HBO's adaptation of Game of Thrones - Thread 2. There are a lot of nerds.

"my goal is to bone all of the kings"

where did arya get that lady's face and how did it make her a foot taller

also show is still best described as expensively gratuitous ie tons of money spent in the service of a ton of narratively/structurally unnecessary gore/violence/nudity it gets p tiresome

― Οὖτις, Monday, 27 June 2016 19:09

There's definitely some of that in there but that's not a good description.

where did arya get that lady's face and how did it make her a foot taller

http://cdn.hoboken411.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Jon-Lovitz-I-am-a-thespian-merely-acting.jpg

jon: "just wish our old friend wall could talk, some of the stories he'd tell!!"

wall: "THE KING IN THE NORTH"

laughter.

― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Monday, 27 June 2016 18:25

Then the wall goes "Scoobydoobydooooooooo!"

Episode ends.

There's definitely some of that in there but that's not a good description.

I know you guys are all into your maps and plotholes and shit but really this show exists entirely for one thing: money shots involving the inflicting of violence. It's about on the level of b-level gore movies in that way, it's just dressed up in ren faire finery and cgi

(I say this as a fan of b-level gore movies btw)

"That kid took King's Landing too fucking literal." - from a Reddit thread, made me lol

Any predictions for next season? Lannister-saga wraps up in four episodes (Jamie kills Cersei, fights for Dany, who is crowned)? Strange alliance between the Brotherhood, White Walkers and the House of Black and White? Everybody is dying until Samwell saves the day? The next season is the last one, right

are there not two more seasons?

no to literally all of that

Just all an excuse for violence? That doesn't sound like this show.

my prediction for next season is a single 24 hour event with bloody corpses being beaten over and over by mallets while we are all clockwork oranged to the screen, as shakey floats above weeping for us

that's not how money shots work

I'm laughin not cryin

gore starved GoT-watching idiots are released into a lightless pit to gnaw insatiably on flesh and only shakey can see that they are really eating themselves. from his seat in the heavens he swings the light of star upon them so they may see the truth and be freed

Many xps

Yeah, music was great although I was half expecting Simon Bates to start doing a voice over

that star? Sean Bean

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this show exists entirely for one thing: money shots involving the inflicting of violence

pretty sure most of my coworkers who follow this show and enjoy it immensely, and my wife, would thoroughly disagree, because they always find this aspect of the show to be the hardest to watch.

I know you guys are all into your maps and plotholes and shit but really this show exists entirely for one thing: money shots involving the inflicting of violence. It's about on the level of b-level gore movies in that way, it's just dressed up in ren faire finery and cgi

― Οὖτις, Monday, June 27, 2016 3:47 PM (21 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

wake up sheeple

I mean that you analogize it to splatter films and then parenthetically admit to being a fan of splatter films - this doesn't immediately make you realize you might be projecting just a bit?

Meet the new Lord Commander of the Nights Watch: Jaime Lannister!

Frederik I can't believe you didn't bring up the best cameo of the season, native son Frank Hvam as the Citadel's receptionist

I mean that you analogize it to splatter films and then parenthetically admit to being a fan of splatter films - this doesn't immediately make you realize you might be projecting just a bit?

I don't think projection has much to do with it - when the major plot points of a show all, over and over again, involve someone being raped/disemboweled/dismembered/whatever in gratuitous fashion it seems pretty obvious that all this other architecture built into the production is being used to build up to those moments, which then shock or titillate the audience to varying degrees, and in turn lead to more such incidents... seems pretty self-evident that it's what the show is structured around/"about". Desire for power = violence, that's what it's about. Which is not particularly deep or interesting and is largely why I find the show tiresome.

at least with cheapo gore movies there's often a sense of fun and a lack of pretense, here there's none of that.

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Which is not particularly deep or interesting

i'm not particularly sure either benioff or weiss consider their show to be particularly "deep" or have ever genuinely posited it as such in public statements. it's evident they think the characters are deep, which in various instances they are, certainly not all.

