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Bad hair. Good clothes though. I love this line in the Not Coming piece: "The film had the dubious honor of winning five Razzie awards, even tying with Howard the Duck for Worst Picture. But does Howard the Duck feature Prince, in a bathtub filled with rose petals, playing with a toy boat while wearing a hat? No."

So many highly enjoyable details in that movie. Great bit of backwards film in the "Girls and Boys" performance for instance.

stop torturing me ethel (broom air), Friday, 10 June 2016 16:00 (seven years ago) link

aw I love prince's graffiti bridge hair. so lush. the facial hair is regrettable yes

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Friday, 10 June 2016 16:03 (seven years ago) link

i watched it for the first time yesterday and I think the biggest sin against it is that it's kinda boring, which I can't say about under the cherry moon or purple rain

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Friday, 10 June 2016 16:04 (seven years ago) link

a middle ground between purple rain (same plot essentially just with religious overtones) and sign o the times (exclusively filmed on soundstages plus great performances) should theoretically kinda rule but it just kinda dully meanders

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Friday, 10 June 2016 16:06 (seven years ago) link

So, Sign o the Times isn't a legit concert film? (I haven't seen)

rhymes with "blondie blast" (cryptosicko), Friday, 10 June 2016 16:22 (seven years ago) link

it's like 90% performances

Οὖτις, Friday, 10 June 2016 16:25 (seven years ago) link

iirc there's a couple backstage scene things? It's been over 15+ years since I've seen it (RIP VHS copy)

Οὖτις, Friday, 10 June 2016 16:26 (seven years ago) link

yeah there are a few stage interstitials that aren't... good or anything, but are fun, and i love the sets they built for it

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Friday, 10 June 2016 16:32 (seven years ago) link

"it's like 90% performances"

shot iirc on the actual SOTT tour, then dubbed with audio re-recorded semi/quasi-live at paisley park. classic prince move. but brilliantly done. who can tell?

StillAdvance, Friday, 10 June 2016 16:36 (seven years ago) link

or was it all shot at PP, then dubbed later? not sure.

StillAdvance, Friday, 10 June 2016 16:36 (seven years ago) link

yeah I don't remember

Οὖτις, Friday, 10 June 2016 16:39 (seven years ago) link

there's a video wherein Dick Gregory theorizes that Prince was killed, but i have not watched so i will not link.

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Friday, 10 June 2016 16:43 (seven years ago) link

According to Eric Leeds in the Per Nilsen book ("DanceMusicSexRomance") around 80% was reshot at Paisley Park because the actual concert footage shot for the film in Europe turned out too grainy. Pretty amazing.

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Friday, 10 June 2016 16:43 (seven years ago) link

xpost He crazy.

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Friday, 10 June 2016 16:43 (seven years ago) link

DG is deeply conspiratorial and quite inconsistent

'they wanted him dead cos he owned his masters...'
'wait...'
'who said he really owned his masters when he died?'

etc

StillAdvance, Friday, 10 June 2016 16:44 (seven years ago) link

In terms of his look and his moves and even his affect sort of, I feel like p in graffiti bridge is the closest he ever got to MJ-ness. It's weird and doesn't work for me.

Morris is pretty flat in graffiti bridge, but I did lol mightily at:

"WHAT is your main problem?!"

and

"I miss those back rubs..."

The bit where Morris and Jerome are grossed out by having accidentally made out is car crash fascinating -- directorial Prince drags that pause out so fucking long it's insane

scarcity festival (Jon not Jon), Friday, 10 June 2016 16:54 (seven years ago) link

i liked the bit where jerome lays the woman's coat on the ground so morris doesnt have to walk in a puddle lol

StillAdvance, Friday, 10 June 2016 17:02 (seven years ago) link

Oh that was good. That was early in the film and got my hopes up that Morris and Jerome would bring it.

scarcity festival (Jon not Jon), Friday, 10 June 2016 17:20 (seven years ago) link

In terms of his look and his moves and even his affect sort of, I feel like p in graffiti bridge is the closest he ever got to MJ-ness. It's weird and doesn't work for me.

this is very true. if Prince was ever gonna give a song to MJ, I can see "Thieves In The Temple" being it.

Dierks Bentley's Holistic Detective Agency (some dude), Friday, 10 June 2016 17:44 (seven years ago) link

all the new jack swing moves in this are a bit sad/disappointing

Οὖτις, Friday, 10 June 2016 17:49 (seven years ago) link

i posted a link to this russian site that had SOTT movie upthread, great concert

rockpalast '82 (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 10 June 2016 18:16 (seven years ago) link

"Round & Round" is a jam tho (probably cause Prince mostly just gets the fuck out of the way tbh)

Hey (Extended Mix), Saturday, 11 June 2016 06:05 (seven years ago) link

they don't even put the full song in the movie!
i loved that video back in the day. Tevin Campbell, where are you now? (j/k i know where he is, don't tell me)

De La Soul is no Major Lazer (ulysses), Saturday, 11 June 2016 06:35 (seven years ago) link

http://go963mn.com/uploads/Prince-Graffiti-Bridge-Trailer.jpg

MatthewK, Saturday, 11 June 2016 07:42 (seven years ago) link

oh dear

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Saturday, 11 June 2016 15:35 (seven years ago) link

idk if it's just the dvd transfer but i also feel like the movie should be brighter than it is. it's very dull and foggy

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Saturday, 11 June 2016 15:40 (seven years ago) link

it was dim like that when i watched it on cable too. Morris and Jerome's 'dueling banjos' scene is fun at least.

