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shoulda covered "prince charming"

clouds, Saturday, 11 June 2016 19:47 (seven years ago) link

are there any instances of Prince blocking a cover earlier than Elvis Costello in 1997? it seems like that was the beginning of it becoming a common practice for him in the 2000s

Weird Al?

http://www.tmz.com/2016/05/17/weird-al-yankovic-prince/

Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 12 June 2016 04:05 (seven years ago) link

Someone posted a download link on one of the Prince fan FB pages, to download scans of every magazine's tribute features since his death. Does anyone know where I can find this? Couldn't get to computer at the time.

PaulTMA, Tuesday, 14 June 2016 10:02 (seven years ago) link

Weird Al is always within his rights to record whatever he wants - fair use in satire - but because he's a cool dude he only does so with an artist's permission. Legally speaking, I don't see how Prince could have made anyone back down from covering him, tbh, as long as he was credited and mechanically recompensed. Maybe folks like Elvis Costello just didn't want the trouble?

The weirdest Prince copyright thing was when he covered Radiohead at Coachella and he blocked video of that, at least until Radiohead was all whatever.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 14 June 2016 11:31 (seven years ago) link

That's not weird, that's himself assuming that Radiohead should be in the position of accepting it first.

Mark G, Tuesday, 14 June 2016 12:00 (seven years ago) link

I'm not sure that was his justification.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 14 June 2016 12:11 (seven years ago) link

Of course Elvis made a new song out of his backing track - I take it Prince had no bone to pick with that?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGhlUBtY8_I

PaulTMA, Tuesday, 14 June 2016 12:29 (seven years ago) link

Questlove’s Album-By-Album Guide To Prince’s WB Catalogue

http://www.okayplayer.com/news/questlove-prince-album-guide.html

StillAdvance, Friday, 17 June 2016 10:21 (seven years ago) link

"maybe prince is at his best when he is not so calculating and is just in work mode"

StillAdvance, Friday, 17 June 2016 10:21 (seven years ago) link

Cool. Will have to read over the weekend. And yeah, ^that.

Cry for a Shadow Blaster (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 17 June 2016 11:24 (seven years ago) link

Okay, couldn't wait. That was great and totally otm.

Cry for a Shadow Blaster (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 17 June 2016 11:35 (seven years ago) link

Did he forget to put a grade on Lovesexy?

Cry for a Shadow Blaster (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 18 June 2016 02:20 (seven years ago) link

Urgh he's even worse at writing than he is at drumming

albvivertine, Saturday, 18 June 2016 04:35 (seven years ago) link

challopsy!

wizzz! (amateurist), Saturday, 18 June 2016 04:45 (seven years ago) link

I know, wasn't meant to be! Couldn't read past the second page of that thing tho.

albvivertine, Saturday, 18 June 2016 04:58 (seven years ago) link

it was a fun read. he only really sees the music through a production/sonic-nerdery lens though. which is cool in a way, prince is sort of underrated/overlooked for that aspect. and most of his opinions are fairly sound (OTM that the black album was better as a low quality bootleg, though it still has some of his funkiest songs, its just not a great 'album'). though how he decides that the 1999 album has 'focus' and dirty mind - unarguably his most focused album EVER - doesnt is a bit WTF.

StillAdvance, Saturday, 18 June 2016 14:10 (seven years ago) link

Re chalupa: I know questlove is a great drummer because everyone says so, but never saw live footage that convinced me - open to suggestions... but then again, I never thought erykah badu or d'angelo great musicians either, and they're from a similar school so maybe a matter of taste

niels, Sunday, 19 June 2016 00:22 (seven years ago) link

I like D'Angelo a lot as a musician/singer/etc, Voodoo's great, but Questlove's style distracts me from the grooves at times. Which seems like crappy drumming. I don't like the tones he seems to be into either. Also I read an interview once where he said he wanted to "overexceed expectations". Urgh.

albvivertine, Sunday, 19 June 2016 08:34 (seven years ago) link

voodoo was pretty particular though. the snares were distractingly sharp and the drumming was (apparently) deliberately metronomic. he played on mamas gun the same year and that didnt sound like that. i think hes a good drummer, he just tries too hard a lot of the time.

