Star Trek: Classic or Dud?

Very weird: http://birthmoviesdeath.com/2016/06/23/your-star-trek-fan-films-are-now-legally-in-the-clear

i watched 'the thaw' the other day and that final scene really stuck with me, good stuff

i've definitely noticed the directing in voyager more than in the other series even if the writing is not as fresh

Tried watching some of the fan films/shows on Youtube - not sure what the fanboys are smoking thinking they compare to even the worst of latter-day Trek (excepting Enterprise because I never saw that).

i've definitely seen some fan films that were better than some of the worst TOS/TNG episodes. but i don't really remember them...

ahem... Unexpectedly awesome Star Trek fan productions

but my main point i guess was that the restrictions are obnoxiously onerous - forced to use official merchandise for costumes, banning of any official Trek actors, etc

Unreasonably exciting news: all the Star Trek TV shows are on Netflix UK again so I can quit with this VPN bullshit. Whoop.

Weirdly enough, I get my TNG fix from BBC America.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DdH1WjHiB0

We got 4 free passes to the latest movie, is it worth going to see? I saw the first of the new reboots recently and it wasnt so bad.

wait until it comes out before asking?

(also Simon Pegg wrote it so I'd have thought that would be enough for you)

LOL not necessarily :) Last film I saw him in absolutely woofed (tho I dont know if he wrote it)

This one looks like an extended TOS episode, which appeals to me

I have low expectations based on director and general state of franchise, but a glimmer of hope because of Pegg and his clear understanding of what makes Trek special

He was good in the first one.

(tho I dont know if he wrote it)

The only films he's co-written apart from the Edgar Wright ones are Run Fatboy Run and Paul.

Wasnt either of those. It was some dreadful aus cop/thriller.

Hot Fuzz?

Not strictly Australian, but one can see how you'd make that mistake

It was Kill me Three times. Anyway, sorry to get off topic!

http://arstechnica.com/the-multiverse/2016/08/new-trek-series-committed-to-casting-diversity-main-character-wont-be-captain/

so it's set *before* TOS and features "a male Klingon captain"?

ooookay

only a dealbreaker if he's got the forehead ridges

I'm surprised they're going pre-Enterprise. That seems like it risks repeating the failure of Enterprise again. I'd much rather something post-Voyager. There's plenty of future left to cover, no need to be doubling back all the time.

I'm just happy it won't be in the Abrams stupidverse.

Oh, I misread the article. It's not 10 years before Enterprise, it's 10 years before TOS.

I still agree w you about post-Voyager being better - don't like the prospect of more Easter Eggs in a pre-TOS show (ooh there's Sarek or T'Pol or Mudd or whoever)

10 years pre-TOS probably means Battlestar: Garth of Izar

TNG-era Trek is the real Trek to me, but still, shit, this is Trek on TV (or thereabouts) and not in the Abramsverse and that is totally excites

It'd be funny if they make the sets, special effects, makeup, etc really cheesy since it's pre-TOS.

It should be in black and white

yeah i'm surprised at their insistence at relating everything new they make these days to TOS when TNG might be more definitive for most of the audience

damn old-timers

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i certainly will, gotta offset the TOS-only voters

"yeah i'm surprised at their insistence at relating everything new they make these days to TOS when TNG might be more definitive for most of the audience"

exactly, plus, it's not like we're likely to get any more TNG movies so why not give that cast a chance to do a cameo or two again?

data lives!
http://i.imgur.com/9wK6hrG.png

Isn't this a different story every season? Maybe season 2 will be Old Worf or something.

There's a lot to like about that different story every season idea. Except that season one of TNG, VOY, DS9 and ENT all kind of sucked...

http://arstechnica.com/staff/2016/08/why-does-the-star-trek-franchise-keep-returning-to-its-origins/

tl,dr the short answer is because the original series is iconic, popular, and highly valuable piece of intel prop

like more valuable, recognizable, famous w broader appeal than any other ST property

TNG had some bizarrely robust restraint in keeping the TOS nostalgia in check for a while. If it were made today, they'd be putting Kirk's brain into the main computer as some kind of AI sidekick that makes sarcastic quips at Picard while he pilots some dune buggy with his drinking buddy Scotty.

the DS9 tribbles ep is the only good TOS throwback

There are some minor good ones like that TNG episode where "time becomes a loop" when it turns out to be Captain Frasier Crane, which was a ship from the 'movie' era of the original series.

Sarek and Spock's episodes of TNG were pretty good too. I guess that isn't a throwback more than having them as guest stars.

I really don't get why they didn't go with a TNG sequel myself. Having Picard as a ambassador and some of the other cast as Star Fleet big wig guest stars could be cool if done well.

If it were made today, they'd be putting Kirk's brain into the main computer as some kind of AI sidekick that makes sarcastic quips at Picard while he pilots some dune buggy with his drinking buddy Scotty.

I remember examining a Trek novel once that sounded pretty much like this. It was the most bonkers version of Trek I could have fathomed. Luke Skywalker may have made an appearance.

This is...an odd sentence that I didn't expect Annalee to write:

This period also offers narrative comfort food for fans, reminding them of the "good old days" of the show before everybody got so uptight about the Prime Directive and started worrying about post-colonial politics on Bajor and other developing worlds.

uh...wasn't this like half the point of TNG/DS9, and what led to the quality of those shows? Figuring out ethics and morality when encountering strange new shit? And that an explicitly stated desire to return to some actiony TOS that led to Enterprise?

well put

Regardless of what this new Trek is like, I've just resigned myself that there is never going to be a more utopian scifi TV show ever again. Just the same rehashing of the ragtag bunch, on a decrepit ship, cowboying it throughout the galaxy in a dystopian universe.