OK, is this the worst piece of music writing ever?

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Welcome to "Art Tavana vs. the World," a monthly column in which L.A. Weekly's angriest (and nerdiest) music critic, Art Tavana, takes on his many nemeses in an ambitious quest to boldly go where no other critic has gone before.

this is the text equivalent of the jerk-off hand motion.

a basset hound (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Friday, 17 June 2016 19:44 (seven years ago) link

a nerd edgy and ambitious enough to call robb stark a pussy

if young slothrop don't trust ya i'm gon' rhyme ya (slothroprhymes), Friday, 17 June 2016 19:44 (seven years ago) link

wow the la weekly ran something shitty, what a surprise

maura, Friday, 17 June 2016 19:52 (seven years ago) link

i guess this guy had to stay erect after writing a cover story on sasha grey

maura, Friday, 17 June 2016 19:53 (seven years ago) link

the thing is it's getting traffic and i know from experience that the paper's upper management only cares about clicks

maura, Friday, 17 June 2016 19:53 (seven years ago) link

so, you know. fuck it

maura, Friday, 17 June 2016 19:53 (seven years ago) link

Read that as:

the thing is it's getting traffic and i know from experience that the paper's upper management only cares about dicks

Larry 'Leg' Smith (Tom D.), Friday, 17 June 2016 19:54 (seven years ago) link

six of one

maura, Friday, 17 June 2016 20:02 (seven years ago) link

dickbait

fact checking cuz, Friday, 17 June 2016 20:16 (seven years ago) link

right-dick to save image

Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 17 June 2016 20:30 (seven years ago) link

the funny thing is when you realize that y'all are the only target audience for this stuff

yolo mostly (sleepingbag), Friday, 17 June 2016 20:31 (seven years ago) link

You mean, we are the dicks?

Larry 'Leg' Smith (Tom D.), Friday, 17 June 2016 20:33 (seven years ago) link

don't give them your rage-dicks!

queen elseq of ærendelle (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 17 June 2016 20:36 (seven years ago) link

this guy's article history reminds me of all the things i hate about l.a.

R.I.P. Haram-bae, the good posts goy (s.clover), Friday, 17 June 2016 20:41 (seven years ago) link

(also went to look at the independent article and looks like the editors took it down. was there a statement or something or did they just "whoops" away the thing because it was getting clowned?)

R.I.P. Haram-bae, the good posts goy (s.clover), Friday, 17 June 2016 20:46 (seven years ago) link

Even in the candid photo of her nude in the shower, soaking wet, she looks natural like a terrified young woman about to be butchered by a man wearing a mask made of skin

Wimmels, Friday, 17 June 2016 22:55 (seven years ago) link

Wait so was the guy in the Independent thing ending every other sentence with "b" because he was so street?

On this timescale, all matter is liquid. (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Friday, 17 June 2016 23:29 (seven years ago) link

pfft

LA Weekly Music ‏@LAWeeklyMusic 1h1 hour ago
Seeing feedback to the @skyferreira story & tweet. We hear you. We truly didn't mean to offend & will address further in an upcoming post.

nomar, Friday, 17 June 2016 23:40 (seven years ago) link

"like a freshly licked lollipop"

this has to be the worst five words ever written by anyone anywhere ever in human history

alpine static, Saturday, 18 June 2016 00:04 (seven years ago) link

story is still up of course

nomar, Saturday, 18 June 2016 00:05 (seven years ago) link

takes on his many nemeses in an ambitious quest to boldly go where no other critic has gone before.

We truly didn't mean to offend

does not add up.

wizzz! (amateurist), Saturday, 18 June 2016 00:50 (seven years ago) link

i must have confined myself to a weird life/internet bubble for way too long, cuz i can't imagine anyone writing or publishing such a thing. it feels decades out of time.

oculus lump (contenderizer), Saturday, 18 June 2016 02:14 (seven years ago) link

"Both Sky and Madonna have similar breasts in both cup size and ability to cause a shitstorm."

either this guy is also bad at metaphors or I just learned a lot about the sort of pornography this guy watches

a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Saturday, 18 June 2016 02:42 (seven years ago) link

i must have confined myself to a weird life/internet bubble for way too long, cuz i can't imagine anyone writing or publishing such a thing. it feels decades out of time.

― oculus lump (contenderizer), Friday, June 17, 2016 10:14 PM (29 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

exactly this

Wimmels, Saturday, 18 June 2016 02:44 (seven years ago) link

also it is indicative of 2016 that an article like this can contain both "she looks... sweet, like a freshly licked lollipop" and "I'm not trying to otherize this woman"

a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Saturday, 18 June 2016 03:08 (seven years ago) link

Nothing matters in 2016 and there will be zero consequences for anyone involved, btw

queen elseq of ærendelle (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 18 June 2016 04:03 (seven years ago) link

consequences = dude had to make his twitter private

mookieproof, Saturday, 18 June 2016 04:06 (seven years ago) link

L.A. Weekly's angriest (and nerdiest) music critic

is this not f@ntano?

dyl, Saturday, 18 June 2016 06:21 (seven years ago) link

Nothing matters in 2016 and there will be zero consequences for anyone involved, btw

― queen elseq of ærendelle (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, June 18, 2016 5:03 AM (7 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

tbomb

Oh baby, if only you knew / Gabnebb hit a hundred-and-two (stevie), Saturday, 18 June 2016 11:42 (seven years ago) link

there's an apology piece on L.A. Weekly and the comments section, though it only has half a dozen comments, somehow became a bat signal for MRAs whining about SJWs. http://www.3danvil.com/emoticons/jerkoff.gif

nomar, Sunday, 19 June 2016 00:39 (seven years ago) link

http://www.laweekly.com/music/about-that-sky-ferreira-piece-it-crossed-the-line-and-were-sorry-7043581

This comment though:

lol this "apology" is too much: within the first paragraph, they cite the one male response to a sexist, misogynist piece as "the most damning and cleverist" and they express amused shock that "even" Teen Vogue took them to task, and even Teen Vogue was right--even those silly little young women seem to have big ol' brains!

