so wait, the heir to the iron throne, jon stark-targaryen, is going to marry his first cousin, sansa arryn-stark-lannister-bolton, the queen of the north, in time to defend westeros from his other first cousin (aunt?), danaerys targaryen-targaryen, and her dothraki and greyjoy sidekicks . . . and cousin/wife's ex-husband, tyrion? am i getting that right?
― reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 23 June 2016 19:19 (seven years ago) link
Oh, sorry, sarahell. Maybe overly defensive (about what? a minor plot point in a tv show!? Beats arguingabout the referendum, I guess).
― inside, skeletons are always inside, that's obvious. (dowd), Thursday, 23 June 2016 19:20 (seven years ago) link
I thought LF's plan was to either marry Sansa or hand her head over to Cersei? Both plans would get him the north.
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Thursday, 23 June 2016 19:23 (seven years ago) link
sansa's actions do not match her characters motivation, which is in contradiction to everything about the show
I agree they haven't done an entirely convincing job with this but they have been setting up Sansa's distrust of Jon in nearly every scene they share this season. She has clearly been transformed by her experiences and rightly sees Jon as a Ned Stark Jr. who will stick to the old ways and get himself and everyone else killed. Her motivation was to be the one who defeated Ramsey and killed him. Jon was her tool for that job, but she needed a back-up.
― Blowout Coombes (President Keyes), Thursday, 23 June 2016 19:46 (seven years ago) link
But even if she distrusts him, for this battle their interests are identical, I think. It's not to her benefit for Jon to lose here.
― inside, skeletons are always inside, that's obvious. (dowd), Thursday, 23 June 2016 19:47 (seven years ago) link
her interest is in Jon not fucking things up by rejecting LF's help for reasons of honor.
― Blowout Coombes (President Keyes), Thursday, 23 June 2016 19:50 (seven years ago) link
Anyway, giving up here. I'm still really enjoying the show and I hope it continues. Could do with more odd couple adventuring.
― inside, skeletons are always inside, that's obvious. (dowd), Thursday, 23 June 2016 19:50 (seven years ago) link
Frederik B - do you read the books in Danish and use the subtitles?
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 23 June 2016 20:15 (seven years ago) link
Can dowd and frederik read the gizmodo piece one more time plz before repeating their bad opinions thnx
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Thursday, 23 June 2016 20:18 (seven years ago) link
Lol, the gizmodo piece is crap.
RAG, I mostly use subtitles, have read most of the book series in English. But are you fucking kidding me? Are you suggesting I can't discuss a show in English because I'm a foreigner?
― Frederik B, Thursday, 23 June 2016 20:24 (seven years ago) link
have you guys figured out if this show is any good or not yet
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 23 June 2016 20:40 (seven years ago) link
we figured out it was for nerds
― Blowout Coombes (President Keyes), Thursday, 23 June 2016 20:48 (seven years ago) link
I think the verdict is the show was good until Littlefinger's army came from the wrong direction. That was its shark jump.
― Blowout Coombes (President Keyes), Thursday, 23 June 2016 20:49 (seven years ago) link
who knew Sean Bean could play a shark so convincingly
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 23 June 2016 20:51 (seven years ago) link
There's just no plausible explanation worth listening to! However, there are many plausible explanations.
― Evan, Thursday, 23 June 2016 20:52 (seven years ago) link
mine are always the best but I get there too soon and then my excellent ideas get buried in the now showing X of N messages bar
― El Tomboto, Thursday, 23 June 2016 21:08 (seven years ago) link
lf would never do such a thing.
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Thursday, 23 June 2016 21:14 (seven years ago) link
― Frederik B, Thursday, 23 June 2016 21:24 I'd never do that. I'm not making plot arguments (I haven't discussed Sansa's choice), I wasn't questioning your ability to comprehend, I was just curious since you do a lot of reading and watching of things I'd presume are only available in English. I was just surprised that you might read it in Danish.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 23 June 2016 21:21 (seven years ago) link
Just imo, you can't discuss the show bc you're a foreigner
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Thursday, 23 June 2016 21:28 (seven years ago) link
I heard the books are best read in their original English, then translated to Danish, then back to English. That's what they're basing the teleplays on.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 24 June 2016 03:07 (seven years ago) link
Nitpick champion right here: http://imgur.com/a/1iOMi
― Evan, Sunday, 26 June 2016 23:20 (seven years ago) link
holy shit
― El Tomboto, Sunday, 26 June 2016 23:41 (seven years ago) link
was late medieval times a Shame or Guilt culture? we're not sure but the Byzantines knew how to armor up horses better than this
― El Tomboto, Sunday, 26 June 2016 23:42 (seven years ago) link
"These guys didnt have shields, thats a major mistake" gee thanks guy.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 27 June 2016 00:41 (seven years ago) link
I'm gonna go ahead and list my finale predictions here
1. cersei sets off the wildfire under kings landing after her trial, just in time for jaime to see it returning home from rivverrun (ie he killed his king to avoid this, only to have his sister do it 20 years later)
2. varys shows up in dorne
3. littlefinger is creepy but then sansa threatens to kill littlefinger since technically dumb jon arryn is ruler of the vale and she can have his allegiance with or without baelish
4. the brotherhood without banners, plus hound, run into brienne and podrick and they all agree to head north together and not kill each other
5. tommen dies and margaery escapes kings landing, somehow
6. sam and gilly get to the citadel
7. daenarys & co. get on some ships finally
8. davos says some cold shit to melisandre
― El Tomboto, Monday, 27 June 2016 00:45 (seven years ago) link
cosign
― jason waterfalls (gbx), Monday, 27 June 2016 00:54 (seven years ago) link
Totally not sure of my confidence level in the Tower of Joy greenseer revelation with Bran though. That seems like something they'll save for next season, to me. So I guess:
9. Bran does not greensee Jon's provenance at the Tower of Joy
― El Tomboto, Monday, 27 June 2016 00:57 (seven years ago) link
Yeah I have a sneaking feeling bran may not appear in this last ep at all.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 27 June 2016 00:59 (seven years ago) link
wasn't he in the preview?
