time to merge star trek and star wars and add in ALF
― Brian Eno's Mother (Latham Green), Thursday, 16 June 2016 17:27 (seven years ago) link
https://inventorysystemsoftware.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/gene-roddenberry-george-lucas.jpg
― Foster Twelvetrees (Ward Fowler), Thursday, 16 June 2016 17:30 (seven years ago) link
Hmm, well Paramount will probably sell the Trek to Disney once they are finally able to admit to themselves the glaringly-obvious fact that they're embarrassed to own the property, and I'm pretty sure ALF is a Muppet, so I think this has legs.
― Manspread Mann (Old Lunch), Thursday, 16 June 2016 17:52 (seven years ago) link
you dont think wb would buy trek to keep the wb/disney battle going on a new front?
― we should all delete our account (Will M.), Thursday, 16 June 2016 18:03 (seven years ago) link
Interesting proposal, I look forward to the WB Trek movie where Spock drives an axe through Kirk's spinal column for no particular good reason other than that it's totally dark + extreme to the max.
― Manspread Mann (Old Lunch), Thursday, 16 June 2016 18:18 (seven years ago) link
I think they may reenvision ALF as CGI
― Brian Eno's Mother (Latham Green), Friday, 15 July 2016 16:15 (seven years ago) link
...looks like I should edit the thread title
http://tvline.com/2016/10/26/star-trek-discovery-bryan-fuller-showrunner-stepping-down/
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 26 October 2016 22:55 (seven years ago) link
Oh great another Kurtzman-Goldsman joint. Because they did such a great job with Fringe.
― Einstein, Kazanga, Sitar (abanana), Thursday, 27 October 2016 10:42 (seven years ago) link
akiva goldsman's continued success is one of life's great mysteries
― yokohama fuckdolphin (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 27 October 2016 10:58 (seven years ago) link
oh c'mon, s2-4ish of Fringe were pretty good
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, 27 October 2016 11:09 (seven years ago) link
this is weird to me. why would fuller walk away from this because he 'doesn't have time'? clearly something must have been going wrong.
― akm, Thursday, 27 October 2016 13:15 (seven years ago) link
I hear he wants to spend more time with his family.
― Wikipedia Brown and the Case of the Incomplete Filmography (Old Lunch), Thursday, 27 October 2016 13:27 (seven years ago) link
season 3 of fringe was pretty good. then kurtzman & orci demanded a dumb cliffhanger and the show never recovered.
― Einstein, Kazanga, Sitar (abanana), Thursday, 27 October 2016 13:30 (seven years ago) link
Trek has always had a mix of inspired weirdos and hacks, I feel like it benefits from that.
― Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 27 October 2016 13:33 (seven years ago) link
Fuller's working on at least two other tv series, including American Gods. If the Paramount people kept meddling and were an irritating presence, it'd be a good reason to bail.
― mh 😏, Thursday, 27 October 2016 14:00 (seven years ago) link
He's still writing/plotting at least
― Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 27 October 2016 14:39 (seven years ago) link
http://www.polygon.com/2016/12/14/13962170/star-trek-discovery-lead-walking-dead
Sonequa Martin-Green will play the lead (the XO of Discovery).
Should we change this thread title?
― a Warren Beatty film about Earth (El Tomboto), Thursday, 15 December 2016 18:08 (seven years ago) link
I'm not going to believe this show is happening until there's an actual pilot date.
― Bianca Smell BO (Leee), Thursday, 15 December 2016 20:32 (seven years ago) link
Should we change this thread title?to:Sasha Deathwatch
― Spencer Chow, Thursday, 15 December 2016 23:24 (seven years ago) link
It's funny how much she looks like a younger Angela Bassett who had been tipped to be in the series.
― Spencer Chow, Thursday, 15 December 2016 23:27 (seven years ago) link
wasn't there a rumor they were doing an anthology series with a different timeframe/cast each season? hmm.