"My biggest regret, in all of this, is that WE *MAY* HAVE MADE PEOPLE *FEEL* like L.A. Weekly is a publication that doesn't take women or women's issues seriously."
So classic, so elegant. The Little Black Dress of non-apologies.

Frozen CD, Sunday, 19 June 2016 00:59 (seven years ago) link

it is depressing and sad to read the twitter replies on the L.A. Weekly Music account. somehow this piece and the backlash was picked up by the gamer gate crowd, and there are some vile opinions on there from some vile shitstains.

nomar, Sunday, 19 June 2016 01:09 (seven years ago) link

oh god m1l0 picked it up. that dude...

maura, Sunday, 19 June 2016 01:12 (seven years ago) link

Tavana's piece did cross the line. It was offensive, and on behalf of him and L.A. Weekly, I apologize for it.

I am not here to make excuses; instead, I will say that, in this line of work, we make judgment calls on what to say and how to say it all the time, and sometimes we get it wrong. This time, Tavana and I got it wrong.

struggling to see how this is a "non-apology" rather than an just an apology

soref, Sunday, 19 June 2016 01:21 (seven years ago) link

xp

soref, Sunday, 19 June 2016 01:21 (seven years ago) link

ugh xxpost

nomar, Sunday, 19 June 2016 01:58 (seven years ago) link

I will never read this terrible article but the controversy reminded me of sky ferreira. her most recent album is like a treasure trove of rad power pop

Treeship, Sunday, 19 June 2016 03:01 (seven years ago) link

"Nobody asked me if i was ok" might be my favorite. I suspect a bunch of ppl think of it as a secret personal anthem - something to listen to when you reminisce over old grudges

Treeship, Sunday, 19 June 2016 03:05 (seven years ago) link

yeah Night Time, My Time is amazing. Can't wait for the next one.

flappy bird, Sunday, 19 June 2016 03:15 (seven years ago) link

Yeah. It was annoying to me at the time that the album was overshadowed by discussions of the cover art, which in any case I thought people misinterpreted. There was a lot to say about that collection of songs: the record struck an interesting balance between engaging/foiling audience expectations and just being its own thing, which is tough thing to pull off in a highly anticipated debut album that was pushed back a bunch of times. I hope the writer of the LA weekly piece chokes on a pretzel. Not lethally, but enough to give him a good scare and maybe embarass him a little.

Treeship, Sunday, 19 June 2016 03:43 (seven years ago) link

"lost in my bedroom" is of course one of the great songs of the decade bc of the understated vocals.

Treeship, Sunday, 19 June 2016 03:55 (seven years ago) link

Fwiw the tweet is refreshingly NOT the typical non apology

Our critics are right and we were wrong. The Sky Ferreira piece was offensive and sexist. We're sorry. https://t.co/aWXMyD5mR1

Steve Gunn Mann-Dude (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 19 June 2016 13:18 (seven years ago) link

What of Mr Tavana, is he even angrier (and nerdier) now?

Larry 'Leg' Smith (Tom D.), Sunday, 19 June 2016 13:46 (seven years ago) link

the Sasha Grey piece he wrote was also crummy but I guess he successfully cloaked his gross misogyny.

maura, Sunday, 19 June 2016 13:57 (seven years ago) link

Well, she's got smaller tits than Ferreira, so maybe he wasn't as committed to the assignment.

Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Sunday, 19 June 2016 14:12 (seven years ago) link

lol boom!

Larry 'Leg' Smith (Tom D.), Sunday, 19 June 2016 14:19 (seven years ago) link

coincidentally been listening to night time, my time a lot the past couple weeks; treeship otm re "nobody asked me" but i also go kind of embarrassingly crazy for "omanko".

maura nobly didn't link the sasha grey piece but i googled it anyway, indefensibly yielding a click, then tapped out after a single paragraph of aspiring magazine prose about what she was wearing when she arrived at the restaurant.

le Histoire du Edgy Miley (difficult listening hour), Sunday, 19 June 2016 14:57 (seven years ago) link

What about how "heavy metal heart" reuses and transforms the main riff of "you're not the one," the track righy before it

Treeship, Sunday, 19 June 2016 16:04 (seven years ago) link

Tbh the kind of meta-cultural commentary that piece was going for -- trying to "place things" or make claims about what something as large as pop music "needs today," as if cultural is just a self-correcting machine that moves in an eternal circle -- is annoying in itself, apart from the egregious sexism. As a lens it's incapable of registering anything that actually makes music enjoyable or meaningful.

Treeship, Sunday, 19 June 2016 16:18 (seven years ago) link

http://decibelmagazine.com/blog/2016/6/20/does-the-underground-metal-scene-really-have-a-sjw-problem

Some really awful writing here and fuck Decibel for promoting this bullshit. Subscription cancelled.

Cosmic Slop, Monday, 20 June 2016 19:09 (seven years ago) link


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