ILX Gonna Shine in My Backdoor Someday (new post-Fahey folk for ppl posting in Takoma/Tompkins Square threads Pt II)

haha!
did we mention that three lobed and vhf are reissuing a bunch of jack rose LPs in a couple months? no extra stuff or anything, but will be good to get 'em on wax.
http://threelobed.bandcamp.com/

i'm a dad!
the "dadrock" insult is bittersweet because whatever music the ppl saying it like will eventually turn into dadrock

if you gaze long into the abyss
ry cooder also gazes into you

lol i was listenin to 'modern country' and definitely picked up some ry cooder vibes

"stop lookin at my cooder"

that woulda been a good one for the terrible (aka awesome) 70s album titles threadm ry missed the boat

loll

dude blew it by never calling an album Ham On Ry (With A Side Of Cooder)
guess it's not too late ... you can do it, Ry!!!!!

Promoting Made In Medina, made w Steve Hillege and Galactic, Rachid Taha advised, "Just call me Rai Cooder."

Imagine if he collaborated with Mayo Thompson?

new Itasca album is coming out on Paradise of Bachelors ... she put one out a couple of years ago called Unmoored By the Wind that was stunning.

first song from the new one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_-qj8HSfzE

Just saw Steve Gunn band w/ Spacin' opening, and the crowd was appropriately "dad-rockish", though still mixed with a bunch of weirdos who are long-time head kinda folks. Spacin' in particular sounded like Tom Petty jamming with Neu! Paul Sukenna is a wonderful player though, makes the whole thing tick in a way that works for me, though the dynamics sat a little too even/static to really take off at any point.

Steve and co. were truly great. Elkington is on this tour, and it is just a joy to watch he and Steve play together. Bowles and Meagher are definitely a good foil, they really got cooking over the course of the set. I gotta say that a lot of the highlights were from "Way Out Weather", but of course they have been playing those songs longer, but the new stuff definitely opened up live and it all sounded good to me. They were good the first time I saw them, but definitely even better this time. In my opinion a lot of the dual soloing and song extensions did go into noisier/more intense passages than most straight-up dad rock crews, but that impression would vary listener to listener. The only caveat was that there were WAY more jam-band kinda scene-y folks there, the type who high-five constantly during the show and despite "jamming out" with the band get wasted and talk loudly during the show as well. I mean, this is the crowd to attract if you want to actually make money, but I sure have trouble trading for my quiet room with 60 people in it scenario that often happens. Regardless, it is good that people are into this band, because all of the people in it are super nice and great musicians. Happy to think that they are maybe doing alright $$$-wise on the tour.

It cannot be said enough too: Elkington is just a gem of a player.

Elkington is the BEST. Like, my platonic ideal of a guy you'd want in your band.

shit i hope elkington is still on tour w/gunn when they open for dino jr. this fall, he had to cancel his mpls date for i think a family issue, but he's opening for dino on their tour in oct. and weirdly i've never seen dino jr so i'm pretty excited actually

liking the song "the halfwit in me" by ryley walker quite a bit

I'm listening to the whole thing right now and it's pretty great

just got the press release for the latest Imaginational Anthem (which funnily enough was compiled by my friend who lives right around the corner). stuff i've heard has been excellent.
Tompkins Square label presents the 8th volume of Imaginational Anthem, the acclaimed series focusing on acoustic guitar, particularly in the American Primitive vein.

Since 2005, the series has revived interest in old masters of the genre while also giving many folks their very first taste of artists like William Tyler, Steve Gunn, Chris Forsyth or Daniel Bachman.

Volume 8, compiled by hardcore record collectors Michael Klausman (former used LP buyer for NYC's recently shuttered Other Music) and Brooks Rice, features some of the best and most obscure private press guitar records virtually no one has heard. In fact, so-called guitar soli expert, Tompkins Square owner Josh Rosenthal, had never heard of a single artist on the comp (except for Perry Lederman, whose track was Josh's sole contribution to the collection). "Just goes to show what a bottomless pit music discovery from the past continues to be. There's just no end to all the riches from past decades."

Amidst the obscure entries are bits of rock-star lore; Joe Bethancourt was supposedly given a sitar by an admiring Jimi Hendrix, and Perry Lederman was reportedly responsible for teaching Bob Dylan how to fingerpick. But the true joy of this collection is derived from discovering incredible acoustic guitar performances completely lost to time. Until now.

https://soundcloud.com/tompkinssquare/the-secret-forces-of-nature-by-gary-salzman-68-from-ia-vol-8-the-private-press

Just got that announcement myself. Also, really nice overview of the scene as such from Jesse Jarnow today in Relix:

https://www.relix.com/articles/detail/steve_gunn_william_tyler_and_chris_forsyth_on_the_new_golden_age_of_guitar

yeahhh. think we've talked about it, but getting the jam scene onboard with this stuff is probably a good development ... at least it means that these guitarists we love will get a little more attention/cash.

