thats very untrue and hardcore fantasy ppl r the first to say it thats even how i found out knowing nothing really abt the genre myself
― lag∞n, Monday, 27 June 2016 21:46 (seven years ago) link
they are all bad because he is a child molester and that means they are all about child molestation when u rly think about it.
― sarahell, Monday, June 27, 2016 5:44 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
especially sleeper
also bananas
― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Monday, 27 June 2016 21:49 (seven years ago) link
xp - that was a particularly dull movie by a child molester. I prefer the movies of child molester Roman Polanski to those of child molester Woody Allen
― sarahell, Monday, 27 June 2016 21:49 (seven years ago) link
its true the movies of child molester Roman Polanski are superior to those of child molester Woody Allen
― lag∞n, Monday, 27 June 2016 21:50 (seven years ago) link
so glad we agree on the ranking of movies by child molesters!
do you think Sansa's gonna get together with Littlefinger and try for the Iron Throne?
― sarahell, Monday, 27 June 2016 21:52 (seven years ago) link
ya
― lag∞n, Monday, 27 June 2016 21:52 (seven years ago) link
polanski would be the superior pederast based on chinatown alone, throw repulsion in there and shit's like game over
― if young slothrop don't trust ya i'm gon' rhyme ya (slothroprhymes), Monday, 27 June 2016 21:53 (seven years ago) link
sean bean would have been better in manhattan
― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Monday, 27 June 2016 21:54 (seven years ago) link
xxp i don't think so - would kinda undo the agency she's finally developed to fall back into littlefinger's thrall
― if young slothrop don't trust ya i'm gon' rhyme ya (slothroprhymes), Monday, 27 June 2016 21:54 (seven years ago) link
and maybe they could have called it sheffield and made it there
xpost
would argue the show is hardcore fantasy with sprinkle of medieval political intrigue for flavor and not vice versa.
― ryan, Monday, 27 June 2016 21:54 (seven years ago) link
the cinema of pederast Polanski decimates that of kiddie fiddler Allen like those dragons did the Slavers' fleet
― sarahell, Monday, 27 June 2016 21:55 (seven years ago) link
if woody allen made game of thrones who would tony roberts play
― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Monday, 27 June 2016 21:57 (seven years ago) link
― ryan, Monday, June 27, 2016 5:54 PM (59 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
ppl who know seem to say that most fantasy is abt good vs evil heroes who go on quests and so forth it is literally a fantastical version of humanity while also holding extreme fascination with the transcendent power of magic and fairies it is very escapist in nature, where this show everyone is just kinda petty and hopeless and very not heroic and the magical aspects operate on the same level as the human ones it is thought to be a self aware deconstruction of the genre casting escapist fantasies in a harsh cynical light, also grimm said its based on the war of the roses, another way to think abt it is cld u easily rewrite it to leave out all the magical stuff i think u p much cld, tho it wld be less interesting because of the way it comments on the genre
― lag∞n, Monday, 27 June 2016 22:03 (seven years ago) link
kiddie raper polanski's film 'the pianist' was probably better than anything underage quasi-incest merchant woody allen has made in decades.
― nomar, Monday, 27 June 2016 22:05 (seven years ago) link
xp
fair enough! though deconstruction of genre still = genre. but yeah some of the strongest elements of it are those "critical" parts. but a lot of my favorite stuff that Martin has done here is very Arthurian and eschatological as well. It's a very interesting meld, really.
― ryan, Monday, 27 June 2016 22:06 (seven years ago) link
seems like it uses a lot of tools from the fantasy toolbox but for purposes that are pretty different from most fantasy
― call all destroyer, Monday, 27 June 2016 22:07 (seven years ago) link
idk if u deconstruct it... is it still... there, lol jk like ya obvs its fantasy but its pretty atypical, and its very political, also has a ton of action which i doesnt move me as much, also i didnt read the books which r prob more fantasy espcailly as far as the world building aspect
― lag∞n, Monday, 27 June 2016 22:09 (seven years ago) link
i did actually try to listen to the books on a drive across country and cldnt do it fwiw, so many boiled leather doublets
― lag∞n, Monday, 27 June 2016 22:10 (seven years ago) link
the stuff abt the history and culture and castles and economics and so forth was p tite but so many meals and exclaiming to wade through to get it
― lag∞n, Monday, 27 June 2016 22:11 (seven years ago) link
the big sticking point is that magic is real in this world. that's sort of the baseline criterion and it passes easily.
― ryan, Monday, 27 June 2016 22:11 (seven years ago) link
yeah a bunch about food, kinda like the movies of child molester woody allen.
― sarahell, Monday, 27 June 2016 22:12 (seven years ago) link
imagine having to eat a meal with child molester woody allen he is so gross i bet his chewing is hella loud
― lag∞n, Monday, 27 June 2016 22:13 (seven years ago) link
bet pederast Polanski chews more quietly, also his wife got stabbed while pregnant, so he wins for having a dead baby.
― sarahell, Monday, 27 June 2016 22:15 (seven years ago) link
pederast polanski is def cultured in a low key way im sure he has excellent table manners
― lag∞n, Monday, 27 June 2016 22:16 (seven years ago) link
i am sure Local Garda would want to know how Sean Bean rates among these
― sarahell, Monday, 27 June 2016 22:18 (seven years ago) link
bean has no time for eating he's in got so much
― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Monday, 27 June 2016 22:20 (seven years ago) link
Guys can you take the rape and dead child talk elsewhere please? This has no place in a thread about Game of Thrones.
