2016 NBA Finals — Warriors vs Cavaliers

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cleveland fans here especially, congrats

brimstead, Monday, 20 June 2016 19:08 (seven years ago) link

yeah this is my safe space, every time i venture over to twitter i just start to feel like my life is a failure

moistest hoist (Spottie), Monday, 20 June 2016 19:09 (seven years ago) link

http://espn.go.com/espn/feature/story/_/id/15521430/nba-finals-preview

has anyone else revisited this

volumetric god rays (DJP), Monday, 20 June 2016 19:17 (seven years ago) link

Lots of analytics there that I didn't understand when I scanned them. The 75% chance of a Warrior title vs 25% for the Cavaliers still seems like a pretty good read going into the series. But as they say, past results are not an indicator of future returns.

The Warriors were a lot more nicked up during the offs than during the regular season, so there was that, but it is probably as true to say that LeBron not only dominated the last 4 games against the dubs, but just as importantly, he dominated his teammates psychologically and willed them into playing better through the force of his need to win. We just saw what happens when that much talent is coupled with that much focused will.

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Monday, 20 June 2016 19:33 (seven years ago) link

didn't the dubs kinda choke this away? not to take anything away from king james

blazed carrot (rip van wanko), Monday, 20 June 2016 19:45 (seven years ago) link

draymond was the only one who showed up last night so yeah there was an element of that

J0rdan S., Monday, 20 June 2016 19:46 (seven years ago) link

i kinda thought he would go off like he did in the elimination games against the thunder.

also is tristan thompson really that much better of a defender than ibaka/durant

, Monday, 20 June 2016 19:48 (seven years ago) link

Lots of analytics there that I didn't understand when I scanned them. The 75% chance of a Warrior title vs 25% for the Cavaliers still seems like a pretty good read going into the series. But as they say, past results are not an indicator of future returns.

Unfortunately, this isn’t how statistics works—per-game and per-player playoff forecasts weren’t just incorrect, they were un-interpretable. In sabermetrics, when a forecast breaks it breaks in a predictable and interpretable fashion. I’m excited about basketball statistics, but we’re far away from them being more useful than summaries.

Allen (etaeoe), Monday, 20 June 2016 19:59 (seven years ago) link

(AND I PICKED THE CAVS IN 7 I AM A BASKETBALL GENIUS!)

(I also picked a Toronto and Spurs final so I am most likely not a basketball genius.)

Allen (etaeoe), Monday, 20 June 2016 20:01 (seven years ago) link

my hope is that lebron winning this title will teach us not to make sweeping assumptions about guys careers when they still have so much time left but i'm not optimistic

― J0rdan S., Monday, June 20, 2016 3:00 PM (55 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i feel the same way but i think the opposite side of this coin is true as well -- i think it's fair to say that lebron has declined a bit and his value over the course of an 82-game season is no longer the highest in the league. and his jump shot is still broken -- he was very fortunate to string together a few great shooting games when he needed to. all that being said it's also clear, as it is every year, that playoff basketball is not the same as regularl season basketball and lebron has another gear he doesn't really need to use during the season

k3vin k., Monday, 20 June 2016 20:01 (seven years ago) link

must be nice playing in the east

moistest hoist (Spottie), Monday, 20 June 2016 20:02 (seven years ago) link

my main point is that this series could very, very well have been over in 5 games -- had draymond not been suspended, say -- and the narrative would be quite different even though nothing had changed

k3vin k., Monday, 20 June 2016 20:02 (seven years ago) link

they were not that good this year and so much drama and they still never really got a scare for the #1 seed

moistest hoist (Spottie), Monday, 20 June 2016 20:03 (seven years ago) link

if only steph hadn't slipped on that puddle of sweat [crying emoji]

, Monday, 20 June 2016 20:08 (seven years ago) link

i feel the same way but i think the opposite side of this coin is true as well -- i think it's fair to say that lebron has declined a bit and his value over the course of an 82-game season is no longer the highest in the league. and his jump shot is still broken -- he was very fortunate to string together a few great shooting games when he needed to. all that being said it's also clear, as it is every year, that playoff basketball is not the same as regularl season basketball and lebron has another gear he doesn't really need to use during the season

I think you’re right intuitively, but LeBron’s playoff statistics are outrageous:

- Second in points
- First in steals
- Tenth in 3-point field goals
- First in win shares
- Fourth in blocks
- Fourth in free throws
- Second in rebounds
- Second in assists

Allen (etaeoe), Monday, 20 June 2016 20:09 (seven years ago) link

they were not that good this year and so much drama and they still never really got a scare for the #1 seed

Good point. And an under appreciated point. Hell, they had a mid-season coaching change to a new coach.

