Sex Pistols?

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Those are all on Kiss This

Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Thursday, 9 June 2016 07:28 (seven years ago) link

Yeah, main reason for investing in it.

Horizontal Superman is invulnerable (aldo), Thursday, 9 June 2016 08:35 (seven years ago) link

It also has the entire NMTB on it, so it's the only Sex Pistols I own.

Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Thursday, 9 June 2016 09:01 (seven years ago) link

five months pass...

Glen Matlock at tail end of a tour? Could be a good idea for next Friday night at the Phoenix Artists Club in London?

https://www.ticketsource.co.uk/event/EIKEEJ

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Friday, 18 November 2016 22:29 (seven years ago) link

two years pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eG7N9pFGqHM

MaresNest, Sunday, 1 September 2019 17:39 (four years ago) link

eleven months pass...

Comment from six months ago says Steve Jones had a heart attack.

Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 2 August 2020 04:45 (three years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMoJs2JSH9I

Stevolende, Sunday, 2 August 2020 07:55 (three years ago) link

Jones has been recovering, though it required emergency surgery and like any heart attack survivor, he's had to make some adjustments. Interview where he discusses life after his heart attack.

birdistheword, Sunday, 2 August 2020 20:50 (three years ago) link

one year passes...

Kinda sad re: his wife but also Lydon is sorta too online, for the worst.

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2022/jun/13/john-lydon-sex-pistols-johnny-rotten-danny-boyle-the-queen

xyzzzz__, Monday, 13 June 2022 10:29 (one year ago) link

Skimmed quickly. Nothing other than what I’ve come to expect.

The Crazy World of Encyclopedia Brown (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 13 June 2022 11:15 (one year ago) link

did anyone watch Pistol yet?

stirmonster, Monday, 13 June 2022 16:52 (one year ago) link

about halfway through. Watchable if you're not like totally hung up on historical accuracy and all like that.
I think I need to read the source book but have half wanted to for a while.
It's ok I guess, one of several things i'm trying to watch so not getting overly prioritised.

Stevolende, Monday, 13 June 2022 16:59 (one year ago) link

I think Chrissie Hynde reportedly watched and contacted Steve Jones, basically saying she was stunned how much they inflated and exaggerated both her relationship with Jones and her role in Sex Pistols lore.

birdistheword, Monday, 13 June 2022 17:02 (one year ago) link

the steve jones book is very readable

mark s, Monday, 13 June 2022 17:11 (one year ago) link

Viv Albertine's first book is really good and has a different perspective on some of the characters here than I've heard elsewhere. Sid actually seems human.
Might make an interesting series if people get into doing things like this. But definitely one of the best memoirs I've read, think not just of this era.
Jordan's was quite good too.
NOt sure about John's 2 and has been a while since I read them.

Stevolende, Monday, 13 June 2022 17:18 (one year ago) link

What about Glen Matlock’s book?

The Crazy World of Encyclopedia Brown (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 13 June 2022 17:21 (one year ago) link

xxxp kind of weird thing, in that Hynde was supposedly an advisor at some point, according to an article I read?

it did very much feel like they needed some hook to hang a second-party perspective on, and they decided to set her up as this lingering love interest/moral support for Jones's character

mh, Monday, 13 June 2022 17:21 (one year ago) link

Jones seems a much more sympathetic character than Lydon, for what that's worth. And I've always been impressed that he robbed Bowie's touring gear.

calzino, Monday, 13 June 2022 17:22 (one year ago) link

i thoroughly enjoyed Pistol although a big part of that was enjoying the level of detail the production design dept went to - eg the '75 Hawkwind gig Steve Jones was robbing equipment from, the interior of 'Sex', the 'Grundy' scene etc.

I think Chrissie Hynde reportedly watched and contacted Steve Jones, basically saying she was stunned how much they inflated and exaggerated both her relationship with Jones and her role in Sex Pistols lore.

i wondered about this as i had previously had no idea she had such a big role in the proceedings. i guess she didn't!

stirmonster, Monday, 13 June 2022 17:25 (one year ago) link

Her arse cheek is among those photographed in the Sex group photo I think.
& I know she was around trying to get bands together at the time. But yeah does seem to have had her role specific to teh Pistols increased i think.

