HBO's adaptation of Game of Thrones - Thread 2. There are a lot of nerds.

Never really considered that ancient libraries might have a large amount of drawings in them.

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I don't think the onus is on the show to provide explanations of that kind.

I agree and I don't agree. Does the show have to explain everything and anything? No, plenty of shows, from Lost to Twin Peaks, explain little, sometimes to good effect, sometimes to ill. That is, Twin Peak's surrealism is not beholden to logic, but Lost was sort of set up as a mystery, not just as mysterious, so the lack of satisfying answers was frustrating (to great infamy). It's a delicate balance to withhold information for the sake of surprise/plot vs. expediency/convenience, especially in a world where deus ex machina is an actual thing and not just a plot contrivance (though it's sometimes that, too).

tbh one could read the impending doom much like we regard today the apocalyptic shit described in the bible, floods and plagues and people turning into salt or whatever. there are certainly some people who take it seriously and at face value but most people think of them as just allegorical fiction.

Sure, but this is a world where actual dragons roamed and rampaged not long ago - 150? - and no one is denying they ever existed. It seems strange to me where it's like "oh, yeah, fire breathing dragons were totally a thing - glad they're gone! - but long winters and snow zombies? GTFO."

idk Dragons would just be actual extinct creatures to people in this world, not forces of magic.

dragons can be regarded as the equivalent of dinosaurs, yeah.

Why wouldn't zombies be harder for them to believe?

We were talking about stuff that occurs in books being perceived as legend vs. history. Today we have thousands of history and science books that hypothesize about the distant past, and they are generally read and considered in a different context from religious tracts. We don't know how religious/faith-based the people of GoT are - regular people don't find their way into the narrative very much - but devastating fire-breathing dragons (and with it, magic? show's been less than clear) existed in their world a mere 150 years ago, not 1500 or 150 million, so you'd think it'd be harder to discount lots of MIA stuff. But who knows. Like I said, we don't get a lot of perspective outside castle and palace walls.

Anyway, show's doing what the show wants to do the way it wants to do it. I concede it's unfair to expect the full detail of history from its particular brand of fiction.

there are ways to make the ideology and uh shared cultural imagination of a place feel real and lived in w/o a lot of awkward exposition. write it, stage it and act it well enough and it works great.

Mad Max did it incredibly well; you knew exactly how the war boy society was structured and how their beliefs were determined by and supported it. the language is brief but very rich. HBO did it very well in the first season of Rome, really showed how alien and foreign the pagan past was. even something like Carlos did it really well for the communist left, another disappeared planet.

idk know if it's Martin's fault or the show adapters, but if there are a lot of questions left over, it's not your fault

Let's rehash another stupid argument and discuss how an arrow shot into the eye of a giant would be the killing blow. I don't think it could've reached far enough into the skull to damage the brain WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU RAMSAY.

I know some groused, but I actually thought the giant's death was perfectly staged! He was clearly on his last legs. Now, why he wasn't armed with a club or spear or tree ...

now would be a great time to read the books

Hey guys u know this show isnt even set on planet earth or anything for all u kno.

the planet's name is thrones, and he's the gamemaster

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https://twitter.com/virgiltexas/status/754065184596103168

Good news everyone! http://fortune.com/2016/07/18/game-of-thrones-season-shortened/

Summer instead of spring

~18 minutes of the actors signing posters at the San Diego ComicCon.

https://www.facebook.com/GameOfThrones/videos/10153871047482734/

https://youtu.be/nFdquXir9FY?t=6m37s

Obligatory "No wonder he writes so slowly" joke.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/07/30/hbo-slammed-for-sexual-violence-against-women-in-its-shows.html

Linda Holmes from NPR kicked off the questioning, asking if the network is relying on sexualized violence against women as a way to create stakes and drive the narrative. Instinctively bringing up Game of Thrones, Bloys says the violence “is not just specific to women. It’s men and women. It’s kind of indiscriminate.”
When she followed up, Bloys reiterated that he didn’t think the violence is specific to women. “Plenty of men are killed as well,” he said, setting off a #TCA16 firestorm on Twitter.

Writer Melanie McFarland then asked if that means that we’ll be seeing more of the same kind of violence, specifically rape, with male characters, Bloys joked, “We’re going to kill everybody!”

Eric Deggans at NPR took the final stab at the question, explicating the difference between violence against women and generalized violence, that there is a difference between what happens to Game of Thrones—a dismemberment, per se—and rape against women, which is a particular kind of violence that is about oppressing women.

“The violence is pretty extreme on all fronts,” he said, a fair PR-ing of a tough question but missing the point: that there’s a boiling point rising in the frustration over what has, with its gender imbalance and frequency, become a misogynistic trope on TV. And, if there isn’t, that perhaps its uniquely on television could be contributing to a desensitizing over it.

But Bloys did concede, “I take your point—so far there aren’t any male rapes.”

RIP Maester Grouty
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-38225796

Surprised the plot leaks of the next season didn't really spread. Or maybe they did on Ice & Fire places.

holy fuck can't believe i didn't realize that was grouty

Surprised the plot leaks of the next season didn't really spread. Or maybe they did on Ice & Fire places.

You mean the one about this all being a fantasy theme park populated by robots?

the plot leaks spread but all the ones I saw were just "the northern alliance is gonna look like THIS" which is boring imo. Well, and Gendry showing back up. That might be interesting. Also, Hot Pie rides a dragon.

fuck you guys

Unless the dragon is made of bread, I refuse to believe that last one.

RIP Neal Fingleton aka the Giant :((((

https://www.yahoo.com/tv/game-thrones-actor-neil-fingleton-dies-36-211400051.html

New season starts July 16th.

Trailer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxWfvtnHtS0

They're going all-in on Cersei, huh. I find her uninteresting. She hasn't changed from the first episode.

i had forgotten how popular that song was once

That's a teaser and NOT a trailer and the disappointment is double because of that music choice.

that song was unfortunate.

The actual trailers are always very vague though.

The eye zoom from Cersei to the Night King was neat but everyone has seen the Night King already so why not at least show all of him like the others? Could've had him singing along with Tim Booth too.

Maybe the Night King IS Tim Booth.

Naw it's Angelo Badalementi

really want the Night King to weigh in on the best Blur album to resolve the Syrian crisis

Ugh lol what was with the James song on the trailer!?

I've a soft spot for James but that's a fucking terrible choice of track.

Looking forward to the full trailer, soundtracked by Chumbawamba

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phmMxiFoERo

new character, sir banter of stark, will be played by rick witter.

They're going all-in on Cersei, huh. I find her uninteresting.

well, she's on the Iron Throne at the moment. Seems weird they'd forget abut her, show title and all.

i heard first ep she decides to abdicate and opens and etsy store for the jewelry she makes

i read what i thought was a fan theory thing but turned out to be the entire plot of season 7 whoops

turns out sawyer was the horse

Stannis still alive, goes back in time and fathers Jon Snow

Had to look up Sawyer, there is a Harry Sawyer but I don't think he's in the tv version.