― mh 😏, Thursday, 15 December 2016 23:48 (seven years ago) link
Well this is still taking forever. I will however happily back this:
https://tvline.com/2017/03/31/star-trek-discovery-rainn-wilson-harry-mudd-cbs-all-access/
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 31 March 2017 17:52 (seven years ago) link
lol I watched the original Mudd ep the other night w my daughter and the entire time I was distracted by the highly visible shaving line all around Carmel's neck.
― Οὖτις, Friday, 31 March 2017 17:56 (seven years ago) link
Fucking hell it's tomorrow
I have concerns but I really *want* it to be good
― Chuck_Tatum, Saturday, 23 September 2017 17:43 (six years ago) link
I guess I hadn't been paying attention but, uh, you have to pay for some CBS streaming service to watch this beyond the first episode? Really? I hope everyone enjoys the first ST series to last exactly one season.
― Señor Winces (Old Lunch), Sunday, 24 September 2017 15:02 (six years ago) link
It's on Netflix in the UK and a bunch of other countries
― Chuck_Tatum, Sunday, 24 September 2017 15:22 (six years ago) link
A few reviews have slipped through the embargo and been decent
― Chuck_Tatum, Sunday, 24 September 2017 15:23 (six years ago) link
This should be worth a flyer just for more Michelle Yeoh.
― Insane Clown Fosse (Leee), Sunday, 24 September 2017 15:27 (six years ago) link
I'm sorry, I misunderstood: CBS is only airing the first half of the two hour pilot on actual TV. Fun idea.
― Señor Winces (Old Lunch), Sunday, 24 September 2017 15:51 (six years ago) link
If they streamed it only on the CBS app but allowed digital purchases on amazon, itunes, etc. it'd make more sense. but, afaik, they are making it only available on the CBS app
so irritating, I'd shell out for the entire season purchase even if it trickles out a week at a time as per usual
― mh, Sunday, 24 September 2017 16:48 (six years ago) link
i'll probably wait until next year and stream the whole season then. or find "other ways" that will appear soon, i'm sure
― Nhex, Sunday, 24 September 2017 17:00 (six years ago) link
I just did the free CBS trial on my tv device, but I guess it doesn't air until tonight? boo
― mh, Sunday, 24 September 2017 17:22 (six years ago) link
― Señor Winces (Old Lunch)
yeah i mean i know game of thrones seems to do ok and all but i'm not sure why directly adopting a piracy-based business model is cbs's schtick here
anyway when the streaming service fails they'll probably just toss it to another streaming service. doesn't necessarily doom the show.
― bob lefse (rushomancy), Sunday, 24 September 2017 18:48 (six years ago) link
Phase II - proposed for Paramount Television Service, a fourth US networkVoyager (1995-2001), Enterprise (2001-2005) - designed to support UPN (1995-2006)
― Einstein, Kazanga, Sitar (abanana), Sunday, 24 September 2017 18:56 (six years ago) link
nice ship -- too bad they haven't invented probes yet and have to send their first officer into lethal radiation
― mookieproof, Monday, 25 September 2017 02:00 (six years ago) link
this was fun but fuck CBS for making me watch a thousand NAVY SEALS promos and then asking for money to keep watching
― El Tomboto, Monday, 25 September 2017 02:15 (six years ago) link
points for having the main plot thread be about a black woman trying to tell everybody "no really, they're going to kill all of us" and being shouted down
― El Tomboto, Monday, 25 September 2017 02:17 (six years ago) link
cbs has consistently been tightassed with digital access to its programming since the tv-web boom, it's annoying
― j., Monday, 25 September 2017 03:20 (six years ago) link
Enjoying this!
First question: how can I get one of those dope uniforms
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 25 September 2017 04:42 (six years ago) link
We signed up for free trial - canceled after 2nd ep & got a month free so 4 more episodes
But seriously $6 for 1 original show and commercials is a joke. $10 if you want commercial free? Eat a dick
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 25 September 2017 05:20 (six years ago) link
A few minutes in, it looks right at least. The ship and cinematography look like a Star Trek show (vs. the new movies).
