Prince RIP

challopsy!

I know, wasn't meant to be! Couldn't read past the second page of that thing tho.

it was a fun read. he only really sees the music through a production/sonic-nerdery lens though. which is cool in a way, prince is sort of underrated/overlooked for that aspect. and most of his opinions are fairly sound (OTM that the black album was better as a low quality bootleg, though it still has some of his funkiest songs, its just not a great 'album'). though how he decides that the 1999 album has 'focus' and dirty mind - unarguably his most focused album EVER - doesnt is a bit WTF.

Re chalupa: I know questlove is a great drummer because everyone says so, but never saw live footage that convinced me - open to suggestions... but then again, I never thought erykah badu or d'angelo great musicians either, and they're from a similar school so maybe a matter of taste

I like D'Angelo a lot as a musician/singer/etc, Voodoo's great, but Questlove's style distracts me from the grooves at times. Which seems like crappy drumming. I don't like the tones he seems to be into either. Also I read an interview once where he said he wanted to "overexceed expectations". Urgh.

voodoo was pretty particular though. the snares were distractingly sharp and the drumming was (apparently) deliberately metronomic. he played on mamas gun the same year and that didnt sound like that. i think hes a good drummer, he just tries too hard a lot of the time.

Kiss my ever lovin H-O-H-E-Ns
HORNS!

http://www.lovebscott.com/news/princes-vaults-of-music-may-be-released-sooner-than-you-think

Koppelman, who once handled business for Martha Stewart, said there could be a Broadway musical featuring Prince’s hits or a Cirque du Soleil show. “Prince was an icon on the level of The Beatles and Michael Jackson, and his legacy should be honored,” Koppelman said.

Surely I'm not the only one to sense a disconnect between honoring Prince's legacy and making a Broadway musical.

ugh

prince would prob have been into that idea (though prob only if he was behind it, and could make it based around all new third eye girl material)

well yeah

Strays Of The World is the tenth and final track on the second disc of Prince's 20th album Crystal Ball (his fourth using the name SymbolSmallerBlue.png). Strays Of The World was also included in the 1993 Glam Slam Ulysses stage-show, during two segments, titled "The Ship" (opening the show), and "The Homecoming".

The Crystal Ball liner notes state that it was "originally intended 4 a Broadway musical"; this most likely refers to the planned Come musical.

a come musical!

the comedy review headlines write themselves

i remember reading about this but never really investigated it at the time.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glam_Slam_Ulysses

Glam Slam Ulysses was a 1993 musical production by Prince, loosely based on Homer's Odyssey, featuring a combination of live performances and video, with thirteen previously unreleased songs.

http://variety.com/1993/legit/reviews/glam-slam-ulysses-1200432917/

“Ulysses” concerns itself with Penelope, a would-be other-world goddess, a character referred to as ‘the fan,’ both played by Prince protege Carmen Electra, and our hero, Ulysses, an unlikely dancing god played by Frank Williams.

They could make a Prince musical based on The Prince and the Pauper, with the Prince a colorful crazy genius recluse musician who dresses down and hits the clubs to see what the kids are up to and the Pauper an aspiring rapper who gets to live as Prince and use his studio. It could be set in 1991. Prince learns what it's like to struggle again and get back in touch with the kids (guided by a Greek chorus of former female proteges), the rapper pauper learns how hard it is to be rich and famous, then they get together at the end for a huge show, with Prince opening the gates to his "palace" and showing off his new skills for the club kids. It would feature all new songs, both throughout and at the final show.. Then, at the very end, with the party over and everyone gone, "Prince" sits alone and plays "Purple Rain" for an audience of no one. Or maybe just a mirror (held by Jerome?).

Anyway, it would be terrible and make millions.

id watch it.

was this posted already? (from levi seacer's facebook page, not sure when it was written)

https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/p296x100/13445388_1152766171410432_2733716669836643868_n.jpg?oh=a7902db1b13662a0a53b1a2cd2db3940&oe=57DDA508

i love that alan leeds' name is not just crossed off, but *completely* scratched out, while tony m gets to remain.

it's not at all hard to imagine prince making a b'way musical, the problem is that he'd want it to be all new music, not one of those "songbook" fiascos like mamma mia.

The concept he was working on before drifting onto the dream factory/crystal ball/SOTT project was directly inspired by west side story iirc

one of those "songbook" fiascos like mamma mia.

the film version alone of mamma mia grossed 609 million worldwide, not sure "fiasco" is the word you're looking for

something can be an aesthetic fiasco and a commercial bonanza, no?

i'll never forget being in a video store while this was playing and a woman cried out "Whose idea was THAT?"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptWuPFG7GI4

Candy Dulfer makes the list, but not Joni Mitchell or Little Richard?

