80s Suicide Squad vs 80s Justice League International

whenever I think about JLI it reminds me of the ilx thread where ppl were talking about how this photo of Obama looks like a Kevin Maguire picture:

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uncanny

what's the Beetle picture from? very over-muscled for Maguire

the Obama definitely looks like Maguire, though

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The weird thing is, if you think about the influence JLI had on Joss Whedon, and the influence Whedon has had on popular culture and the way people speak (both in the late 90-00 with Buffy, and in the 2010s with the MCU) - then, in an admittedly indirect way, we all live in a world with Giffen/Dematteis in its DNA. (And also, I guess, Larry Gelbart - JLI is essentially the M*A*S*H TV show with superheroes.)

If only Barry was a secret JLI fan.

I voted SS because it was consistently awesome; the art wasn't always excellent but the story carried it. JLI at a certain point (maybe around #45 or so?) lost the plot and while I still have the issues a little past the point when Dan Jurgens (I think?) took over, I never feel any need to re-read the late ones.

(And I guess you guys are right, these series aren't forgotten. But then again I don't really fuck with post-1995 DC comics.)

JLI is terrific for the Adam Hughes and Kevin Maguire runs, sort of middling to ropey the rest of the time. But I was 11 and I liked science fiction and bad comedy, so it was perfect for me. I reread them to death over and over again, and DeMatteis's hippy dialogue - humanist, anti-authoritarian, corny as shit - has probably informed my way of being as an adult in a way that (I realise now) borders on the creepy.

Also: Gerard Jones - odd writer.

I haven't read suicide squad - have them on the iPad and excited to catch up.

"Ram the building, Scott."

JLI at a certain point (maybe around #45 or so?) lost the plot

#46 is where the General Glory storyline starts, which is a different tone to the series prior, but interesting to see how early they thought a corrective backlash to grim & gritty was required - before 1963, before Big Bang Comics, before the Busiek Spider-Man series, almost ten years before America's Best Comics... #50 has the Kyle Baker story about how JLI is written, which is fantastic, and then #51 was the final Adam Hughes issue, a straight sitcom and one of the best issues ever. In my filing, I have all the spinoffs and annuals and JLEs mixed in together in chronological reading order, but I've stopped re-reads at #51 more than once.

#52 is the start of Breakdowns, which was tragic to read as a kid who'd rolled his eyes at the morons writing in to this comedy book with heartfelt characters -- "You should do more crossovers!" "You should bring back (x) so they have a real threat to face!" "This should stop being funny, superheroes are serious!" "Why don't you have more people die?" -- and Giffen & Helfer decided to leave the stage by giving that audience exactly what they'd been bleating for.

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i love them both but i guess it has to be jli to me since "identity crisis" was the point where i said "you know what, dc comics? fuck you."

The last issue of Breakdowns with Maguire is very good - a perfect ending, really (although undone a week later by the next issue of JLE )

Need to dig out my old JLE/JLI collection out, in storage at my mom's. Admittedly it's been a few years.

Breakdowns WAS great, as I remember it, though there were stronger moments preceding it - when the series pulled away from the chuckles and went dark it was a sucker punch for sure. Thinking of the first appearance of Despero in this run - which, oh my fucking God - and also Beetle vs Guy.

(Really struggling to remember the twists and turns in JLE and losing track.)

I'm hoping to get to Cerebus sometime in the near future, thanks for the reminder, sic!

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Ha!

A draw!

fair