― louise ck (milo z), Monday, 25 September 2017 05:43 (six years ago) link
New Klingons - ehhhhhhhh. The makeup is so heavy their faces barely move.
― louise ck (milo z), Monday, 25 September 2017 06:02 (six years ago) link
Huh.
― louise ck (milo z), Monday, 25 September 2017 06:59 (six years ago) link
The theme manages to have twelve different sections, goes a bit Mahler for some reason, not very catchy
Although I speak as someone who liked Faith of the Heart so ignore me
― Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 25 September 2017 07:44 (six years ago) link
Only seen the first hour - I feel like I can semi-credibly guess which ideas/dialogue came from Fuller and what came from Kurtzman/Goldsman. Not bad but the character-backstory shit is hacky and painful.
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Monday, 25 September 2017 14:13 (six years ago) link
Thought it was ok. Will keep watching. But yeah, the theme tune is a mess
― groovypanda, Monday, 25 September 2017 14:17 (six years ago) link
I liked the show!
At the beginning I was thinking "hmm, is this Star Trek enough?"
But, thinking back, the best shows start out with their own scope and integrate. Enterprise was slavishly devoted to tying into continuity while not fleshing out much history. More than anything I got the impression that someone (Fuller? looked like he was the writer w/Ortzman) had an understanding of what TNG and DS9 did well.
The previews make it look like it's going to be scientific discovery (hah!) in a time of war. Which is a clearer mission statement than we've gotten recently.
― mh, Monday, 25 September 2017 14:20 (six years ago) link
Yeah did enjoy that and thought there was going to be more, but I guess CBS is running it as a weekly show and selling it on elsewhere.
― Stevolende, Monday, 25 September 2017 14:30 (six years ago) link
Gotta free up airtime for those Chuck Lorre productions and NCIS: Anchorage.
― Gewgaws for Meemaw (Old Lunch), Monday, 25 September 2017 14:38 (six years ago) link
I know it's a Toronto production, so I hate to say this but most of the sets looked pretty lacklustre. Felt like they were adding the occasional lens flares out of sheer desperation to spice it up. And yeahhh, the guys playing Klingons can't even act in all that get up. Hopefully they will sort it out as it goes along.
― Manitobiloba (Kim), Monday, 25 September 2017 15:35 (six years ago) link
OH. And reading a recap just now, reminds me of the scene where the new cap'n on the Antares exclaims "70% for the win!" which REALLY clanged. That stupid phrase is dated NOW, let alone 100s of years from now, ugh.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Saturday, 6 April 2024 04:39 (two weeks ago) link
lame
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 6 April 2024 04:48 (two weeks ago) link
still LOVING cronenburg thohe is a delight
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 6 April 2024 05:24 (two weeks ago) link
I tuned out during the desert speed racer seen. You’re not just ripping off Star Wars, you’re ripping off the WORST Star Wars.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Saturday, 6 April 2024 05:27 (two weeks ago) link
After Strange New Worlds, it’s jarring how little anyone outside of Michael and maybe 2-3 other people matter.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Saturday, 6 April 2024 05:30 (two weeks ago) link
Ive been reflecting more on it ,having just watched a few STNG eps. One was basically a whole-episode meditation on Worf dealing with being a single dad (shittily, natch). But it made me think: with 25+ eps a season, you had *time* to spend a whole ep on one character's arc, story, persona. This has prob been said loads I'm sure but the streaming era sucks in that they have to cram everything in with only 8-10 eps per season and insisting on season-long story arcs. Its hard to feel any connection to anyone when we're busy watching them just react to the situation all the time and not stopping to just exist once in a while. I'd argue even SNW/LD have this problem!
