In A Similarly Silent Way

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I'm not super familiar with Music For Airports - own it, rarely listen to it - but that Psychic Temple version is VERY Silent Way. Nice.

Didn't Eno say his idea of ambient music came from listening to He Loved Him Madly from Get Up With It at semi audible volume as he lay in bed ill?
So some echoes of Miles might be likely.

Stevolende, Friday, 1 July 2016 16:43 (seven years ago) link

It’s early 1975, and Brian Eno strains to hear the recording of 18th century harp music a friend has given him.

Eno is in recovery after being hit by a car and can barely get out of bed. After putting the record on with great difficulty and lying back down, he notices the volume is too low, and that one channel on his stereo is blown.

The sheer pain of moving forces him to listen to the record at a volume that barely eclipses the background sound of the room around it.

eno talked about he loved him madly in the On Land liners:

When I was in Ghana, for instance, I took with me a stereo microphone and a cassette recorder, ostensibly to record indigenous music and speech patterns. What I sometimes found myself doing instead was sitting out on the patio in the evenings with the microphone placed to pick up the widest possible catchment of ambient sounds from all directions, and listening to the result on my headphones. The effect of this simple technological system was to cluster all the disparate sounds into one aural frame; they became music.

Listening this way, I realised I had been moving towards a music that had this feeling; as the listener, I wanted to be situated inside a large field of loosely-knit sound, rather than placed before a tightly organised monolith (or stereolith, for that matter). I wanted to open out the aural field, to put much of the sound a considerable distance from the listener (even locating some of it “out of earshot”), and to allow the sounds to live their lives separately from one another, clustering occasionally but not “musically” bound together. This gave rise to an interesting technical difficulty. Because recording studio technology and practice developed in relation to performed music, the trend of that development has been towards greater proximity, tighter and more coherent meshing of sounds with one another. Shortly after I returned from Ghana, Robert Quine gave me a copy of Miles Davis’ “He Loved Him Madly”. Teo Macero’s revolutionary production on that piece seemed to me to have the “spacious” quality I was after, and like “Amarcord”, it too became a touchstone to which I returned frequently.

tylerw, Friday, 1 July 2016 17:26 (seven years ago) link

Always thought Talk Talk's last two albums have a heavy In A Silent Way vibe.

And then there's this... incredible Finnish spiritual jazz from the early 80s.

https://soundcloud.com/arclighteditions/jone-takamaki-trio-bhupala-i-ale003

Poor.Old.Tired.Horse. (Stew), Friday, 1 July 2016 18:12 (seven years ago) link

was he talking about the fellini movie there or referencing some piece of music I'm unaware of?

akm, Friday, 1 July 2016 18:15 (seven years ago) link

yeah the fellini film
In using the term landscape I am thinking of places, times, climates and the moods that they evoke. And of expanded moments of memory too… One of the inspirations for this record was Fellini’s “Amarcord” (“I Remember”), a presumably unfaithful reconstruction of childhood moments. Watching that film, I imagined an aural counterpart to it, and that became one of the threads woven into the fabric of the music.
here's the whole essay: http://rootstrata.com/rootblog/?p=614

tylerw, Friday, 1 July 2016 18:29 (seven years ago) link

this year's "blackened cities" by melanie de biasio definitely has that sound going on.

the event dynamics of power asynchrony (rushomancy), Saturday, 2 July 2016 02:48 (seven years ago) link

This thread is livid with great recommendations - cheers for the de Biasio heads up rushomancy, great stuff.

Sunn O))) Brother Where Art Thou? (Chinaski), Saturday, 2 July 2016 08:45 (seven years ago) link

one year passes...

8 years and no mention of Les McCann's Invitation to Openness?! It kind of slips into a Silent Way parody at times but it's a lovely warm listen,

― Sunn O))) Brother Where Art Thou? (Chinaski), Friday, July 1, 2016 12:17 AM (one year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this rules

brimstead, Saturday, 21 October 2017 00:47 (six years ago) link

wendell harrison's "an evening with the devil" (1972) definitely belongs here. check the passage that kicks in around 6 minutes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTEVljdZnHY

a lot of don cherry's '70s stuff fits here, too. particularly the passage that begins about 3 minutes into "chenrezig" from the "brown rice" album:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WS8PK53DYGA

and also pretty much the entire terry riley / don cherry collaboration from 1975. cherry's horn comes in at around 3m40s and it is wonderful:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6449e2LsUI

and then also maybe some of that later bill dixon stuff where he's sort of doing this drone thing and there's a lot of reverb.

and the last track on this chico freeman record. starts around 30 minutes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0hESHyPZI0

budo jeru, Friday, 27 October 2017 04:08 (six years ago) link

several of the tracks on Big Fun remind me of IASW

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UT3qeqzejI

Brad C., Friday, 27 October 2017 12:52 (six years ago) link

Recollections (from the extended version is a reworking of Ssh/Peaceful, innit? Either way, it's a miracle.