It's definitely the first piece I've wanted to read in Relix in...well...forever?

there's been some good stuff in there of late -- but i think it's all been by jarnow.

anyone have a tracklisting for that new Imaginational comp?

haven't seen one yet

playlist is updated.

i had this revelation that parts of 'modern country' reminded me of like a really chill dire straits jam session and it turns out you guys mentioned that months ago

is knopfler rated as a guitarist? like by the true heads itt

He knows all the chords, I can tell you that much

Ha, record store owner looked unpleasantly surprised when I said parts of "The Great Unwind" specifically reminded me of Dire Straits

I have never heard anyone cite Knopfler as a reference from the current crop of players, and I think for the most part they cop to their influences pretty honestly. I doubt anyone is dismissive of him as a player, but yeah, never seen him come up directly. Gonna read that Jarnow piece right now. Judging by the recent Gunn show I saw, it does seem like another level of attention really may be just around the corner for some of these bands. Will be interesting to see if they go "full Bonnaroo" or just stay at "opening for Wilco" status.

Pretty good piece by Jarnow. A decent "state of the union" so to speak. I still think "country kraut" is the best term hah hah.

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Woodsist Fest Big Sur announces final lineup & set times
Single day tickets are now available, only a handful left!


Woodsist Festival is back in Big Sur for it's 7th year in a row. Two days at the beautiful Loma Vista Gardens located in the heart of Big Sur along California's Highway 1.

WOODSIST FESTIVAL
Loma Vista Gardens
Big Sur, CA
Presented in association with (((folkYEAH!)))

July 26:

WOODS 7:45PM

KEVIN MORBY 6:15PM

DJ set / Dinner break

STEVE GUNN 4:30PM

MICHAEL HURLEY 3:15PM

ULTIMATE PAINTING 2:15PM

CIAN NUGENT 1PM

July 27:

WHITE FENCE 7:45PM

JONATHAN RICHMAN 6:15PM

DJ set / Dinner break

LITTLE WINGS 4:45PM

JESSICA PRATT 3:20PM

GUN OUTFIT 2:15PM

ALEX BLEEKER + FRIENDS 1PM


Location:
Loma Vista Gardens
47540 Hwy 1 Big Sur Ca 93920

A portion of all proceeds at Loma Vista Gardens to benefit The Big Sur Education Council
http://www.bigsureducationcouncil.org/

Gates at High Noon / Show 1pm-10pm
All Ages

Please help to reduce our state and county carbon footprint and always carpool to Big Sur. Woodsist wishes to keep Big Sur clean and beautiful with no waste (take out what you bring in) and less cars. Make friends and ride share to Woodsist 2016. It's more fun with friends!

RELATED LINKS:

WOODSIST http://www.woodsist.com/catalog/available/woodsist-festival-2016-big-sur-2/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjz8vVH6xVU

FOLK YEAH! http://folkyeah.com/

LOMA VISTA GARDENS http://www.lomavistainn.com/

Good times. I'll be in Monterey chilling but I'll imagine the vibes floating up the coast.

nice

Had to move Woodsist because of fire!

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A Message from Woodsist & (((folkYEAH!))):

Due to the recent wild Soberanes Fire in Big Sur we are moving this year's WOODSIST FEST to Point Reyes, CA.

The State Parks in Big Sur are closing as of today. Sadly, it will simply be unsafe for us to host the fest in Big Sur this year. Much thought went into this decision but ultimately it is the right thing to do as we send our collective prayers to the community of Big Sur at this very difficult time. Over 20 homes and counting have been lost so far...

The new Fest site at Love Field in Point Reyes will be wonderful and ALL attendees are now able to camp on site as part of their ticket purchase. Yes, that is right...on- site camping is now included with your ticket so that option is open to everyone who has a ticket.

We are so excited to save the Fest and present it to you in this new location. It is a very special spot. Our hearts and prayers remain with the community of Big Sur during this very scary time. We are working on setting up a relief fund at the new Point Reyes site for Big Sur donations.

New WOODSIST FEST Site is here:

11191 Sir Francis Drake Blvd
Point Reyes Station CA 94956
United States

Beer & Wine will be sold on site.
Food vendor TBA.
Set times and event times will remain the same:
(see prev. post for performers and times)
WOODSIST FESTIVAL
Love Field
Point Reyes, CA
Presented in association with (((folkYEAH!)))

Gates at High Noon / Show 1pm-10pm
All Ages

Please send prayers to the community of Big Sur and we will see you in Point Reyes on Tuesday & Wednesday.
Thank your for your support and understanding,
(((folkYEAH!))) & Woodsist.

PICS OF THE NEW SITE INCLUDED BELOW!

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The Guardian catching up? Rose, Bowles, Shelley, Gunn, Forsyth, (W.)Tyler, Ryley, many more:
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2016/jul/28/theres-a-hunger-for-the-next-frontier-the-new-cosmic-americana-gram-parsons

good piece (covering a lot of the same ground as that recent jesse jarnow piece). only complaint is that -- aside from coining that "cosmic american music" tag -- gram parsons seems pretty irrelevant to this scene? i love gram, but he doesn't actually seem like much of an influence to these musicians.

