The Roches

xp oh! I played a gig with The Drink once. Glad to see they're doing well.

To the original poster...you only need to sit through two and a half minutes and you get to one of the most beautiful transitions/songs in recorded music!

https://devonrecordclub.com/2016/07/11/the-roches-the-roches-round-91-toms-selection/

RIP Maggie

ah, shit. I really need to pick up some more Roches records beyond the debut.

love them but she was always my favorite, amazing songwriter. very sad to hear this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBqhigRvplo

https://youtu.be/oh9nlTTygmQ

love them but she was always my favorite, amazing songwriter. very sad to hear this.
📹

Also, embedded link here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oh9nlTTygmQ&feature=youtu.be

I was too pat and dismissive in my earlier posts on this thread, although yeah, I still think they were too cutesy at times. Maybe it's just another example of the self-indulgence that you sometimes have to indulge (at least to the extent of setting it aside) in artists you enjoy.

Anyway, she was a great songwriter, overall.

RIP. My favorite of her songs:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MyJIQkdruo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBQSJLRb-mw

My favorite of hers, written from the point of view of her father who was in the late stages of Alzheimer's; the "she" in the song is her mother.

Thanks, and good to know that kid sister Suzzy is still active, touring in '16 w daughter Lucy Wainwright Roche, who also works solo and with Martha as The Wainwright Sisters. Mom and daughter did this song and video, re Suzzy's novel Wayward Saints:
http://www.roches.com/suzzy/

So sorry to hear this, I grew up listening to the first two Roches albums - the first is covered very well upthread, but the 'Nurds' is also absolutely worth checking out. The title track starts off sort of MOR and almost gets like Roches do Kleenex/LiLiPUT after a bit which is pretty unexpected if you're going through their LPs in order.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWnAxwLriig

Does anyone know the story behind the stuff they shout it in "Nurds?" I'm guessing some of it might be actual school girl taunts.

My pal Steve just uploaded this, it's apparently an off air copy and has a Q&A that was never broadcasted, the second part is uploading as we speak I believe.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsRB0xH55P4&feature=youtu.be

Dang, one more.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsRB0xH55P4

the prince was confused, so he asked the magician

i just heard "hammond song" for the first time. what a remarkable song. the odd lyrics and those harmonies playing around with the guitar Frippery. yum

― tayto fan (Michael B), Wednesday, October 28, 2015 10:35 PM (one year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

^^ Me right now.

absolutely love Hammond Song. Go-to drinking song tbh

Don't know if the Roches have any true heiresses, but The Unthanks come to mind.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyAPZaey7PQ

Soz, meant this one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPnDO4gJk84

Folk evolving into British Sea Power-esque proggy bliss where stakes are honestly high.

I am probably half of the dedicated Unthanks thread at this point

Suzzy & Lucy got a new alb out Oct. 30, details here (didn't know this site, got a lot of Roche-Wainwright-and-otherwise-relateds/compatibles):http://storysoundrecords.com/news

Nice. I've been meaning to check out the others they've done, or really any of the various solo and duo Roche albums. So much stuff released between A Dove and Moonswept, in particular, and those are both great.

oops, just saw this:
hello from NYC!
just wanted to let you know that my mom and I will be doing an online show from my apartment - tonight at 7:30 eastern!

don't worry - if you can't make that time, the concert will remain up and watchable for a few days. if you CAN make it, YAY!
Here's how to find us tonight:

Suzzy and Lucy
Songs From Home - November 18 - 7:30pm

YouTube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWH0NNf98hY
Facebook:
www.facebook.com/lucy.w.roche

Instagram :
@lucywainwrightroche

Sending love from Brooklyn!
xo Lucy (and Suzzy!)

Maggie Roche wrote an 8-minute song about how much she loves her winter coat, and it's utterly delightful

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3SBuAqbxz4

So charming! I'm not familiar with much of their stuff beyond the first few albums (and Seductive Reasoning), but I came across this song at some point and it's been a favorite of mine ever since.

Roches' Christmas album is a longtime favorite.

That was, indeed, charming.

Don't always like that first song they play on that Song From Home concert, but they got through to me.

