Rape, blame, responsibility, Amnesty, etcetera.

I didn't know you're allowed to do that as a juror, bow out because you don't like the judge. Or does the judge simply have discretion to allow that?

I think the judge probably has discretion to allow that, but I don't know the state rules. Usually there's a portion of voir dire where they ask you if there's any reason you think you wouldn't be able to serve objectively, and if you said "I have a problem with the judge" the lawyers doing the selecting would almost certainly dismiss you anyway.

I didn't know you're allowed to do that

lol this was my first thought too

When I've gone in for jury duty the first thing the judge asks everyone is whether they have some kind of bias in regards to the justice system--either if you're related to DA or you're predisposed to not trust a cop. I'm sure telling the judge that you don't respect him personally will probably get you dropped like that.

I've always been hesitant to just up and say "I have a deeply rooted distrust of all cops" in a courtroom even though it's m/l true

https://frinkiac.com/meme/S04E06/714096.jpg?b64lines=IFRIRSBUUklDSyBJUyBUTyBTQVkKIFlPVSdSRSBQUkVKVURJQ0VEIEFHQUlOU1QKIEFMTCBSQUNFUy4=

Wow that Jez article indicates that the judge has form in this area, which makes it even more disgusting.

got into really aggravating fb arguments with friends over sentencing leniency and how this is really not the case to hang your hat on when it comes to the whole harsh-prison-sentences-are-bad thing.

there's this inherent grossness in how sex as a depersonalized act is both incentivized and demonized depending on context and who is involved

I have been disconnecting from so many media sources this week, made easier because I've been on vacation, but it's been gnawing away at the back of my mind.

sex isn't inherently good or bad. sex requires mutual consent and interest. the phrase "getting some action" or some variation thereof, which the rapist's father in this current case in the media used, is an indicator that there's some inherent value in one individual pursuing a sex act regardless of whether the other party can give consent, because it's somehow still an inherent good to that mindset even if you're perpetrating the act on someone who can't give consent, or has expressly denied consent.

there's something at the root to many of these cases that fall between what people see as pure acts of violence (which rape, at its root, is) and the supposed murkiness of drunken actions or mixed signals or whatever is used to brush a lack of communication under the rug

honestly, these things make me question my own past actions and those of people I know, as far as whether I had sex when I didn't necessarily want to because it's "what you do" when drunk and hooking up or w/e. and whether I misread cues or was the stereotypical man pushing and testing boundaries in some situations instead of backing off when it was clear I should have

I don't think we can continue to be lenient. but there needs to be some serious reflection in society when a number of people think that an act between two people where one person is praised and the other told they should be ashamed is normalized. we're still at the point where "got some action" and "shouldn't have let him" are the viewpoints of perpetrators and some of their authority figures are reinforcing that view

On the same day, on the same site:

http://wonkette.com/605534/teen-tennis-player-who-sexually-assaulted-autistic-girl-will-not-have-future-ruined-by-prison
It’s so weird how this keeps happening, right? You know, like it just happened with Brock Turner, and his beautiful future that no one wanted to dare ruin! Jeez, it is almost like if you are a white teen athlete, and you sexually assault someone, people are really concerned about how that might affect your future!
Read more at http://wonkette.com/605534/teen-tennis-player-who-sexually-assaulted-autistic-girl-will-not-have-future-ruined-by-prison#VWG0vX911mfLCGtW.99

http://wonkette.com/605513/lets-talk-about-juanita-broaddrick

can absolutely see Bill Clinton doing this (then, not now) and not even thinking of it as rape, but thinking of it as dominant, alpha sex. I can see a LOT of men doing that during that time period, before we started telling them in the ’80s, “hey, that is rape, do not do that.” I can see YOUR NICE GRANDPA doing that, back then.
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Rape is about power, not sex.” For those for whom it’s about power, those are the serial rapist guys, and they hate women and want to punish us. But I don’t think that’s in every case. I think good men can rape, and be sorry, and not do it again. This is very bad feminism.
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To sum up, I think Bill Clinton could very well have raped Juanita Broaddrick; that it doesn’t make him an evil man, or irredeemable (I’m Catholic; we’re all forgiven, if we’re sorry, and Broaddrick says Bill Clinton personally called her up to apologize). It doesn’t even necessarily make him a bad feminist — you know, later, once he stops doing that.

Thought this revive was going to be about Kurt Metzger.

http://www.dailydot.com/irl/kurt-metzger-sexual-assault-amy-schumer-twitter-block/

xpost that last half of the last sentence is worthy of the site being taken down.

Yeah I p much felt like wonkette should be deleted after I read that, especially coming from its publisher.

Also, as if it weren't enough "once he stops doing that," oh you mean other than the time he abused the oval office to have an affair with a young intern.

my alma mater, byu, finally getting into some hot water over this. way overdue. that place is a patriarchal cesspool.

and institutionally vulnerable because it's so opaque re: its retrograde policies about student bodies. i can't lie i'll be more gratified the more they get punished for it, but also if it leads to change in de-fanging the honor code it would have a real effect on hundreds of students who get caught in that horrible whirlpool every year.

This has to be fake, right?

https://twitter.com/realbrockturner

Brock Turner ‏@realbrockturner June 29
Loving the new #HeterosexualPrideDay hashtag! #Proud #Swimmer #Hetero

I'm pretty sure this is a troll account