When I want sax, I ask for Candy.

I saw her band Funky Stuff in about 1988, I think, at The Paradiso (or it the Melkweg?) in Amsterdam. Some other audience members told my friend that there was some rumor about a Prince connection, that he was intending to bring them out on tour as an opener or something like that. My reaction was perhaps more skeptical than it should have been.

not to downplay her talents (though yknow, she wasnt THAT great), but basically she had the look....

apparently the list is from 2000 or thereabouts and got revised later. alan leeds said not to make much of his being crossed out as no management are in there....

Nice that he changed "Sly Stone" to "Sly and the Family Stone".

Should have shouted out to Marc Bolan, but hey.

Just popping in to say I wish the skinny motherfucker with the high voice was still with us, thanks

apparently the list is from 2000 or thereabouts and got revised later.

I presumed it was made soon after Rave Un2 to the Joy Fantastic, because the list includes Eve and Gwen Stefani, both of whom appear on that album.

And there's no renato neto or John Blackwell on it

I was in Spain in ... summer 1993? Anyway, there was some ad for Candy Dulfer's album that was played on the radio, or TV, again and again. Kept hearing "Sax ... a go-go ... sax ... a go-go ..." She was great on his 2004 tour.

i had a dream last night that prince came to a party i was throwing at a cheese shop because he heard i was a fan and he brought a bunch of new music and we all had a great time but then he got offended when he overheard me not loving his acting chops and after a sleepover with everyone in the cheese store, he left in a huff and I was freaking out and apologizing but Jerome stopped me from running after him and when i was screaming WHY? WHY? Jerome said,"because you were love hating" and then i woke up. it was upsetting.

http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/6041/1281/320/cap0008.jpg

http://pitchfork.com/news/66243-unreleased-prince-music-plays-at-versace-milan-fashion-show-watch/

this isnt bad actually. prince in sort of industrial techno mode.

like, you could kind of imagine him doing a decent score with this.

Not my intention, but I understand if it's taken the wrong way.

But I was really looking forward to his Joni tribute after.... you know.

^ me too. i can't believe she outlived him

Quite an interview with Judith Hill in the NYT today. Seems she was on the plane with him when they had to emergency land, and was the one who saw him pass out suddenly.

nice to know prince was listening to betty davis.
never knew he was into photography (actually his death has shown me how little i knew about him, compared to other artists, whose non-music pursuits you know much more about)
i didnt realise he was still that close to kirk johnson either.

At this point never surprised at anything I learn about the guy.

One thing I keep thinking about is John L. Nelson. Clearly he had some of the gift his son had but it didn't seem to rise all the way to the surface. Is it just because we've never heard it, because of external forces or because, as Doug Yule said of Lou Reed, he had "an imperfect instrument"?

prince looks really like his father. not sure what you mean about not rising all the way to the surface. just seems like a joe jackson sort of thing. father who was a working musician, for a while at least, but didnt 'make it', not big anyway. not sure if john wanted prince to make it as he didnt, like what joe wanted for his sons though. ive no idea if he encouraged prince to play. from what i know, he actually stopped prince from playing the piano that was in their house. and i dont know if john was good or not (apart from him writing the bridge on computer blue).

Right, Joe Jackson or Murry Wilson even.

Maybe I meant he had some impulse to create and some amount of talent but not the ability or circumstance to develop it properly.

The Judith hill article made me think specifically for the first time about how Prince didn't just have a close call on that plane but a full blown nde

In re to the last paragraph of the piece

Speaking of which, I always feel like the appearance of the surprising/ jarring chord with the minor second (between the minor and major third) in "Sometimes It Snows In April" evokes a soul flying past as it leaves the body, or circles back to earth for one last look.

Did Prince's dad not release any recordings ?...always imagined him releasing some Private Press records in the Minneapolis locale...

I think he made tapes and would send them out to people, maybe as gifts on holidays, to some of the people he met that had been Paisley Park employees.

Really, what fraction of his talent did his dad have is what I would like to know, if that is a valid question.

https://www.discogs.com/John-L-Fathers-Song/release/5931519

"Really, what fraction of his talent did his dad have is what I would like to know"

why?

his dad played with him at some aftershows. maybe if you can find those, you might hear how good he was.

that fathers song release does not look too promising.