HBO's adaptation of Game of Thrones - Thread 2. There are a lot of nerds.

ugh i cant help it: they made a point to show that the giant was not a threat anymore, not charging ramsay, not doing anything but slowly dying. this is why ramsay killing him is a "moment," it's needless. that's the whole point of that scene.

banning self from thread now.

Well the shooting the giant and not Jon thing can probably be explained by Ramsey wanting to fuck with Jon a little more before killing him. He's not the kind of guy that takes pleasure in killing someone that doesn't know he's the one doing it.

Is that a satisfying reason? I mean that's how I read it.

Yup - at least fall on the guy as you die. But that's not how drama works. Most of these problems come from an increasing desire for realism combined with the normal ideas of drama.

also doubt jon would have just let himself get shot by ramsay's arrow.......

He wasn't looking. Ryan is talking about the arrow that went through Wun Wun's eye.

So, changing topics, was he meant to be the last of the giants?

Yeah... right? Isn't he the very last one?

last one

it stretched the logic of the show for me that the giant would care enough about who owns the north to sacrifice himself for winterfell but it was a nice scene

That's a shame. It's been a while since I read the books, but was this echoed there? I'm not sure i remember the giants as individuals.

I thought the giant was about to restart (and yes, I would like to see him next episode with an eyepatch. Too bad there weren't a few more giants left.

btw sansa w some good insight into sociopathy taunting ramses that hes gonna be totally forgotten

i'm also anti-nitpicking but ramsay not taking down jon when he had the opportunity annoyed me a bit too. i figure it's okay to complain a bit when a show takes you out of things by seeming to defy its own hodge-podge logic

Haha the giant is definitely dead. Now it's just man and some dragons vs. Agent Smith the Night King and his army

That smile was maybe not good though - we don't mind people doing terrible things as long as they don't enjoy it.

ramsay shooting the giant and not jon is totally within the realm of his character imo, i mean remember he had theon and then let him escape so he could continue to fuck with him. i think he knew the game was up and just wanted to get his torture licks in while he could. idk.

i'm also anti-nitpicking but ramsay not taking down jon when he had the opportunity annoyed me a bit too. i figure it's okay to complain a bit when a show takes you out of things by seeming to defy its own hodge-podge logic

― lazy rascals, spending their substance, and more, in riotous living (Merdeyeux), Monday, June 20, 2016 1:43 PM (6 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Nobody likes my it's-no-fun-for-Ramsay-that-way explanation? Jon wouldn't have known who shot him...

xpost exactly

i think he knew the game was up and just wanted to get his torture licks in while he could. idk.

― nomar, Monday, June 20, 2016 1:44 PM (39 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah he was waiting for the formal one on one w jon! he even declared as much cmon folks!

yeh i mean i don't even necessarily disagree with these defences, it just threw me off a bit

I think it's plausible you'd still be scared the giant was going to survive.

What happens to Sansa's second name now? She a Stark again?

Ramsay has always seemed like a coward, too. Whether his sadism or his cowardice is more dominant I have no idea.
I suspect most sadism is tied to fear/cowardice.

Santa stark lannister bolton...baelish?

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She could marry Jon, I suppose.

Ramsay was definitely planning on taking Jon and torturing him, then parading him round as a trophy. I mean that's exactly what he would do.

Also I'm assuming Varys knows what's going down in the North right now, I mean no way has he allowed Lirtlefinger to just wander round unobserved. Intrigued as to what his next move is.

littlefinger shd prob have her marry lil lord fontleroy from the vale

i mean.... please remember this is a television show and not something that actually happened!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

― J0rdan S., Monday, June 20, 2016 1:14 PM (33 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah actual reality makes far less sense

― lag∞n, Monday, June 20, 2016 1:16 PM (32 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otm both but especially the second part

or this shit is just badly written

― goole, Monday, June 20, 2016 12:50 PM (54 minutes ago) Bookmark

m/l how i break it down to an extent

I was about to say the kid is Sansa's cousin but they're probably not too fussed about that in Westeros.

its simultaneously badly and amazingly written is what makes it good is how i break it down

With my 'horrible hat' on, as well, it seems lots of stuff (the iron born meeting the khaleesi, for example) seem to be happening on a different timescale to ther stuff.

ramsay shooting the giant and not jon is totally within the realm of his character imo, i mean remember he had theon and then let him escape so he could continue to fuck with him. i think he knew the game was up and just wanted to get his torture licks in while he could. idk.

maybe he missed. if you miss you are likely to hit the giant, big target.

still don't get why sean bean was fighting thormund in this though.

sean bean references have become the gaz coombes of the thrones board huh

sorry

Whats gaz coombes

What are Sean beans?

jon definitely foreshadowing sean bean quitting acting and returning to winterfell with that father in the crypt comment

The giant had been shot through eightyleven times and wasn't obviously dying, the arrow through the eye was a kill shot, not some straw that broke the camels back. And in that space the giant was obviously the greatest threat. It completely makes sense

We don't even need the logic of "he wanted to torture Jon" bc there are tons of other reasons he could have chosen to shoot the giant first (if anything him shooting Jon over the giant would be weird from a tactical POV, I think it's just that we in the audience have invested ourselves more in Jon and are used to GoT going right for the throat instead of killing off a supporting character like most shows so when they do follow a trope ppl get all "wait I thought this show didn't do any tropes!" When it's more like, we are unpredictable w our handling of tropes

Imo

looking forward to the reveal of bean's body not being there then bean entering the room behind jon snow "looking for someone?"

i mean that's how i'd write it...

I didn't really get that scene where the ewoks are celebrating their victory and transparent Sean Bean gives a thumbs up to Jon

they prob won't come up with something as good as that

xpost

"The giant had been shot through eightyleven times and wasn't obviously dying, the arrow through the eye was a kill shot, not some straw that broke the camels back. And in that space the giant was obviously the greatest threat. It completely makes sense"

So to you that whole collapsing-to-the-ground-full-of-arrows thing was just him getting into pouncing position or something?

looking forward to the reveal of bean's body not being there then bean entering the room behind jon snow "looking for someone?"

i mean that's how i'd write it...

― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Monday, June 20, 2016 2:05 PM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otm

I'm sure he was in pain and may have died ultimately but he was still clearly a threat you're being ridiculous

Seriously wtf

He's a fucking giant. You make sure he's dead

All I'm saying is that it is clear to at least the audience that the giant was as good as dead prior to that last eye shot in case you are arguing otherwise.