HBO's adaptation of Game of Thrones - Thread 2. There are a lot of nerds.

btw when Oleanna met with Ellaria & the Sand Snakes part of my brain immediately cued the "Boggis, Bunce & Bean" song from Fantastic Mr Fox
Oleanna Tyrell totally needs a cigarette holder

fun episode, quite loved the music in this one. young ned stark reminds me of someone but i can't put my finger on whom.

old ned stark

So if the Martel, Tyrell, half of Greyjoy are now under the banner of the Targaryen, and that the Riverlands are pretty much lordless, it seems to me that only Cersei is going to oppose the arrival of Dany? Also, Jamie having a little discussion about honor right after Cersei did make things a little predictable.

I should not had been surprised by arya reveal but I completely was

young ned stark reminds me of someone but i can't put my finger on whom.

― Van Horn Street, Monday, June 27, 2016 12:37 AM (17 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Neil Patrick Harris?

How do you guys keep track of everyone's name? I've been watching the show religiously and I have no idea who any of you are talking about?

Which names do you not recognize in particular?

Martel, Greyjoy, Dany, Jamie, Oleanna, Ellaria, Margery, Tommen, Lorris, Arya. Btw first this is the first time I've stopped by this thread.

So if the Martel, Tyrell, half of Greyjoy are now under the banner of the Targaryen, and that the Riverlands are pretty much lordless, it seems to me that only Cersei is going to oppose the arrival of Dany? Also, Jamie having a little discussion about honor right after Cersei did make things a little predictable.

― Van Horn Street, Monday, June 27, 2016 12:43 AM (29 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Seriously. Tyrell was the only alliance the Lannister army had. So what, it's now the captured Tully, leaderless Frey & Lannister armies vs. Dany's giant army? Cersei therefore has no actual power so I'm not anticipating any challenge for Dany on that front. I wonder how they'll fabricate one somehow.

Also, why did they lure Pycelle away to get stabbed by children ("little birds")? Would he not have attended the trial and gotten blow up with the rest of them?

You've been watching the show religiously and you don't know who Jaime, Dany, Tommen, Margery or Arya are? I just can't figure out how this would be possible...

I'm sure I do, but seeing the names spelled out just seemed funny to me, like I felt lost and couldn't keep track of what name connects to which person.

Brienne and Pod did fuck all for another season. Got sent to Riverrun and did nothing. Bring on sword-or-noose already.

cosign "loved Rigg as audience surrogate telling the Snakes to fuck off"

btw Cersei was not in the line of succession at all. Tommen had no close heirs that were known about.

Dany sailing to Westeros means we're into the final third of the story, at least.

Cersei was the queen previously

in season 3 Bran told the story of "the rat cook"

The Rat Cook, a legendary figure who allegedly lived centuries ago, who killed the son of a King while they were guests at the Nightfort. He then baked the flesh of the King's son into a meat pie, and served it back to his own father, who unwittingly enjoyed it so much that he asked for a second piece. The gods were not offended by the murder (as a man has a right to vengeance), nor even by the cooking of the son into a pie, but for violating the protection of guest right, as the laws of hospitality are sacred above all others.

cersei taking out half a dozen key supporting characters in one fell swoop was splendid, plus bonus pycelle murder, plus bonus tommen suicide. damn, good job cersei.

also i just read this, i guess i'd missed that there were tyrell and martell ships in the fleet along w/the others at the end

Cersei was the queen previously

― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Sunday, June 26, 2016 11:03 PM (47 minutes ago)

that's not why ... it was covered a week or so ago ... she's actually some 3rd cousin twice removed from the Baratheon family, and the, lol, next living descendant.

this one? http://mashable.com/2016/05/03/game-thrones-heir

That article assumes they switched over to Baratheon lineage to the throne. Robert was in the throne because he had Targaryen blood, and was the next in line after discounting the Mad King's descendants.

This seems to be the succession order in the books: http://asoiaf.westeros.org/index.php?/topic/110788-line-of-succession-to-the-iron-throne/&do=findComment&comment=5826193

"Frey pies" was likely inspired by a bit in Shakespeare's Titus Andronicus where a mother eats pies secretly made of her children. That bit also inspired a great South Park episode.

nah that shit goes waaay back

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thyestes

Thrilling ep. P sure the Mountain was having his abominable undead way w the Septa, btw.

Having Varys on the boat was probably meant to show us that this was happening a couple months later
How else would all the Tyrell and Martel ships be there too

If that was what was meant, then it seems to have failed pretty significantly, since pretty much every commentary I've read seems confused by it. But mostly time and space has broken completely down in Westeros, and everyone just teleports wherever they have to go.

So if the Martel, Tyrell, half of Greyjoy are now under the banner of the Targaryen, and that the Riverlands are pretty much lordless, it seems to me that only Cersei is going to oppose the arrival of Dany? Also, Jamie having a little discussion about honor right after Cersei did make things a little predictable.

― Van Horn Street, Monday, June 27, 2016 12:43 AM (7 hours ago) Bookmark

feels like a set up to Targaryens arriving, beating the shit out of the lannisters, then the white walkers come down n everybody unites against them

daeny marrying jon snow 2 further the targaryen incest, but can jon snow father babies after being brought back from the dad??

^^ typo of the year

I think the Varys shenanigoats illustrate definitively where Westeros "really" is. It's the island from LOST.

btw Cersei was not in the line of succession at all. Tommen had no close heirs that were known about.