Okay, “My Winter Coat” is great.

Mountain Stage recently re-broadcast Suzzy & Lucy's December set from home, and it's pretty involving,in some unexpected ways, like when voices infiltrate the big acoustic guitar---not boomy guitar, just something about the home recording plus the typically quirky Mountain Stage sound, at least on radio---haven't listened to the archived set yet, though incl. songs that didn't make the broadcast time constraints, from a very strong, variegated, cohesive li'l trip through originals and covers (Connie Converse, from the 50s, I think they said, comes across like a Roche, Suzzy's hip youngest aunt maybe), also "Factory Girl," not the Stones alas, but a vivid British folk song: Audio and playlist are herehttps://www.mountainstage.org/archives/Pages/playlist.aspx?playlistid=212

"when voices infilrate" that's mainly a passage in one song, I think; voices are up front most of the time.

Mother's Day show ov Lucy & Suzzy will be up for a while; if this link don't work check their Facebook:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExW86ZJ7b5U

Wow. Sounds incredible. Thank you

Oh, hi. Probably not quite the time or the place, butch thinking of doing a poll in Lucy’s dad in the near future, if there is any interest. Happy Mother’s Day!

Butch = been.

in=on

I wish you were butch until...sorry

Maggie Roche wrote an 8-minute song about how much she loves her winter coat, and it's utterly delightful

The 8+ minute title track is also amazing. Starting to think that's secretly one of their best albums.

Bracing live track here: https://pathwaytoparis.bandcamp.com/track/cold-october-day-live-lucy-wainwright-roche-and-suzzy-roche Some others here by them, Martha, Nicole Atkins (whom curmudgeon and I think sounds like 60s Laura Nyro, but def w her own songwriting style), David Johansen, others, sep and together--might have to get this benefit.
Which led me to the original "Cold October Day" and a lot more:https://lucywainwrightrochesuzzyroche.bandcamp.com/album/mud-apples

That was pretty great.

Singer-songwriter Terre Roche of the legendary NYC sibling folk trio, The Roches has announced the release of Kin Ya See That Sun, a collection of previously unreleased live recordings and original songs written and performed by Terre and her late sister Maggie. The 15-track album arrives digitally Friday, October 21.

Kin Ya See That Sun will also be released as a limited-edition book featuring illustrations by Terre, song lyrics, rare photographs, exclusive new interview excerpts, and additional background about the project (all book purchases receive a digital download of the album). The book is available for pre-order now.

Kin Ya See That Sun is heralded by today’s premiere of the title track which is the first song Terre and Maggie wrote together as children.

“I was 12 years old, and Maggie was 13,” says Terre Roche. “We were just learning to play guitar. We’d learned off a PBS special called ‘Folk Guitar with Laura Weber’ – I’ve always regretted that I never wrote Laura Weber a fan letter, and sadly she has passed away, but she taught us a bunch of guitar chords, strums and very cool folk songs we had never heard before. Maggie gave me this set of lyrics and I wrote the music for it. Though we had never traveled beyond our New Jersey home we had a longing to go out West.”

Listen to "Kin Ya See That Sun"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32KEU2dCPXE

Terre and Maggie Roche grew up in Park Ridge, NJ where they first fell in love with folk music before setting off to perform their own songs at college campuses around the country. The sisters toured the US by themselves, for more than two years, with 17-year-old Terre completing her senior year of high school by doing homework and exams while on the road. Paul Simon met them when they crashed his songwriting class at NYU. He would come to produce part of their album Seductive Reasoning and enlist them to sing background harmonies on his blockbuster third solo album, 1973’s There Goes Rhymin’ Simon. With his support, the sisters made their official debut with 1975’s now-classic Seductive Reasoning, featuring production from Simon and the renowned Paul Samwell-Smith (Cat Stevens, Carly Simon, Jethro Tull), with backing by the famed Muscle Shoals Rhythm Section.

