OK, is this the worst piece of music writing ever?

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yeah Night Time, My Time is amazing. Can't wait for the next one.

flappy bird, Sunday, 19 June 2016 03:15 (seven years ago) link

Yeah. It was annoying to me at the time that the album was overshadowed by discussions of the cover art, which in any case I thought people misinterpreted. There was a lot to say about that collection of songs: the record struck an interesting balance between engaging/foiling audience expectations and just being its own thing, which is tough thing to pull off in a highly anticipated debut album that was pushed back a bunch of times. I hope the writer of the LA weekly piece chokes on a pretzel. Not lethally, but enough to give him a good scare and maybe embarass him a little.

Treeship, Sunday, 19 June 2016 03:43 (seven years ago) link

"lost in my bedroom" is of course one of the great songs of the decade bc of the understated vocals.

Treeship, Sunday, 19 June 2016 03:55 (seven years ago) link

Fwiw the tweet is refreshingly NOT the typical non apology

Our critics are right and we were wrong. The Sky Ferreira piece was offensive and sexist. We're sorry. https://t.co/aWXMyD5mR1

Steve Gunn Mann-Dude (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 19 June 2016 13:18 (seven years ago) link

What of Mr Tavana, is he even angrier (and nerdier) now?

Larry 'Leg' Smith (Tom D.), Sunday, 19 June 2016 13:46 (seven years ago) link

the Sasha Grey piece he wrote was also crummy but I guess he successfully cloaked his gross misogyny.

maura, Sunday, 19 June 2016 13:57 (seven years ago) link

Well, she's got smaller tits than Ferreira, so maybe he wasn't as committed to the assignment.

Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Sunday, 19 June 2016 14:12 (seven years ago) link

lol boom!

Larry 'Leg' Smith (Tom D.), Sunday, 19 June 2016 14:19 (seven years ago) link

coincidentally been listening to night time, my time a lot the past couple weeks; treeship otm re "nobody asked me" but i also go kind of embarrassingly crazy for "omanko".

maura nobly didn't link the sasha grey piece but i googled it anyway, indefensibly yielding a click, then tapped out after a single paragraph of aspiring magazine prose about what she was wearing when she arrived at the restaurant.

le Histoire du Edgy Miley (difficult listening hour), Sunday, 19 June 2016 14:57 (seven years ago) link

What about how "heavy metal heart" reuses and transforms the main riff of "you're not the one," the track righy before it

Treeship, Sunday, 19 June 2016 16:04 (seven years ago) link

Tbh the kind of meta-cultural commentary that piece was going for -- trying to "place things" or make claims about what something as large as pop music "needs today," as if cultural is just a self-correcting machine that moves in an eternal circle -- is annoying in itself, apart from the egregious sexism. As a lens it's incapable of registering anything that actually makes music enjoyable or meaningful.

Treeship, Sunday, 19 June 2016 16:18 (seven years ago) link

http://decibelmagazine.com/blog/2016/6/20/does-the-underground-metal-scene-really-have-a-sjw-problem

Some really awful writing here and fuck Decibel for promoting this bullshit. Subscription cancelled.

Cosmic Slop, Monday, 20 June 2016 19:09 (seven years ago) link

"self-described" "self-proclaimed" SJWs.

evol j, Monday, 20 June 2016 19:48 (seven years ago) link

Indeed.

Cosmic Slop, Monday, 20 June 2016 20:11 (seven years ago) link

hahahahahaha

queen elseq of ærendelle (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 20 June 2016 20:24 (seven years ago) link

"Extreme metal is art. It is dangerous art and part of its very appeal is indeed that of peril and endangerment. In fact, at many shows, one might come face to face with an artist or two (or fan for that matter) who has spent significant in time in prison for offenses that range from assault to arson to murder. That is the reality of extreme metal."

http://67.media.tumblr.com/34e283f1aaf299a398db1fffa5f16c06/tumblr_nusitr4Rho1rocshso1_500.jpg

scott seward, Monday, 20 June 2016 21:16 (seven years ago) link

gut-wrenchingly impactful

le Histoire du Edgy Miley (difficult listening hour), Monday, 20 June 2016 21:21 (seven years ago) link

^^^ me if i don't drink my psyllium seed husks for a few days

le Histoire du Edgy Miley (difficult listening hour), Monday, 20 June 2016 21:22 (seven years ago) link

lol

riverine (map), Monday, 20 June 2016 21:24 (seven years ago) link

ahahahaha christ

imago, Monday, 20 June 2016 21:31 (seven years ago) link

"At an extreme metal show you may stand next to someone who has just played Fallout 4 for 23 straight hours with only minimal breaks for food or water. This is the dangerous reality of the art."

scott seward, Monday, 20 June 2016 21:34 (seven years ago) link

extreme hydration

thrusted pelvis-first back (ulysses), Monday, 20 June 2016 21:58 (seven years ago) link

I was kinda shocked to learn that this guy (who's barely capable of writing a sentence in English) actually is a professor. I assumed he made that part up, like when dudes on right-wing message boards claim to be Navy SEALs.

Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Monday, 20 June 2016 22:07 (seven years ago) link

have you read the prose of tenured faculty?

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 20 June 2016 22:08 (seven years ago) link

Nope; I barely graduated high school and only did three semesters of community college.

Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Monday, 20 June 2016 22:16 (seven years ago) link

I was kinda shocked to learn that this guy (who's barely capable of writing a sentence in English) actually is a professor.

yeah, that was my only reaction, though i was more depressed than shocked. shitty writing + shallow thinking + zero research = college professor teaching a course called "evil, death and dystopia".

oculus lump (contenderizer), Monday, 20 June 2016 22:43 (seven years ago) link

http://www.fandm.edu/jeffrey-podoshen

scott seward, Monday, 20 June 2016 22:48 (seven years ago) link

hot topic:

Podoshen, Jeffrey S. (2009), “Distressing Events and Future Purchase Decisions: Jewish Consumers and the Holocaust,” Journal of Consumer Marketing, 26 (4): 263-276.

scott seward, Monday, 20 June 2016 22:49 (seven years ago) link

dark tourism a pretty catchy term:

Podoshen, Jeffrey S. (2016), “Trajectories in Holocaust Tourism,” Journal of Heritage Tourism (in press).

Podoshen, Jeffrey S., Vivek Venkatesh, Jason Wallin, Susan Andrzejewski and Zheng Jin (2015), “Dystopian Dark Tourism: An Exploratory Examination,” Tourism Management, 51 (December), 316-328.

Podoshen, Jeffrey S., Susan Andrzejewski, Vivek Venkatesh and Jason Wallin (2015), “New Approaches to Dark Tourism Inquiry: A Response to Isaac,” Tourism Management, 51 (December), 331-334.

scott seward, Monday, 20 June 2016 22:50 (seven years ago) link

SRO:

BOS 200 - Strategies for Organizing

BOS 341 - Marketing

BOS 480 - Issues Facing Organizations in the 21st Century

Students Please Note: I use the system-generated waitlist for admission into all of my classes after intial registration has ended. I understand that waitlists for my classes are extensive and I wish I could accomodate all interested students in my classes. Unfortunately, this is not possible. Students wishing to find a space in my classes should add themselves to the waitlist in Banner. Banner will automatically add students on the waitlist if/when space becomes available.

scott seward, Monday, 20 June 2016 22:51 (seven years ago) link

nothing says dangerous auth like business school

riverine (map), Monday, 20 June 2016 22:55 (seven years ago) link

This article examines materialism, conspicuous consumption, race, and hip-hop subculture. Our study used survey data from over 1,200 individuals. Results show that African Americans scored higher in materialism and conspicuous consumption compared to non-African Americans. Additionally, those who prefer hip-hop music scored higher in materialism and conspicuous consumption than those who preferred to listen to music in other genres. Implications and historical context are discussed.

sounds like high-quality scholarship i am willing to listen to whatever this guy has to say about sjws

Cant get over Decibel actually publishing that article

Cosmic Slop, Tuesday, 21 June 2016 13:45 (seven years ago) link

sky ferreira went off on the L.A. Weekly piece

http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/pop/7415477/sky-ferreira-response-la-weekly-sexist-article-madonna

nomar, Tuesday, 21 June 2016 19:13 (seven years ago) link

metalsucks went off on the decibel piece

http://www.metalsucks.net/2016/06/21/decibels-guest-column-sjws-destroying-extreme-music-disagree/

fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 21 June 2016 20:06 (seven years ago) link

Nice x2! Some decent writing came from poor writing

niels, Wednesday, 22 June 2016 19:13 (seven years ago) link

I mean the former is an aggregation of tweets

a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Wednesday, 22 June 2016 20:24 (seven years ago) link

But what tweets

niels, Wednesday, 22 June 2016 21:42 (seven years ago) link

I like how they let the dumbest person go first and let Bram bat cleanup.

Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Wednesday, 22 June 2016 23:09 (seven years ago) link

bram's batting third. nick ("Corpsegrinder is a World of Warcraft-playing dork who spends one hour a day growling songs about murder") is in the cleanup spot.

fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 22 June 2016 23:27 (seven years ago) link

(apologies, but as your fact checking cuz, i do feel kind of obligated)

fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 22 June 2016 23:28 (seven years ago) link

What's craziest about that metal SJW piece is the implication that murder and arson are normal and natural, and part of the "appeal" of extreme metal. That might be true for some people, but it doesn't exactly amount to a convincing case against social justice in metal.

jmm, Saturday, 25 June 2016 14:13 (seven years ago) link

What's craziest is no one outside of the like 100 people in metal media cares about any of this.

queen elseq of ærendelle (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 25 June 2016 14:23 (seven years ago) link

So we should only post examples of bad music writing that the general public actually cares about? Good luck.

Evan, Saturday, 25 June 2016 15:14 (seven years ago) link

Nah, piece def belonged here, I'm more talking about everyone writing responses

queen elseq of ærendelle (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 25 June 2016 15:47 (seven years ago) link

murder and arson are normal and natural

Of course, just normal and natural to the EXTREME.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 25 June 2016 15:54 (seven years ago) link

Personally, I'm waiting to hear the Obama press conference addressing this extreme metal controversy. He should invite the author and his critics out for beers.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 25 June 2016 15:55 (seven years ago) link

are there ANY music articles that dont appeal to just 100 people in the media these days?

Cosmic Slop, Saturday, 25 June 2016 16:09 (seven years ago) link

not really

if young slothrop don't trust ya i'm gon' rhyme ya (slothroprhymes), Saturday, 25 June 2016 16:19 (seven years ago) link


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