― remove butt (abanana), Monday, June 27, 2016 1:35 AM (7 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Cersei was the queen previously

― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Monday, June 27, 2016 2:03 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ultimately succession doesnt matter she just named herself the queen and whos gonna say anything theyre all dead lol

Xxxpost to Fred

Yeah but most of the post show commentary is by idiots

Varys is with Dany during an invasion probably required more than a week's planning, including getting Tyrell and Martel ships to the launch point--maybe they should have had "4 months later" at the bottom of the screen for dum dums

yeah actual succession was not a factor, the whole thing has been blown up...literally [/caruso]

enjoyed this episode v much, we had a whole season of "new" material and it felt like this was the first time that anything new or at least not 99% as expected happened, which was delightful

ya it was cool long live cersei

Xxxpost to Fred

Yeah but most of the post show commentary is by idiots

Varys is with Dany during an invasion probably required more than a week's planning, including getting Tyrell and Martel ships to the launch point--maybe they should have had "4 months later" at the bottom of the screen for dum dums

― Blowout Coombes (President Keyes), 27. juni 2016 15:06 (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

So, do you think every story in the next episode will take place 4 months later? Or do you think they'll be at sea for many episodes next season?

daeny marrying jon snow 2 further the targaryen incest, but can jon snow father babies after being brought back from the dad??

According to Maggy's prophecies it's also possible that Daeny marries Jaime, "taking all (Cersei) holds dear." Jaime may even end up being the "little brother" killing Cersei.

Does Daenerys stand at attention on the bridge all the way across the ocean voyage. Or were they sailing into something that the camera cut away from before we saw.
Would think there would be much better things to be doing with her time.

chronology is less of a nightmare (probably still a nightmare) if you're not assuming that we're being shown the parallel storylines simultaneously. maybe arya was with the faceless guys for like a week before taking a year to get back to the north, who knows

Also the shot of tommen surveying the burning sept, leaving the frame, then coming back and jumping was a total Wes Anderson flourish

― 龜, Monday, 27 June 2016 04:11

There was a suicide in Boardwalk Empire that was very similar.

I liked the episode but I thought the first section at King's Landing was really terrific, one of the highlights of the series. I'm a little sad about Margaery but it was an impressive way to send her off.
I was about to say that I forgive Cersei for everything but I'm fairly sure that woman is Mountain's sex toy now. I recall something about him being given women by Qyburn and Cersei. Unless he's eating them, which I'd be totally fine with.

Maybe killing Pycelle that way was just for fun and variety.

Anyone know where Bran actually is now?

Wonder where Melisandre is going and if Arya will get to her family quickly or go on her killing spree first.

yeh i figure that letting the mountain have his way with the septa is to assure us that cersei is a bad lady, just in case we didn't gather that from all that stuff she did in the past and her indiscriminate murder of countless residents of king's landing

Thrilling ep. P sure the Mountain was having his abominable undead way w the Septa, btw.

yeah that's what i thought.

Does Daenerys stand at attention on the bridge all the way across the ocean voyage. Or were they sailing into something that the camera cut away from before we saw.

this too! lol.

great to see ned stark back, looking forward to seeing how his story pans out from the tower and finding out who his new kid is.

Bran is just outside the wall

the music for the opening bombing was amazing. and the sense of fear and dread, in general. the kids killing pycell was cool too, as a sign of how horrible this new regime could be.

sansa's "explanation" to jon snow was really stupid. "sorry i didn't tell you". "you should tell me in future, i'm sure you had your reasons for doing this strange and stupid thing but what's done is done they are not important now"

would have liked some white walkers, though maybe they've exhausted all the interesting reveals about them now.

btw can a mod fix the typo in the thread title

Does Daenerys stand at attention on the bridge all the way across the ocean voyage. Or were they sailing into something that the camera cut away from before we saw.
Would think there would be much better things to be doing with her time.

― Stevolende, Monday, June 27, 2016 9:45 AM (42 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

They were just posing all cheesy for the sake of that epic final scene. I wouldn't read into it.

Similarly the unsullied ship had them all standing at attention. Not because it made sense but because we understand they're robotic individuals. Looked pretty stupid to me but these were minor details.

sansa's "explanation" to jon snow was really stupid. "sorry i didn't tell you". "you should tell me in future, i'm sure you had your reasons for doing this strange and stupid thing but what's done is done they are not important now"

― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Monday, June 27, 2016 10:02 AM (31 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yeah seriously. Guess they had no interesting reason beyond Sansa being flawed. "Lots of soldiers died perhaps needlessly because we didn't have critical hypothetical leverage to play up for the sake of pre-battle negotiations and stalling, but oh well just make sure you let me know these things next time k? Don't worry I'm not mad. Love you, sis. Seriously take Mom and Dad's room- it has the TV."

uh u guys see sansa and littlefinger exchanging meaningful glances in that final scene they obvs gonna conspire against jon, not telling him is obvs part of an emerging pattern of sansa going for self, lol this thread being full of complaining abt travel times and like standing on boats but u cant understand the plot

that looked more like Sansa not being satisfied with Littlefingers reaction to Jon being made king.

xpost yeah but why wouldn't he ask? i guess he is stupid.

feel like the "the king in the north" chant could have gone on a bit longer. like maybe they could have all kept chanting it and then gone outside and walked around for a while, with more people joining in, until they eventually tired themselves out.

sansa may have made a betrothal deal with littlefinger to place jon on the iron throne, leave the north for her, too? don't see her as the betraying her half-brother kind, not after all the horrible shit that's gone down past few years in their fam