The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Friday, 27 October 2017 13:29 (six years ago) link

i stupidly have never checked out Big Fun because I figured it'd be full of the harsh side of things, i'm one of those sad folks who can't really hang with super-out-there 70s miles

brimstead, Friday, 27 October 2017 15:41 (six years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hL_7b1sf-k

DPRK Nowitzki (lpz), Friday, 27 October 2017 16:11 (six years ago) link

i stupidly have never checked out Big Fun because I figured it'd be full of the harsh side of things, i'm one of those sad folks who can't really hang with super-out-there 70s miles

No, it's exactly the opposite, except for "Go Ahead John." The other tracks are all on the In a Silent Way/Side Two-of-A Tribute to Jack Johnson spectrum. "Ife" is practically ambient dub.

grawlix (unperson), Friday, 27 October 2017 16:46 (six years ago) link

yeah — the wild/intense stuff is maybe what's best known from Miles' 1970s, but even things like Agharta have moments that are just beautiful.

tylerw, Friday, 27 October 2017 16:49 (six years ago) link

right on! i'll check it out tonight

yeah tbh i've meant to dig into the other stuff, it just all seems so daunting and massive.

brimstead, Friday, 27 October 2017 16:58 (six years ago) link

yeah, not to say there isn't plenty of "out" playing and general freakiness, but especially in 74-75, I've found a bunch of subtler/gentler stuff creeping into the live shows.

tylerw, Friday, 27 October 2017 17:08 (six years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnnBifdSbqA

DPRK Nowitzki (lpz), Friday, 27 October 2017 17:29 (six years ago) link

^ Oof, tasty. Kind of Sextant + IASW, in 15/8/time!

This Circle feat. Verde album sounds like a meditation on IASW.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEnzGI_vXBQ

Noel Emits, Friday, 27 October 2017 17:46 (six years ago) link

three months pass...

Heard Freddie Hubbard's Red Clay for the first time last night through a friend's really nice sound system, and it was spectacular and in a similarly silent way.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dT9aGUom3Bk

... (Eazy), Tuesday, 20 February 2018 19:04 (six years ago) link

I really like the version of that song on the CTI Allstars California concert lp played by the stripped down band
Freddie Hubbard (trumpet), Stanley Turrentine (tenor saxophone), George Benson (guitar), Johnny Hammond (keyboards), Ron Carter (upright bass), Billy Cobham (drums), Airto Moreira (percussion).

Stevolende, Tuesday, 20 February 2018 20:34 (six years ago) link

Title track of Red Clay is still one of my fave CTI jams

doug watson, Tuesday, 20 February 2018 21:06 (six years ago) link

A friend gave me Red Clay on vinyl a few years back; I played it once and filed it away. I'm listening to it now via the link above and it's better than I remember. Doesn't have IASW's languid spaciness, though.

Supporters Fear Dan's Post Will Lack The Edge They Love (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 20 February 2018 21:34 (six years ago) link

that mal waldron track upthread is radical. annoying that copies of that record are so pricey (appears to be on spotify though).

tylerw, Tuesday, 20 February 2018 22:13 (six years ago) link

was gonna mention that julian priester "love,love" embedded above - what an extraordinary cut (side one esp but both are huge)

umsworth (emsworth), Wednesday, 21 February 2018 00:38 (six years ago) link

The Call by Mal Waldron is so excellent, and I think sadly it's his only material where he plays electric piano.

calzino, Wednesday, 21 February 2018 00:42 (six years ago) link

If anyone needs another hot version of Red Clay (and truthfully they're all pretty hot) - Freddie & Joe Henderson guest on Charles Earland's 'Leaving This Planet' and it rips. About a decade later there's a Hubbard LP titled Classics that has Henderson again along with Bobby Hutcherson and it's choice. Well worth seeking.

As for the thread topic I would second The Jewel In The Lotus. Just a great, great record.

Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 21 February 2018 02:57 (six years ago) link

Red Clay and Straight Life are both excellent albums; so is Stanley Turrentine's Sugar, which also has Hubbard, Benson, and Carter, plus Lonnie Liston Smith on keyboards.

grawlix (unperson), Wednesday, 21 February 2018 03:10 (six years ago) link

damn is there a CTI thread? every time I get a CTI rec it sends me down a smooth, big budget rabbit hole

Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 21 February 2018 03:12 (six years ago) link

This whole album is beautiful: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huurRUUBl7M

DPRK Nowitzki (EMEL), Wednesday, 21 February 2018 18:14 (six years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgGaxJ3glLo

DPRK Nowitzki (EMEL), Wednesday, 21 February 2018 18:16 (six years ago) link

Think Benny Maupin's "Jewel in the Lotus" is pretty reminiscent and has other Miles veterans besides himself playing on it (H. Hancock; Buster Williams; Billy Hart etc.).

ellaguru, Wednesday, 21 February 2018 21:29 (six years ago) link

that Harvest Time by Sanders upthread is spectacular

niels, Thursday, 22 February 2018 18:04 (six years ago) link

Great record, one of his best. Too bad it’s so scarce without a legit reissue.

Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 22 February 2018 20:15 (six years ago) link

So much great stuff in this thread. I'd add that many versions of "Dark Star" played by the Grateful Dead in 1973 and 74 give off strong "Shh/Peaceful" vibes with their mellow fusion-oriented improv in the mixolydian mode and Keith Godchaux on Fender Rhodes.

Prime example from 8/1/73:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QsoDMEXFXM

J. Sam, Thursday, 22 February 2018 20:38 (six years ago) link

Is there a Godwin's for Grateful Dead? :)

The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Friday, 23 February 2018 17:36 (six years ago) link

Radiohead seem to have some sounds lifted from Miles electric era particularly from In A Silent Way/Bitches Brew. E.g Trumpet line in “Bloom”, electric keyboards in “Subterranean Homesick alien”, Kinetic even samples Miles Davis iirc... they seem to like Miles Davis and Mingus a lot (but then again who doesn’t?)... can’t think of any more specific examples but there’s some textures and production choices from OKC onwards which seem to be sprinkled with influeces from Miles’ electric era.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 23 February 2018 22:31 (six years ago) link

Shuggie Otis (this was a bonus track on the Luaka Bop reissue of Inspiration Information) Freedom Flight is def in the silent way

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ws7iWxvl6sY

It's not delivery, it's Adorno! (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 23 February 2018 23:19 (six years ago) link

two months pass...

don't think this has been mentioned yet, Idris Muhammed "Peace"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ls0nFVV58Xg

mizzell, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 15:54 (five years ago) link

https://open.spotify.com/track/0yFSGJ79Id2e1EENqmVeWA
A.D. Buchanan's Armchair Gospel from Danish trumpet player Jacob Buchanan fits - featuring Jakob Bro on guitar and Marilyn Mazur (who played with Miles) on drums

such a jam

niels, Sunday, 13 May 2018 12:10 (five years ago) link

three months pass...

Another one not named: Terje Rypdal's song Ghostdancing is almost surely an homage (and has hints of Pharaoh's Dance).

Pataphysician, Tuesday, 14 August 2018 21:53 (five years ago) link

Excellent UK post-jazz band Dinosaur's latest album has some great Silent Way type moments on it. I recommend. I also recommend their more immediate previous album

https://i2.wp.com/www.birdistheworm.com/wp-content/uploads/Dinosaur-Wonder-Trail.jpg?fit=355%2C355&ssl=1

Scritti Vanilli - The Word Girl You Know It's True (dog latin), Friday, 24 August 2018 08:44 (five years ago) link

^ These ppl annoy me for A) never having heard of J Mascis and B) not being legally obliged to amend their band name.

Ward Fowler, Friday, 24 August 2018 09:07 (five years ago) link

They're very nice people though and come across very lovely on stage

Scritti Vanilli - The Word Girl You Know It's True (dog latin), Friday, 24 August 2018 09:23 (five years ago) link

^ These ppl annoy me for A) never having heard of J Mascis and B) not being legally obliged to amend their band name.

where are the former members of jefferson airplane when you need them?

canary christ (stevie), Friday, 24 August 2018 09:34 (five years ago) link

I can't tell who's joking or what but isn't that 60/70s band the reason that Dinosaur Jr had to add the "Jr"?

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 24 August 2018 12:35 (five years ago) link

oh wow never mind I looked it up so this is another new band haha I'd never seen the original 60s one and that cover could be from whenever

so they'll be Dinosaur Jr Jr

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 24 August 2018 12:38 (five years ago) link

I always take a token brit-jazz Mercury prize nom as an indelible stain on a band's character, much more than whatever the heck their bloody name is!

calzino, Friday, 24 August 2018 12:57 (five years ago) link


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