Mossad organization, the Israeli intelligence service, and that Mossad was behind the Charlie Hebdo shootings in Paris.

In another post, she wrote, “it seems obvious that the same people behind the massacre in Gaza are behind the shooting down” of a Malaysia Airlines plane in 2014. An inquiry in 2015 concluded that the aircraft was likely hit by a Russian-made missile.

Mr. Wargo did not say when Dr. Karega had been placed on leave. Dr. Karega did not immediately respond to an email request for comment on Wednesday.

The president of the college, Marvin Krislov, told alumni in an email message on Wednesday that he was “committed to continuing and completing an equitable review process.”

On Facebook, Dr. Karega seemed to respond: “Equitable?” she wrote on Wednesday, before adding that she had no comment and was on vacation with her daughter.

nothing quoted here seems remotely anti-semitic but regardless, kind of a...problematic look for a liberal arts university

Weird conspiracy theories about Mossad/Zionists have a tinge of anti-Semitism to them for sure though. It's Protocols stuff. BTW she also had a lot of posts about the Rothschilds.

socka flocka-jones (man alive), Wednesday, 3 August 2016 21:19 (seven years ago) link

tbf though, the greater concern for me than anti-Semitism would just be that she sounds batshit

socka flocka-jones (man alive), Wednesday, 3 August 2016 21:20 (seven years ago) link

I have been following this story, and yeah, she is a full-on anti-Semite; we are not talking about Steven Salaita here, we're talking Jew-money-controls-the-media-and-hides-the-truth stuff.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 3 August 2016 21:41 (seven years ago) link

it's cool guys I talked to the Elders of Zion and she'll be out of a job within the week

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 3 August 2016 21:43 (seven years ago) link

sssssssssssshhhhhhhhhh

Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 3 August 2016 21:46 (seven years ago) link

The Provost of Zion

socka flocka-jones (man alive), Wednesday, 3 August 2016 21:47 (seven years ago) link

who's turn is it to bring the bagels to the next meeting?

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 3 August 2016 21:47 (seven years ago) link

"Mossad was behind the Charlie Hebdo shootings in Paris"

well since it is paid leave hopefully she comes up with better material. i'm pulling for her.

salthigh, Wednesday, 3 August 2016 21:59 (seven years ago) link

Remarkably, Mossad is both the creator of ISIS and attempting to draw European powers into a war against ISIS. It's next level black ops.

socka flocka-jones (man alive), Wednesday, 3 August 2016 22:07 (seven years ago) link

they neglected to mention her "rothschilds control the world" posts

Mordy, Wednesday, 3 August 2016 22:07 (seven years ago) link


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