StillAdvance, Sunday, 19 June 2016 10:36 (seven years ago) link

Kiss my ever lovin H-O-H-E-Ns
HORNS!

scarcity festival (Jon not Jon), Monday, 20 June 2016 14:42 (seven years ago) link

Koppelman, who once handled business for Martha Stewart, said there could be a Broadway musical featuring Prince’s hits or a Cirque du Soleil show. “Prince was an icon on the level of The Beatles and Michael Jackson, and his legacy should be honored,” Koppelman said.

Surely I'm not the only one to sense a disconnect between honoring Prince's legacy and making a Broadway musical.

doug watson, Monday, 20 June 2016 15:28 (seven years ago) link

ugh

Οὖτις, Monday, 20 June 2016 15:34 (seven years ago) link

prince would prob have been into that idea (though prob only if he was behind it, and could make it based around all new third eye girl material)

StillAdvance, Monday, 20 June 2016 15:51 (seven years ago) link

well yeah

Οὖτις, Monday, 20 June 2016 15:59 (seven years ago) link

Strays Of The World is the tenth and final track on the second disc of Prince's 20th album Crystal Ball (his fourth using the name SymbolSmallerBlue.png). Strays Of The World was also included in the 1993 Glam Slam Ulysses stage-show, during two segments, titled "The Ship" (opening the show), and "The Homecoming".

The Crystal Ball liner notes state that it was "originally intended 4 a Broadway musical"; this most likely refers to the planned Come musical.

a come musical!

StillAdvance, Monday, 20 June 2016 16:04 (seven years ago) link

the comedy review headlines write themselves

Οὖτις, Monday, 20 June 2016 16:10 (seven years ago) link

i remember reading about this but never really investigated it at the time.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glam_Slam_Ulysses

Glam Slam Ulysses was a 1993 musical production by Prince, loosely based on Homer's Odyssey, featuring a combination of live performances and video, with thirteen previously unreleased songs.

http://variety.com/1993/legit/reviews/glam-slam-ulysses-1200432917/

“Ulysses” concerns itself with Penelope, a would-be other-world goddess, a character referred to as ‘the fan,’ both played by Prince protege Carmen Electra, and our hero, Ulysses, an unlikely dancing god played by Frank Williams.

StillAdvance, Monday, 20 June 2016 16:20 (seven years ago) link

They could make a Prince musical based on The Prince and the Pauper, with the Prince a colorful crazy genius recluse musician who dresses down and hits the clubs to see what the kids are up to and the Pauper an aspiring rapper who gets to live as Prince and use his studio. It could be set in 1991. Prince learns what it's like to struggle again and get back in touch with the kids (guided by a Greek chorus of former female proteges), the rapper pauper learns how hard it is to be rich and famous, then they get together at the end for a huge show, with Prince opening the gates to his "palace" and showing off his new skills for the club kids. It would feature all new songs, both throughout and at the final show.. Then, at the very end, with the party over and everyone gone, "Prince" sits alone and plays "Purple Rain" for an audience of no one. Or maybe just a mirror (held by Jerome?).

Anyway, it would be terrible and make millions.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 20 June 2016 16:31 (seven years ago) link

id watch it.

was this posted already? (from levi seacer's facebook page, not sure when it was written)

https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/p296x100/13445388_1152766171410432_2733716669836643868_n.jpg?oh=a7902db1b13662a0a53b1a2cd2db3940&oe=57DDA508

i love that alan leeds' name is not just crossed off, but *completely* scratched out, while tony m gets to remain.