― Rob Boss (latebloomer), Monday, 27 June 2016 22:22 (seven years ago) link
actually a lot of people dont realize game of thrones was initially conceived as a dramatic retelling of the manson family saga, sean bean plays manson
― lag∞n, Monday, 27 June 2016 22:24 (seven years ago) link
nuh-uh, Renly plays Manson
― sarahell, Monday, 27 June 2016 22:25 (seven years ago) link
little finger is polanski, a pile of puke on the ground is woody allen
― lag∞n, Monday, 27 June 2016 22:25 (seven years ago) link
There's all sorts of fantasy. Ice & Fire is a fairly traditional approach but unusual perhaps for a bestseller.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 27 June 2016 22:28 (seven years ago) link
the show is basically political
sorry I was away for a bit but ... no. It's true politics is about power, but that's not ALL it is; it's about systems, ideologies, policies, institutions, social organization, methods of control. And this show is very much *not* interested in those things. At best they're tangentially addressed, at worst they're entirely ignored or glossed over. It's a power struggle, yes, but that doesn't make it political any more than two apes fighting for alpha male status is political.
― Οὖτις, Monday, 27 June 2016 22:36 (seven years ago) link
many xposts
^^^much more accurate (I assume "hardcore" indicates murderboobs)
ur wrong it is about those things!
― lag∞n, Monday, 27 June 2016 22:37 (seven years ago) link
it's about systems, ideologies, policies, institutions, social organization, methods of control. And this show is very much *not* interested in those things.
you suck at watching tv
― sarahell, Monday, 27 June 2016 22:39 (seven years ago) link
also u can def have politics w/o yr dumbass laundry list, ever heard of office politics smart guy, but anyway thats just an aside GOT is def ripe institutions and ideologies and so forth
― lag∞n, Monday, 27 June 2016 22:39 (seven years ago) link
tbf he hasn't watched this show much
― jason waterfalls (gbx), Monday, 27 June 2016 22:40 (seven years ago) link
GOT is def ripe institutions and ideologies and so forth
lol Daenerys is the only character with an ideology, the rest are all guided by clan-allegiance and or personal drive to power
― Οὖτις, Monday, 27 June 2016 22:43 (seven years ago) link
ever heard of the character ned stark portrayed by the actor sean bean i think youll find if u check him out that hes pretty ideological
― lag∞n, Monday, 27 June 2016 22:45 (seven years ago) link
idk maybe try watching the show first before you make wildly embarrassing posts itt u r just making everyone feel very terrible for you
― lag∞n, Monday, 27 June 2016 22:46 (seven years ago) link
http://img.pandawhale.com/post-42314-Targaryen-sigil-meme-Game-of-T-VY0O.jpeg
― sarahell, Monday, 27 June 2016 22:47 (seven years ago) link
u r just making everyone feel very terrible for towards you
6 seasons in and no indications about how even the most basic institutions actually function - we've had a few scenes about the bank (mostly just to establish the Lannisters are in debt), a handful of scenes about the maesters (they have books! crazy), a "church" abruptly shoehorned in to provide a conflict for Cersei. Really the institution we know the most about is the Night's Watch. This show is hardly the Wire.
― Οὖτις, Monday, 27 June 2016 22:49 (seven years ago) link
[temples fingers] perfect
― lag∞n, Monday, 27 June 2016 22:49 (seven years ago) link
is there a way to hide individual topics on sna
― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Monday, 27 June 2016 22:53 (seven years ago) link
http://theblacksheeponline.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/bulshit.jpg
― nomar, Monday, 27 June 2016 22:53 (seven years ago) link
I don't intend for all this to sound mean, I like Οὖτις quite a bunch (apart from this thread and when he says RDJ is particularly notable as Iron Man and George Clooney would be an ideal Dr Strange) but I've built up these images and scenes of him turning all weird when he gets onto the topic of Game Of Thrones, inspired by his comments on it. I'll feel silly (or sillier) if I've posted about this before.
Οὖτις sits in the living room with a bunch of people, the television announces Game Of Thrones is coming on, everyone but Οὖτις leaves in a hurry as he grimly mutters "murderboobs" with a darkening expression. He watches with a wide eyed disgusted sneer that occasionally has a hint of a fascinated leering smile as he chants "murderboobs murderboobs MURDERBOOBS!" louder and louder as the show goes on. The neighbours whimper in their beds and say to each other "Its happening again! Please talk to him, I'm too frightened to... although he usually seems so nice". Οὖτις goes to bed after the show. He sleeps a few hours and then suddenly wakes with a terrifying livid grimace saying "murderboobs!" He turns on the television to see the Spartacus series. Back to chanting "murderboobs murderboobs MURDERBOOBS!" with a judgemental glare that doesn't hide his sadistic fascination.
Next week he passes a building holding a tournament of the latest Mortal Kombat game, he gets that look again, goes in, watches the game and chants "murderboobs!" until he frightens away all the players, audience and organisers.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 27 June 2016 22:56 (seven years ago) link