Irish politics discussion thread

Corollary

Discussion and side-discussion in uk politics thread yesterday about the necessity of proper dirty left wing extremists (fagvo extreme or what-have-you) to counter ukip or the tory rump or the bnp

and (forgive me im more than unusually slow in many spheres) it struck me that we don't really acknowledge that we have these guys here, in fact they in many ways occupy that unthinking white working class rage reaction political space over here.

And if anything, theyre fuckin worse in a lot of ways. They whip up the usual damaging froth politics that block or stymie good political progress, and hey as a bonus they kill or support the killing of public servants and they enforce on behalf of a particularly powerful gang culture.

Am i overthinking it or does this explain a certain variance btwn the political cultures where the uk cru react ahah a little intemperately to suggestions that their worldview of the guaranteed progressivism of the left is a little ahah naive?

or is it more that theyre the privileged remnant of an invading culture that have the luxury of guilt and crumpets.

Cant decide. Irish answers only please.

Irish politics over the last 20 years is a mush of centrist parties tho, innit? There's never been a history of lefty parties. Ok SINN FEIN. but I'm more interested in looking at the likes of AAA/PBP/Socialist parties that have gained slightly in the last few years as they come with less baggage. Whatever you think about the water charges I think a fire needed to be lit under the arse of the Irish public and take some sort of charge after the last few years of slack-jawed shock. I'm kinda on the fence about them in general. I'm glad their a voice of dissent and the Irish Independent certainly hates them but they're hampered by a lot of nonsense, no platform finger wagging and that relentless robotic lefty jargon that looks like an undergraduate Marxist newsletter. I dunno it's a bit Rik from The Young Ones. I knew one of the AAA election candidates in college. He was a bit of a sap truth be told. Anyway How do you think they stymie good political progress? He'll I'm not even sure what "good political progress" is these days

There'll be havoc now lads

mike that was a good answer i never spotted. maybe ill even respond one day hey

gombeen men at it again?

youll have to be more specific tbh

Time to bring in Robo-Garda

NED-209

nice

t k whitaker has died. giant.

will history be kind tho

i mean compared to haughey, bertie, trump

where is enda

Enda An Era

too close to endevalera

such a long reign, but a strangely muted one. took a gigantic recession and near-bankruptcy to get the electorate to actually vote fg into power and even then always the sense they were just keeping it warm for ff to return. don't think for a second varadkar or coveney will be taoiseach after an election.

not that i can measure the waters partic well from over here, but i doubt much has changed.

gombeen man

9 o'clock news' Greatest Hits of Enda package was nauseating preceded by a bunch of Fine Gael TDs I've never seen before speaking a load of shite

history will be kind, varadkar will be taoiseach

wonder if brutons name will come up at all

Varadkar unleashing his inner Tebbit and then retracting his statement moments after

Gwan?

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/leo-varadkar-s-welfare-cheats-advertisements-a-hate-campaign-1.3083638

Did James Reilly really come out and say "Simon knows what it's like to have a wife and kids"?

Cunt/s

So you have a gay PM!

Does this mean your food is gonna get better?

Gay Indian so def

What's the story with this Shane Ross character, does the upper class English twit act sit well with Irish voters?

South Dublin.

Nuff said.

Referenda Kenny

Overclever from everyone this

I've now read the email and the fuss over it is a real puzzler, particularly as it's very unclear what either SF or FF think they stand to gain here

FG have no real political alternative here, but tbh imo they also would have looked at this and genuinely thought eh there's no case here (whatever about noting existence of the mail when the question first arose last week but again...this is a pretty believable piece of correspondence to have either forgotten or not thought relevant....certainly it's not the smoking gun that it's been pimped up to be)

So

Kneejerk reaction is that it is correct and fair to say rural ireland has been weighed up and reckoned not to be worth bothering with.

Possible that the govt will argue that the regional cities will provide the jobs and facilities and paddy can commute like George has to in Dublin

But idk. Theyre not gonna sell it imo so they've obviously decided FF can have the country.

get out of the road you cunts

Based on the reaction I’m seeing to Peter Casey’s comments, our own particular brand of racism is alive and well

ive been paying zero attention tbh but i just googled this guys comments and now i hate the cunt

isnt there like 3 dragons den presenters in the race or something. MDH in a landslide anyway i reckon

It’s always a shitshow, people who will otherwise think of themselves as progressive are always hideous. And as for those that don’t...

We’re still going to elect Miggeldy though.

blissfully away but i saw polls placing mdh at 66%

which again begs the q why the media are encouraged to give equal consideration to each other moron

I mean it’s the first second term presidential election since 1966, they have to wring any interest from it somehow. Still devastated we didn’t get the McCann/Blair truther instead of one of the dragons.

POLL: Irish Times/Ipsos MRBI #aras18
(October 10-12, MoE 2.8%)

Higgins 66
Gallagher 12
Ní Riada 11
Freeman 5
Duffy 4
Casey 2

— Gavan Reilly (@gavreilly) October 17, 2018

lol

Still really mad that MDH’s Supreme ripoff merch sold out like minutes after going live.

if only we had a party that we could back with the same trust tho ey

Still devastated we didn’t get the McCann/Blair truther instead of one of the dragons.

Are you referring to Kevin Sharkey?

Nope!

Gemma O’Doherty is anti-life saving vaccines and believes Tony Blair was involved in the disappearance of Madeleine McCann... Notwithstanding the good work that she has done, do we really want a conspiracy theorist as our President? 🙄 #aras18

— Cian (@cianr94) August 19, 2018

I wouldn't rule out that theory until I've read Craig Murray's take on it.

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from his wiki: "Sharkey regularly collaborated with Irish rock band, The Boomtown Rats, and German disco group Boney M., writing lyrics and melodies for both.[10] He wrote the latter group's 1989 single Everybody Wants to Dance Like Josephine Baker.[11]"

xp when I was searching for that tweet I found that Craig Murray does have a take on it lol

https://akns-images.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/2017827/rs_600x600-170927080748-600.LarryDavid.jpg?fit=around|700:700&crop=700:700;center,top&output-quality=90

For Our Future

Idgi

implication of resemblance but idk

is this fuckdog in with a chance or is it internet idiotics

hope no gombeen man gets elected uachtarán