Allen (etaeoe), Monday, 20 June 2016 20:10 (seven years ago) link

my main point is that this series could very, very well have been over in 5 games -- had draymond not been suspended, say -- and the narrative would be quite different even though nothing had changed

As a Pistons fan, I say that about Sheed too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edTWKeHmAAw

Allen (etaeoe), Monday, 20 June 2016 20:11 (seven years ago) link

The Cavs are the healthiest I've ever seen. -________-

Interpretive Jigglypuffery (Leee), Monday, 20 June 2016 20:21 (seven years ago) link

haha

moistest hoist (Spottie), Monday, 20 June 2016 20:23 (seven years ago) link

LeBron on some level probably still does yearn to play with his banana boat friends.

, Monday, 20 June 2016 20:25 (seven years ago) link

cavs have slack?

Frye and Richard Jefferson livened up the team's group chat and pushed everyone to hang out together off the floor.

lag∞n, Monday, 20 June 2016 20:34 (seven years ago) link

i forgot that frye got benched the last three games lol

, Monday, 20 June 2016 20:37 (seven years ago) link

poor frye

marcos, Monday, 20 June 2016 20:39 (seven years ago) link

lol rude http://deadspin.com/warriors-fans-are-herbs-1780139242

lag∞n, Monday, 20 June 2016 20:45 (seven years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ClbCymyXEAE1qbj.jpg

lag∞n, Monday, 20 June 2016 20:56 (seven years ago) link

lol

call all destroyer, Monday, 20 June 2016 20:56 (seven years ago) link

Perhaps it takes a bit of eccentricity to be a bay area billionaire

Al Moon Faced Poon (Moodles), Monday, 20 June 2016 21:10 (seven years ago) link

https://twitter.com/benyewest_/status/744999803168264192

, Monday, 20 June 2016 21:24 (seven years ago) link

TOO SOON.

Interpretive Jigglypuffery (Leee), Monday, 20 June 2016 21:32 (seven years ago) link

omg

volumetric god rays (DJP), Monday, 20 June 2016 21:33 (seven years ago) link

lolz

ok, there's no way 800,000 people are showing up for this parade?

http://www.neosportsinsiders.com/source-cavs-championship-parade-route-info-reveled/

brownie, Monday, 20 June 2016 21:48 (seven years ago) link

an estimated 800k came out for the Kansas City Royals win so idk that might actually be an accurate assessment.

nomar, Monday, 20 June 2016 22:15 (seven years ago) link

damn

brownie, Monday, 20 June 2016 22:25 (seven years ago) link

lebron becoming a hero and steph becoming a villain was not something I foresaw in this series, I guess maybe bc I never thought cavs would win though it seemed like that transformation happened well before game 7

marcos, Monday, 20 June 2016 23:33 (seven years ago) link

people started jumping off the bandwagon last year

moistest hoist (Spottie), Monday, 20 June 2016 23:41 (seven years ago) link

I saw three Cavs fans on the streets in SF yesterday, and two of them were wearing Lebron jerseys -- one of which was the mid-2000s design! I wanted to ask the guy why he didn't burn it after the Decision.

Interpretive Jigglypuffery (Leee), Monday, 20 June 2016 23:50 (seven years ago) link

heh

lag∞n, Tuesday, 21 June 2016 00:23 (seven years ago) link

lol kind of amazing that we dumped andy onto gsw

marcos, Tuesday, 21 June 2016 00:25 (seven years ago) link

guys I had to watch the final minute of the game from the 89-89 tie like a million times today to make sure I wasn't dreaming, I know I'm a broken record but from a cle perspective it just doesn't seem real

marcos, Tuesday, 21 June 2016 00:26 (seven years ago) link

just wish andy v wore 00 to feed into the conspiracy theories and therefore the drama

because moms and because dads (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 21 June 2016 00:30 (seven years ago) link

https://www.instagram.com/p/BG5Byk7iTGF/

marcos, Tuesday, 21 June 2016 00:46 (seven years ago) link

If there's a narrative I really couldn't have foreseen in these finals, it's JR Smith becoming likeable.

socka flocka-jones (man alive), Tuesday, 21 June 2016 00:59 (seven years ago) link

Jr smith has always been likeable ive been one of his biggest fans on ilh

, Tuesday, 21 June 2016 01:01 (seven years ago) link

What's that Instagram post? Says its private account

moistest hoist (Spottie), Tuesday, 21 June 2016 01:11 (seven years ago) link

Jr is equally likable and hatable

moistest hoist (Spottie), Tuesday, 21 June 2016 01:12 (seven years ago) link

it's a pic of Kermit sipping tea

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Tuesday, 21 June 2016 01:12 (seven years ago) link

JR bummed me out last years finals but I've become a big fan this year

spottie this article talks about the Instagram post, lebron broke social media silence to address the haters http://www.cleveland.com/cavs/index.ssf/2016/06/lebron_james_breaks_social_med.html#incart_maj-story-1

marcos, Tuesday, 21 June 2016 01:26 (seven years ago) link

I'm long on record as a jr hater mostly because he seemed to have an extraordinarily low ball iq esp in proportion to his raw talent but he was really good for this team this year, you kind of need a dude who not only has no fear but probably doesn't even really understand what fear is to come in and just knock out threes like he did

gis for westbrook shark jump (agent hibachi), Tuesday, 21 June 2016 01:30 (seven years ago) link


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