Dierks Bentley's Holistic Detective Agency (some dude), Saturday, 11 June 2016 15:45 (seven years ago) link

Is he supposed to be some magical part-animal person with that makeup?

Cry for a Shadow Blaster (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 11 June 2016 15:50 (seven years ago) link

when has Prince not been a magical part-animal person

Dierks Bentley's Holistic Detective Agency (some dude), Saturday, 11 June 2016 15:59 (seven years ago) link

he struck curious poses

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Saturday, 11 June 2016 16:02 (seven years ago) link

when has Prince not been a magical part-animal person

Ha, exactly.

Cry for a Shadow Blaster (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 11 June 2016 16:18 (seven years ago) link

shoulda covered "prince charming"

clouds, Saturday, 11 June 2016 19:47 (seven years ago) link

are there any instances of Prince blocking a cover earlier than Elvis Costello in 1997? it seems like that was the beginning of it becoming a common practice for him in the 2000s

Weird Al?

http://www.tmz.com/2016/05/17/weird-al-yankovic-prince/

Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 12 June 2016 04:05 (seven years ago) link

Someone posted a download link on one of the Prince fan FB pages, to download scans of every magazine's tribute features since his death. Does anyone know where I can find this? Couldn't get to computer at the time.

PaulTMA, Tuesday, 14 June 2016 10:02 (seven years ago) link

Weird Al is always within his rights to record whatever he wants - fair use in satire - but because he's a cool dude he only does so with an artist's permission. Legally speaking, I don't see how Prince could have made anyone back down from covering him, tbh, as long as he was credited and mechanically recompensed. Maybe folks like Elvis Costello just didn't want the trouble?

The weirdest Prince copyright thing was when he covered Radiohead at Coachella and he blocked video of that, at least until Radiohead was all whatever.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 14 June 2016 11:31 (seven years ago) link

That's not weird, that's himself assuming that Radiohead should be in the position of accepting it first.

Mark G, Tuesday, 14 June 2016 12:00 (seven years ago) link

I'm not sure that was his justification.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 14 June 2016 12:11 (seven years ago) link

Of course Elvis made a new song out of his backing track - I take it Prince had no bone to pick with that?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGhlUBtY8_I

PaulTMA, Tuesday, 14 June 2016 12:29 (seven years ago) link

Questlove’s Album-By-Album Guide To Prince’s WB Catalogue

http://www.okayplayer.com/news/questlove-prince-album-guide.html

StillAdvance, Friday, 17 June 2016 10:21 (seven years ago) link

"maybe prince is at his best when he is not so calculating and is just in work mode"

StillAdvance, Friday, 17 June 2016 10:21 (seven years ago) link

Cool. Will have to read over the weekend. And yeah, ^that.

Cry for a Shadow Blaster (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 17 June 2016 11:24 (seven years ago) link

Okay, couldn't wait. That was great and totally otm.

Cry for a Shadow Blaster (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 17 June 2016 11:35 (seven years ago) link

Did he forget to put a grade on Lovesexy?

Cry for a Shadow Blaster (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 18 June 2016 02:20 (seven years ago) link

Urgh he's even worse at writing than he is at drumming

albvivertine, Saturday, 18 June 2016 04:35 (seven years ago) link

challopsy!

wizzz! (amateurist), Saturday, 18 June 2016 04:45 (seven years ago) link

I know, wasn't meant to be! Couldn't read past the second page of that thing tho.

albvivertine, Saturday, 18 June 2016 04:58 (seven years ago) link

it was a fun read. he only really sees the music through a production/sonic-nerdery lens though. which is cool in a way, prince is sort of underrated/overlooked for that aspect. and most of his opinions are fairly sound (OTM that the black album was better as a low quality bootleg, though it still has some of his funkiest songs, its just not a great 'album'). though how he decides that the 1999 album has 'focus' and dirty mind - unarguably his most focused album EVER - doesnt is a bit WTF.

StillAdvance, Saturday, 18 June 2016 14:10 (seven years ago) link

Re chalupa: I know questlove is a great drummer because everyone says so, but never saw live footage that convinced me - open to suggestions... but then again, I never thought erykah badu or d'angelo great musicians either, and they're from a similar school so maybe a matter of taste

niels, Sunday, 19 June 2016 00:22 (seven years ago) link

I like D'Angelo a lot as a musician/singer/etc, Voodoo's great, but Questlove's style distracts me from the grooves at times. Which seems like crappy drumming. I don't like the tones he seems to be into either. Also I read an interview once where he said he wanted to "overexceed expectations". Urgh.

albvivertine, Sunday, 19 June 2016 08:34 (seven years ago) link

voodoo was pretty particular though. the snares were distractingly sharp and the drumming was (apparently) deliberately metronomic. he played on mamas gun the same year and that didnt sound like that. i think hes a good drummer, he just tries too hard a lot of the time.

StillAdvance, Sunday, 19 June 2016 10:36 (seven years ago) link


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