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Saturday, 6 April 2024 05:42 (two weeks ago) link
TL;DR: old crone yells at cloud, no one takes the time anymore, yadda yadda.
no that’s just itstrange new worlds can give a whole episode to a story, and yes maybe thats a function of it being a throwback but disco feels like it’s always running 4 plots every episode and doing all of them half justice. it makes me not care abt any of it!
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 6 April 2024 06:16 (two weeks ago) link
Strange New Worlds was worse on the fun episodic content in the second season (still loads better than Discovery, of course).
― papal hotwife (milo z), Saturday, 6 April 2024 07:15 (two weeks ago) link
I mean it had the LD crossover and the musical episode alone!
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 6 April 2024 16:49 (two weeks ago) link
yeah idk milo maybe you forgot more of s2 than u remembered
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 6 April 2024 19:55 (two weeks ago) link
The musical episode was the opposite of fun (though episodic). They did way more Discovery feelings talk this season.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Saturday, 6 April 2024 20:19 (two weeks ago) link
this show can be pretty dumb but I still feel a sneaking fondness towards it
first two episodes were fine but I did have a sinking feeling when the segments of the season-long story arc started clunking into place
― Kraal Disorientation Chamber (emsworth), Sunday, 7 April 2024 02:02 (two weeks ago) link
like another mcguffiny quest and at the end we will for sure be staring in awe at a cgi aurora borealis contemplating the wonder of creation in a canonically non-conclusive way
and saru will be back just to up the hugs and feelings quotient
― Kraal Disorientation Chamber (emsworth), Sunday, 7 April 2024 02:05 (two weeks ago) link
I mean probably that is just Star Trek and I should relax into it
― Kraal Disorientation Chamber (emsworth), Sunday, 7 April 2024 02:06 (two weeks ago) link
lol otm no lies told
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 7 April 2024 02:24 (two weeks ago) link
briefly wondered, in the finale, if tilly and vance were gonna bang
― mookieproof, Thursday, March 17, 2022 8:13 PM (two years ago)
this should have happened imo
― mookieproof, Sunday, 7 April 2024 02:40 (two weeks ago) link
another map with x locations they need to visit to uncover a secret, just like the red angel in season 2. hopefully no time travel this time.
also has the star trek v problem in that there is no way the progenitors stuff has a satisfying payoff.
ep2 had some breathing room for banter with saru. i liked that. is saru gone now?
― formerly abanana (dat), Sunday, 7 April 2024 02:54 (two weeks ago) link
I liked the first two seasons well enough but tapped out a few episodes into the third season because Michael was so boring without a Spock/Jason Isaacs/Michelle Yeoh to play off.
I think I’ll skip 3&4 and watch this last season though. Did I miss anything? Why is David Cronenberg wearing a 20th century suit? Did Michael and Book ever threaten to become interesting?
― Chuck_Tatum, Sunday, 7 April 2024 15:02 (two weeks ago) link
I hope the reveal is that the Cronenberg character is actually David Cronenberg...
There's something super-Canadian about latter day Trek (not that Trek was ever lacking Canadian-ness via Shatner) that gives it an off-brand forgettableness. I think Callum Rennie was even in ExistenZ(!)
― Philip Nunez, Sunday, 7 April 2024 17:28 (two weeks ago) link
Yeah Red Angel all over again was what came immediately to mind for me too xpsAlso stunned that the first clue points to Trill, just after Adira says she's happier separated from Gray
― groovypanda, Sunday, 7 April 2024 19:12 (two weeks ago) link
i torrented the first two episodes but in the highlights from last season someone 'felt seen' and then in the first scene all the annoying characters (i.e. *not* owosekun or at least detmer) are being sad/bitchy and you know what? fuck that, i'm out
*almost* want to keep watching just for cronenberg but it's not enough
― mookieproof, Monday, 15 April 2024 05:34 (one week ago) link
I watched S05 E03 but have no real memory of it
― Kraal Disorientation Chamber (emsworth), Monday, 15 April 2024 05:54 (one week ago) link
Trill mindmeld and cloaking monster and puzzle piece something something something (why have Klingons disappeared in the 32nd century?). It's still bad but now I'm stuck and have to finish the season.