― Van Horn Street, Monday, 27 June 2016 01:01 (seven years ago) link
oh shit this is 90min long
― jason waterfalls (gbx), Monday, 27 June 2016 01:04 (seven years ago) link
i'm down for a full 90 minutes Dorne episode that makes sure we never have to go back there again
― Van Horn Street, Monday, 27 June 2016 01:07 (seven years ago) link
Whup, I better duck out of this thread til tomorrow. Cya on the flip.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 27 June 2016 01:23 (seven years ago) link
FUCK YEAH
― El Tomboto, Monday, 27 June 2016 01:58 (seven years ago) link
literally just cheered in my living room
― jason waterfalls (gbx), Monday, 27 June 2016 02:04 (seven years ago) link
Dope
― Blowout Coombes (President Keyes), Monday, 27 June 2016 02:14 (seven years ago) link
1 - yup2 - yup3 - kinda4 - not even, not at all5 - half6 - easy pickins, frankly7 - see 68 - yes indeed9 - oh whatever
― El Tomboto, Monday, 27 June 2016 02:17 (seven years ago) link
this show sucks, right guys?
― El Tomboto, Monday, 27 June 2016 02:18 (seven years ago) link
good ep good show
― jason waterfalls (gbx), Monday, 27 June 2016 02:23 (seven years ago) link
awaiting nitpicking re the succession to the throne
― jason waterfalls (gbx), Monday, 27 June 2016 02:25 (seven years ago) link
LADY MOMRONT FOR PRESIDETN
She took down those northern lords hardcore, damnnnnnn
― a 47-year-old chainsaw artist from South Carolina (Phil D.), Monday, 27 June 2016 02:26 (seven years ago) link
the whole "ned starks blood runs through his veins" was a little on the nose after the reveal in the tower of joy but yeah
― jason waterfalls (gbx), Monday, 27 June 2016 02:32 (seven years ago) link
neat shot pairing of cersei's red keep vista followed later by tommen's
― El Tomboto, Monday, 27 June 2016 02:35 (seven years ago) link
I liked the ned stark's blood line after the reveal. "On the nose" could be the subtitle for this whole ep and I'm fine with that
― El Tomboto, Monday, 27 June 2016 02:36 (seven years ago) link
tommens was a death foretold but I was genuinely surprised at how they got to it
― jason waterfalls (gbx), Monday, 27 June 2016 02:40 (seven years ago) link
Anybody else get a very Terry Gilliam-esque vibe from a lot of these scenes? Obviously the one when Sam applies in person for Maester University, but others too
― El Tomboto, Monday, 27 June 2016 02:41 (seven years ago) link
also let's not forget that arya didn't just kill walder frey she straight butchered his sons. damn girl
― jason waterfalls (gbx), Monday, 27 June 2016 02:42 (seven years ago) link
lady mormont, quality new character
― call all destroyer, Monday, 27 June 2016 02:43 (seven years ago) link
Am generally cool with the travelling time absurdities of the past few seasons but Varys being on the boat was a bit too much even for me.
Can't believe they've set up a situation where Littlefinger could actually get to the throne, even if it I suspect it would only be for about 7 minutes.
― Gukbe, Monday, 27 June 2016 02:45 (seven years ago) link
mostly just keeping track of how they're killing off and simplifying the cast of characters. Some very advantageous situations
― 龜, Monday, 27 June 2016 02:53 (seven years ago) link
I do agree the apparent speed of Varys' boat beggars the medieval fantasy imagination. I'm only half kidding, I would have given that a half raspberry had I already not used up all my THPPPBFFT on the "this brown-eyed baby equals Jon Snow" shot transition
― El Tomboto, Monday, 27 June 2016 02:54 (seven years ago) link