I'm laughin not cryin

― Οὖτις, Monday, June 27, 2016 4:02 PM (30 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

not mad

because they always find this aspect of the show to be the hardest to watch

also generally people love watching things that are "hard to watch", dunno how you missed this

I find this show fun, gore films too seldom are, Braindead an obviously fun exception.

thread derailer poll
frederik: continuity errors
josh: unclear on human behavior
shakey: basic challops

i'm not particularly sure either benioff or weiss consider their show to be particularly "deep" or have ever genuinely posited it as such in public statements.

Fair point, maybe I shouldn't go expecting depth where there's none intended. Although portentous dramas like this tend to make gestures towards depth/seriousness (cf. white savior + slaves subplots, impending climate-related catastrophe etc.) - they have to draw the viewers in and make them feel something important is at stake, after all.

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SHAKEY U DONT UNDERSTAND THE SHOW AT ALL STOP IT

enlighten me!

First you must confess!

is it just that you guys don't want to admit that sexiness/violence/gore (and the ultimate combo: sexual violence!) aren't central to the show's appeal here idgi it's like the raison d'etre for this show. Fantasy is for ADULTS now!

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lol Evan

the things yr saying dont even make sense together first its just abt gore and boobs then next post its a portentous drama make up yr damn mind

i think cersei is a fascinating character with an almost shakespearean grandeur--this last episode is a major departure for her in that her fierce protectiveness of her children is now gone as a motivating force. i would have expected her to collapse at the death of tommen, but she doesn't, which possibly suggests that her lust for power wasn't so much about her children as it was about projecting herself through her children. i think this was implied in an earlier season when she complains that, as a woman, there was no outlet for her will to power. now all the excuses/projections are gone and we get her in her full power-mad glory. next season could be awesome.

the things yr saying dont even make sense together first its just abt gore and boobs then next post its a portentous drama make up yr damn mind

the portentous drama bits are the window dressing/the framework for the gore + boobs (mostly gore tbh)

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i would have expected her to collapse at the death of tommen, but she doesn't, which possibly suggests that her lust for power wasn't so much about her children as it was about projecting herself through her children.

well you know what i think it suggests

idk i wldve gone with "the boobs are portentous" which is why i called yr challops basic, its like the snl skit level takedown

(apologies, a lot of what i said there is basically text rather than subtext)

like idk if you've ever watched porn before but it's not ALL money shots. this show is about as smart as yr average high budget porn movie. better costumes tho.

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you are literally so awful at this im offended by the lack of effort its disrespectful

GRRM was/maybe still is making some political allegories in the books (i'm p positive that for him the meereen stuff is an iraq metaphor), and some of that carries over to the show, but i think that in making the series its adapters are most interested by the intrapersonal dynamics and epic scope and pure genre elements.

they basically ARE making a B movie with an A budget (A by TV standards at least) with (mostly) well-drawn characters and seem very happy to do so.

hey c'mon I have more important things to put my energy into than trolling a bunch of fantasy nerds

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I think by Tommen's death she had gone numb, given her loss of control over him combined with her acceptance of the witch's "prophecy". That was my read.

more important things to put my energy into than trolling a bunch of fantasy nerds

...you've spent years trolling a board for a show you literally do not watch, clearly you have the time

I think by Tommen's death she had gone numb, given her loss of control over him combined with her acceptance of the witch's "prophecy". That was my read.

oh i forgot about the prophecy. what was it again?

my first thought was that it was WAY out character for her to be like "whatever, I'm queen now" (think of how she reacted to Joffrey's death--perhaps Lena Headey's finest moment) but yeah i think the contrast is meant to be instructive...

https://www.yahoo.com/tv/game-thrones-cersei-prophecy-not-finished-yet-065111625.html

the boy king's suicide seems like a huge crisis-within-a-crisis to me; the show just kind of breezed over it to get to the coronation scene. "i'll be regent again, oh ok, i guess i'll be queen, tra la"

i was half-expecting cersei to do something active and cynically "heroic" like rushing out to lead the effort to save the city after the whole cathedral neighborhood had been incinerated. aren't these people supposed to be clever? throw in a reference to thyestes but forget about nero i guess.

there was really no sense of a public suffering a disaster. descent isn't the only aspect to legitimacy...