Amazing how the then-seemingly-bad first couple of seasons seem solid in comparison, at least you had Jason Patrick and Space Hitler chewing scenery.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 15 April 2024 09:17 (one week ago) link
S3 was really weird and the plot is feeling horribly clumsy. It seems to basically be turning into zelda triforce fetchquest. Ugh.
Oh and as someone on IMDB pointed out, whats the point of finding any of this now when they had a Genesis device in S3 of Picard?
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 04:30 (one week ago) link
Sorry I meant EP 3, dammit.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 04:32 (one week ago) link
But having said that - Culber-as-Jinraal was pretty fun, Wilson Cruz acted that up really well, and I liked how it was a callback to when all the DS9 crew had to go around manifesting Curzon and all Dax's other peeps.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 04:34 (one week ago) link
oh man the actor who manifested joran(?) for ezri in DS9 s07 was almost unbearably over-the-top
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 04:37 (one week ago) link
Was he the serial killer one the whole point it was for? I cant actually remember it now lol, and I only watched it last year.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 05:00 (one week ago) link
yes! so bad
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 05:47 (one week ago) link
Joran, the pick-me serial killer
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 14:05 (one week ago) link
Discovery this season seems like a video game, collect all the pieces of the puzzle type quest. The graphics seem kinda gamey too cf Michael surfing on a spaceship in a "warp bubble".
― BrianB, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 16:01 (one week ago) link
So, I thought I didn't enjoy last nights episode for various reasons, but...it turns out its one of the most liked/popular of the show!? Clearly I missed something. All I kept thinking was "if Burnham and Stamets kept reappearing in the past how come they dont remember it happening before? Why isnt Burnham fighting herself breaking the frickin timeline? What have I missed?" Apparently the whole thing was a callback to a VOY episode called "Shattered" which completely escaped me, so ok.
Also bummed they mentioned Lorca but he was conveniently out on a mission *kicks dirt, grumbles*
The bit where Stamets was desperately trying not to fuck the timeline up by saying the wrong thing was pretty funny, tbf. Also Reno's one appearance. "ah no, are you stuck in a time loop?" *rolls eyes*
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 18 April 2024 22:48 (five days ago) link
i know this is an ongoing thing but it just takes so much longer to DO LITERALLY ANYTHING on this ship in this seriez because everyone has to use the right tone & let everyone’s voice be heard and omg this episode would be half as long on a normally fuctioning ship that just fucking takes orders lol
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 19 April 2024 03:54 (four days ago) link
covert anti-woke series in the guise of a woke one
― stet, Friday, 19 April 2024 16:53 (four days ago) link
kind of fond indulgent lol at the idea that I am invested enough in these characters and their GROWTH to welcome a time-travelling retrospective looking back on how much they've all changed
like, the robot woman who not a day goes by that we don't think about - I could barely remember her - although I looked her up and remembered that she was a completely anonymous character until she got given a back-story about 5 seconds before she was killed off
― Kraal Disorientation Chamber (emsworth), Monday, 22 April 2024 04:28 (yesterday) link
totally!
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 22 April 2024 05:21 (yesterday) link
Remember Michael and Spock talking about their feelings and childhood trauma for ten important minutes when they were supposed to be saving all of human existence? lol
― papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 22 April 2024 05:26 (yesterday) link
he was a completely anonymous character until she got given a back-story about 5 seconds before she was killed off
Haaha yes that bit was the worst. I was all "wait, did I miss an episode or 2? Who is this again!?"
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 22 April 2024 06:01 (yesterday) link
death of robot lady episode is the only thing i can remember about this show that isn't jason isaacs or michelle yeoh
did they get isaacs back for this last season - isn't his non-mirror-version unaccounted for? failure if not
― Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 22 April 2024 12:54 (yesterday) link