Terre and Maggie were soon joined by youngest sister Suzzy as The Roches. Hailed for their irreverent, beguiling, and original approach to traditional folk songcraft and three-part harmony, the trio made a spectacular debut with 1979’s The Roches (produced by Robert Fripp, with whom Terre also collaborated on that same year’s milestone LP, Exposure), followed by a long series of recordings, tours, and TV appearances (including a memorable 1979 performance on Saturday Night Live).http://www.roches.com/television/snl79.html

Sadly, Maggie Roche passed away in 2017. Two years later, out of the blue, Terre received live recordings from two different people who had recorded her and Maggie performing in 1975 and 2000. Here were many of the songs from Seductive Reasoning as they were originally arranged, just two voices and two guitars. Highlights include powerful performances of fan favorites like “Telephone Bill” and “Damned Old Dog” (recorded during a 1975 promotional tour) and the classic “If You Emptied Out All Your Pockets You Could Not Make the Change,” the latter recorded during Terre and Maggie’s acclaimed run of concerts in 2000. All live recordings featured on Kin Ya See That Sun were restored and mastered by Thomas Millioto.

Kin Ya See That Sun further collects never-before-heard songs such as “The Colleges” and “Apostrophe to the Wind” alongside exclusive outtakes from Seductive Reasoning including “Pretty and High” (later re-recorded for The Roches’ eponymous debut) and the previously unreleased gem, “Moonruns,” both produced in London by Samwell-Smith.

“Working on this project has brought me back in touch with the deep spiritual connection Maggie and I shared at a point in our lives,” Terre Roche says. “You can hear that connection in these songs. Hearing the music we made together amazes me after all these years. And I feel her gratitude toward me, wherever she is now, for shepherding the songs in their pure form through some tough terrain and on out into the light for everyone to hear.”

Terre will celebrate the release of Kin Ya See That Sun with a special performance at New York City’s City Winery on October 18 at 7:30pm. Tickets are on sale now.

Tracklist:

Apostrophe to the Wind

Damned Old Dog

Down the Dream

If You Emptied Out All Your Pockets You Could Not Make the Change

Kin Ya See That Sun

Malachy’s

Moonruns

Pretty and High

Telephone Bill

The Burden of Proof

The Colleges

The Mountain People

West Virginia

Wigglin Man

Blabbermouth

www.terreroche.com

Press Contact:

Ken Weinstein

weinstein at bighassle.com

This has eight of the ten songs from Seductive Reasoning, which I think may be better than any of their first three records as the Roches. They're not relying as much as they would later on cleverness and whimsy, and there's a ghostly quality to a song like "West Virginia" that they didn't quite recapture later. Maybe the harmonic variety of writing and performing on piano as well as guitar gives it a greater range, too.

Seductive Reasoning was the first one I heard and the others were disappointing in comparison.

I first heard (and saw) them in 1979 on SNL. My 14 year old self had no idea what to make of them. I thought it was some kind of joke.

Buying this for my mom. Am I to understand that there will be no physical audio release? Just the book and digital? If this is the case, I'd say they are leaving some money on the table, given the age of their fanbase. Maybe I'm missing something. The website isn't super clear

This has eight of the ten songs from _Seductive Reasoning_, which I think may be better than any of their first three records as the Roches. They're not relying as much as they would later on cleverness and whimsy, and there's a ghostly quality to a song like "West Virginia" that they didn't quite recapture later. Maybe the harmonic variety of writing and performing on piano as well as guitar gives it a greater range, too.

Everything about that record is A++++, even the jokey songs.

I second this, though my 8yo absolutely hates this record

Another World is puzzling, it's hard to tell what they were trying to do with the production or whether they just acquiesced to it. It's simultaneously slick and cheap, which is a particularly bad combination in terms of 1985 sonics. There isn't even a lot of the goofy stuff that sometimes weighed down the previous records, but it's not generic enough to actual imagine it breaking through on the radio of the era.
This came out the same year as Suzanne Vega's debut, which I've heard discussed as a spearhead of a folk revival; I wonder if that would have been a better sound for them.

unexpected youtube comment:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6zXhDUrZU8

@suzzyrocheandlucywainwrigh3600
5 months ago

Love this! xox -suzzy roche

(NB: not the best cover imho, but points for Hammond organ solo + drummer using the "Ashley's Roachclip" pattern)