Yeah, I don't know why they didn't focus on Fahey, who came way before Parsons for one thing, plus of course the sonic/vibe sensibility, and not just for instrumental specialists; he may even have been an influence on early Dylan. One of those inescapable influences for many, sometimes even re anxiety of tending-to-definitive influence, like Dylan and Trane. (Ben Ratliff's The Coltrane Legacy quotes Sonny Sharrock, saying Trane had to die so cats wouldn't get so hung up on his cosmic quest. Maybe that's one reason Dylan and Fahey plugged in, to blow up their olde iconic "selves," and one reason why D. made Self-P.)
Guardian mentioned Joan Shelley, and NPR's posted her Newport set from last weekend:
http://www.npr.org/event/music/487324284/joan-shelley-live-in-concert-newport-folk-2016

good piece (covering a lot of the same ground as that recent jesse jarnow piece). only complaint is that -- aside from coining that "cosmic american music" tag -- gram parsons seems pretty irrelevant to this scene? i love gram, but he doesn't actually seem like much of an influence to these musicians.

― tylerw, Friday, July 29, 2016 11:10 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah i feel like obv gram coined a hell of a phrase with cosmic american music but the reality is that he and the burrito bros. were -- esp in hindsight -- a lot more trad than they ever were psychedlic, i mean i know their hippieness or the oddness of a narrative like $1000 wedding seemed odd to trad country but in hindsight the difference betweem them an merle haggard doesn't seem that large...and also the eagles took his shit to the bank and ended up being the template for modern "country" as it's known now

He also said, more specifically, that he was going for something like the country side of the Stones x Buck Owens and the Buckaroos, though doubt that he would mind comparisons to primo Merle. He loathed the "country rock" tag and the Eagles in particular, and I think his sensibility via songs (incl. choice of covers and singing (incl. choice of Emmylou, Burritos, Byrds and ISB; he knew he wasn't the almighty frontman) comes across as much more cosmic or anyway more evocative and sophisticated, at best (somewhat erratic/jaded/contrarian, frequently stoned, died young, blah-blah), than the Eagles at their best, although they were pretty good sometimes.

So he prob does belong in here somewhere, but Fahey seems more central. Dylan should've been in there too.

I feel like the Byrds are more crucial to this stuff than usually stated, I feel like there's a line between them and the Television elements of this "scene"

or put it this way I think McGuinn and Gene Clark and even Clarence White are more important to this stuff than Gram

This tent is getting crowded!

byrds, yeah, otm.
neil young is prob the real connector here. as with every other genre. the godfather.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-svIYcjijahE/Uz7-PGmlSgI/AAAAAAAAiOQ/DKfXdRerKXE/s1600/godfather2.jpg

Along with xpost Barbara Shelley's Newport '16 set, a couple more also somewhut relevant to this discussion:

River Whyless
http://www.npr.org/event/music/487320023/river-whyless-live-in-concert-newport-folk-2016

and Ryan Adams, in a set-down, mostly unplugged set w Infamous Stringdusters + Nicki Bluhm
http://www.npr.org/event/music/487235301/ryan-adams-live-in-concert-newport-folk-2016

They're posting these sets v. gradually---I'm watching for the ones by John Moreland and Julien Baker, who is rec to fans of early Joni and Judee, though doesn't sound that much like either in a literal sense, but got a distinctive ear as well as voice.

seeing these different linealogies being laid out is interesting, but it is weird to see a scene you love slowly turn into one you don't

I don't know, these overviews are like enjoyable slices of a "scene" that cherry-pick the parts that fit the narrative and leave out some of the more interesting aspects (i.e., no Matt Valentine (+EE of course), in either the Jarnow or Snapes piece I don't think, and he fits this narrative a lot better than some of the other folks mentioned I think, minus the attempt to raise his own profile that much). I can see how it is easy—and maybe a good time—to encapsulate it all at this very moment, as most of the folks involved are at least on record 2-3 of their current incarnations, but it is not a narrative I find that interesting despite the fact that we have kind of been hashing out a similar narrative over the last 4 years or so hah hah.

Ehhh, Jarnow mentioned Tower Recordings, which I guess suggests a whole slew of folks. My brain is mush.

seeing these different linealogies being laid out is interesting, but it is weird to see a scene you love slowly turn into one you don't

― ogmor, Sunday, July 31, 2016 12:23 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

haha i don't totally agree w/this but there is always something that's better about scenes before they become a "scene" in a way

or i guess that is to say i hope this stuff doesn't end up just codified as grateful dead-y indie rock

Three Lobed stuff up on Spotify now!

I feel like it's harder to have a 'scene' when it's like, a bunch of dudes who play guitar by themselves in their bedroom. I feel like I saw speculation that a lot of these current folks had band ambitions though and the solo guitar thing is a good way to get your foot in the door/noticed/etc