Stevolende, Monday, 13 June 2022 17:29 (one year ago) link

she did work at sex alongside jordan and was for a time an item w/jones -- who clearly holds her in much affection and says they remain (as of 2017) on good terms. he also says it's why sid attacked a subsequent hynde bf who (acc.jones) treated her badly = nick kent. so there is a kind of a beefable-uppable plot throughline

mark s, Monday, 13 June 2022 17:32 (one year ago) link

the wild thing about that Lydon interview that xyzzzz__ posted is that he sounds exactly like the character in the show

mh, Monday, 13 June 2022 17:33 (one year ago) link

xp definitely. Jones admitted as much saying they "showbizzed up" her role to make the show more "interesting." They were definitely a couple but for a very brief time. I won't spoil the show for anyone, but it also shows her having a big role in some significant events when she had absolutely no involvement whatsoever.

birdistheword, Monday, 13 June 2022 17:46 (one year ago) link

"We'll always have Huddersfield"

indeed!

calzino, Monday, 13 June 2022 17:53 (one year ago) link

I'm surprised Boyle has managed to make something quite fun and watchable out of this. He even includes a scene where McLaren seals his own fate by bashing holes into some asbestos tiles, which was kind of simultaneously grim and lol!

calzino, Monday, 13 June 2022 18:02 (one year ago) link

I had a brief "oh god, is that.." moment when noticing who was cast as Vivienne Westwood

yes, that is Talulah Riley who was married to Elon Musk, twice!

kind of funny that she's playing a character who's partnered with huckster and sensationalist Malcom McLaren

mh, Monday, 13 June 2022 19:01 (one year ago) link

I know old John has endorsed Trump and all, and may be too much with us in other ways, but, as someone who's seen other people deal with this, and done so myself, may have to do so again, I can see he's learned some things:

John Lydon said his mental health took a beating over the last three years spent caring full-time for his 78-year-old wife.

Of his days spent feeding, dressing and caring for her, the 65-year-old admitted: “You can as a full-time carer get quite suicidal. I will have moments that are overwhelmingly sad and at the same time full of rage.

“You have to get to grips with it and lay off the self-pity. That’s one thing I can proudly say my mum and dad instilled in me from an early age: don’t feel sorry for yourself, get on with it.”

He has this advice for others caring for people with dementia: "Keep yourself intact mentally and be proud of what you’re doing. Life must continue to the absolute; you must fight for life to the very bitter end.

“This is how the cards have fallen. This is what it is. This is your future. But that’s not the end of your future."


https://www.homecare.co.uk/news/article.cfm/id/1648120/Sex-Pistols-John-Lydon-became-wifes-carer-after-dementia-made-her-forget-everything-but-me

dow, Monday, 13 June 2022 19:10 (one year ago) link

Halfway through the series and enjoying it, I mean it's basically The Young Ones, but it's a lot of fun.

Only nitpicking this because it is an oddly weird and specific detail about poor Pete Ham from Badfinger having hung himself in the lock-up in Denmark Mews, pretty sure that's not correct.

Maresn3st, Wednesday, 15 June 2022 17:20 (one year ago) link

i googled that while watching that episode and fwiw the internet thinks it is correct, although it didn't specify it was the exact same lock-up.

stirmonster, Wednesday, 15 June 2022 17:33 (one year ago) link

I find this very funny pic.twitter.com/RC2XIuBKnf

— Michael M (@michaelmphysics) June 15, 2022

Chris L, Wednesday, 15 June 2022 17:34 (one year ago) link

Got the band confused, that's the Stooges did that.

Stevolende, Wednesday, 15 June 2022 22:36 (one year ago) link

Or that is to say that there is a story repeated in a number of places that the Stooges filled a US highway with the contents of their equipment van by doing that. Picking a bridge too low to accommodate the height of the truck at speed.

Roger Moore does even worse to a bus in Live and Let Die too.

Stevolende, Wednesday, 15 June 2022 23:09 (one year ago) link

LMAO.