StillAdvance, Monday, 20 June 2016 16:36 (seven years ago) link

it's not at all hard to imagine prince making a b'way musical, the problem is that he'd want it to be all new music, not one of those "songbook" fiascos like mamma mia.

wizzz! (amateurist), Monday, 20 June 2016 18:31 (seven years ago) link

The concept he was working on before drifting onto the dream factory/crystal ball/SOTT project was directly inspired by west side story iirc

scarcity festival (Jon not Jon), Monday, 20 June 2016 19:01 (seven years ago) link

one of those "songbook" fiascos like mamma mia.

the film version alone of mamma mia grossed 609 million worldwide, not sure "fiasco" is the word you're looking for

something can be an aesthetic fiasco and a commercial bonanza, no?

wizzz! (amateurist), Monday, 20 June 2016 21:19 (seven years ago) link

i'll never forget being in a video store while this was playing and a woman cried out "Whose idea was THAT?"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptWuPFG7GI4

helpless before THRILLARY (Dr Morbius), Monday, 20 June 2016 21:46 (seven years ago) link

Candy Dulfer makes the list, but not Joni Mitchell or Little Richard?

MatthewK, Monday, 20 June 2016 22:09 (seven years ago) link

When I want sax, I ask for Candy.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 20 June 2016 22:13 (seven years ago) link

I saw her band Funky Stuff in about 1988, I think, at The Paradiso (or it the Melkweg?) in Amsterdam. Some other audience members told my friend that there was some rumor about a Prince connection, that he was intending to bring them out on tour as an opener or something like that. My reaction was perhaps more skeptical than it should have been.

Poe, I know all about Ulalume (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 21 June 2016 01:25 (seven years ago) link

not to downplay her talents (though yknow, she wasnt THAT great), but basically she had the look....

apparently the list is from 2000 or thereabouts and got revised later. alan leeds said not to make much of his being crossed out as no management are in there....

StillAdvance, Tuesday, 21 June 2016 07:40 (seven years ago) link

Nice that he changed "Sly Stone" to "Sly and the Family Stone".

albvivertine, Tuesday, 21 June 2016 09:20 (seven years ago) link

Should have shouted out to Marc Bolan, but hey.

Mark G, Tuesday, 21 June 2016 10:12 (seven years ago) link

Just popping in to say I wish the skinny motherfucker with the high voice was still with us, thanks

Oh baby, if only you knew / Gabnebb hit a hundred-and-two (stevie), Tuesday, 21 June 2016 12:01 (seven years ago) link

apparently the list is from 2000 or thereabouts and got revised later.

I presumed it was made soon after Rave Un2 to the Joy Fantastic, because the list includes Eve and Gwen Stefani, both of whom appear on that album.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 21 June 2016 12:05 (seven years ago) link

And there's no renato neto or John Blackwell on it

scarcity festival (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 21 June 2016 12:33 (seven years ago) link

I was in Spain in ... summer 1993? Anyway, there was some ad for Candy Dulfer's album that was played on the radio, or TV, again and again. Kept hearing "Sax ... a go-go ... sax ... a go-go ..." She was great on his 2004 tour.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 21 June 2016 13:09 (seven years ago) link

i had a dream last night that prince came to a party i was throwing at a cheese shop because he heard i was a fan and he brought a bunch of new music and we all had a great time but then he got offended when he overheard me not loving his acting chops and after a sleepover with everyone in the cheese store, he left in a huff and I was freaking out and apologizing but Jerome stopped me from running after him and when i was screaming WHY? WHY? Jerome said,"because you were love hating" and then i woke up. it was upsetting.

thrusted pelvis-first back (ulysses), Tuesday, 21 June 2016 14:34 (seven years ago) link

http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/6041/1281/320/cap0008.jpg

StillAdvance, Tuesday, 21 June 2016 14:37 (seven years ago) link

http://pitchfork.com/news/66243-unreleased-prince-music-plays-at-versace-milan-fashion-show-watch/

this isnt bad actually. prince in sort of industrial techno mode.

StillAdvance, Tuesday, 21 June 2016 14:51 (seven years ago) link

like, you could kind of imagine him doing a decent score with this.

StillAdvance, Tuesday, 21 June 2016 14:52 (seven years ago) link

Not my intention, but I understand if it's taken the wrong way.

But I was really looking forward to his Joni tribute after.... you know.

pplains, Tuesday, 21 June 2016 15:54 (seven years ago) link


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