Also, it's pretty fucking bizarre to see the Disney logo attached to the Sex Pistols and not be a joke like Who Killed Bambi?.

birdistheword, Wednesday, 15 June 2022 23:09 (one year ago) link

We found out who killed Bambi...

Shush! No spoilers please!

Jimmy Jimmy Loves Mary-Anne Mary-Anne (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 15 June 2022 23:51 (one year ago) link

after all, it was you and me

assert (matttkkkk), Thursday, 16 June 2022 00:23 (one year ago) link

double-decker bus

Creature Catcher (Live) (morrisp), Thursday, 16 June 2022 00:30 (one year ago) link

Started watching

Jimmy Jimmy Loves Mary-Anne Mary-Anne (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 16 June 2022 01:41 (one year ago) link

i am only couple eps in and it is the dumbest fun I have had in a while

like veracity & timelines are loose to nonexistent but the ~vibes~ are v good idk i am enjoying it more than i expected

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 16 June 2022 03:34 (one year ago) link

Xp did think the same re Disney logo. Then thought well they own everything now don't they. Or something to that effect.

Might lead one to think the veracity of the show was more fairytale or sumfin.

But it is watchable.

& Young Ones had just been mentioned so yeah made that connection too.

Was this filmed in Cardiff or just being promoted there? There's a sign towards the beginning.

Stevolende, Thursday, 16 June 2022 04:18 (one year ago) link

Might lead one to think the veracity of the show was more fairytale or sumfin.

The Pistols are all Disney Princes now.

The amount of cgi alteration of the period streetscapes is kinda mind-boggling too.

They used one of my favourite little buildings in London as Glitterbest's offices (Elms Lesters Painting Rooms) but they changed the frontage and made it look even grottier - it's already in a little narrow back passage -

Maresn3st, Thursday, 16 June 2022 09:47 (one year ago) link

two months pass...

predictably

Rest in Peace Queen Elizabeth II.

Send her victorious.

From all at https://t.co/vK2Du0ZzDS pic.twitter.com/kq4M6WfeML

— John Lydon Official (@lydonofficial) September 9, 2022

link.exposing.politically (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 10 September 2022 08:54 (one year ago) link

ever get the etc

Left, Saturday, 10 September 2022 10:59 (one year ago) link

trying to parse out why this is still vaguely bothersome to me since it's totally unsurprising and afaict even at the time all but the most naive (proto-anarcho-punks on one side and i assume some outraged tories on the other) always knew from the start that their bit was all provocation with no follow through

some sense that this kind of provocation has either been fully incorporated or is now totally beyond the pale, depending on who it's from and what it's about? or just romantic nostalgia for some third hand mythology i absorbed about punk and how radical it was? since it was made clear to me that no other cultural moment could ever measure up to it. and this is what it amounts to?

Left, Saturday, 10 September 2022 11:26 (one year ago) link

"fascism is so cool and edgy"

Johnny Rotten of The Sex Pistols pic.twitter.com/u8v8KFUn7N

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) June 4, 2022

The 25 Best Songs Ever Ranked In Order (Deflatormouse), Saturday, 10 September 2022 14:55 (one year ago) link

give a middle finger to the establishment by wanking over her maj

nm I know I lose this game by even responding

at least I don't have to hear people who know better defending "bodies" these days

Left, Saturday, 10 September 2022 15:43 (one year ago) link

PIL's Facebook post:

God Save The Queen

John Lydon wishes to distance himself from any Sex Pistols activity which aims to cash in on Queen Elizabeth II's death. The musicians in the band and their management have approved a number of requests against John's wishes on the basis of the majority court-ruling agreement.

In John's view, the timing for endorsing any Sex Pistols requests for commercial gain in connection with 'God Save The Queen' in particular is tasteless and disrespectful to the Queen and her family at this moment in time.

John wrote the lyrics to this historical song, and while he has never supported the monarchy, he feels that the family deserves some respect in this difficult time, as would be expected for any other person or family when someone close to them has died.

birdistheword, Thursday, 15 September 2022 15:26 (one year ago) link

six months pass...

RIP Nora Forster. John always repped for her in interviews, clearly his guiding light.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Friday, 7 April 2023 14:29 (one year ago) link


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