The other day I heard Did You No Wrong for the first time, they played it on satellite radio. I had no idea it even existed. What a fantastic song.
― kornrulez6969, Thursday, 9 June 2016 00:59 (seven years ago) link
Yes, its a not of a lost b-side. Also "Sattelite" which didn't even make it to the "Flogging a dead horse" singles album for some reason.
― Mark G, Thursday, 9 June 2016 06:38 (seven years ago) link
Yes, it's a bit of a lost etc.
― Mark G, Thursday, 9 June 2016 06:39 (seven years ago) link
it's always bugged me that it's so hard to come by the handful of "real" sex pistols tracks that aren't on NMTB (i.e., sung by lydon, studio-recorded): "i wanna be me," "satellite," "no fun," "did you no wrong." those are fantastic performances that should've been tacked onto the one real album at some point as bonus tracks, not scattered across a bunch of crummy ripoff albums among those shitty ronnie biggs singles and malcolm mclaren spoken word tracks or whatever.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 9 June 2016 07:17 (seven years ago) link
Those are all on Kiss This
― Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Thursday, 9 June 2016 07:28 (seven years ago) link
Yeah, main reason for investing in it.
― Horizontal Superman is invulnerable (aldo), Thursday, 9 June 2016 08:35 (seven years ago) link
It also has the entire NMTB on it, so it's the only Sex Pistols I own.
― Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Thursday, 9 June 2016 09:01 (seven years ago) link
Glen Matlock at tail end of a tour? Could be a good idea for next Friday night at the Phoenix Artists Club in London?
https://www.ticketsource.co.uk/event/EIKEEJ
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Friday, 18 November 2016 22:29 (seven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eG7N9pFGqHM
― MaresNest, Sunday, 1 September 2019 17:39 (four years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiUKJF16HZ4
― Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 2 August 2020 04:44 (three years ago) link
Comment from six months ago says Steve Jones had a heart attack.
― Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 2 August 2020 04:45 (three years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMoJs2JSH9I
― Stevolende, Sunday, 2 August 2020 07:55 (three years ago) link
Jones has been recovering, though it required emergency surgery and like any heart attack survivor, he's had to make some adjustments. Interview where he discusses life after his heart attack.
― birdistheword, Sunday, 2 August 2020 20:50 (three years ago) link
Kinda sad re: his wife but also Lydon is sorta too online, for the worst.
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2022/jun/13/john-lydon-sex-pistols-johnny-rotten-danny-boyle-the-queen
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 13 June 2022 10:29 (one year ago) link
Skimmed quickly. Nothing other than what I’ve come to expect.
― The Crazy World of Encyclopedia Brown (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 13 June 2022 11:15 (one year ago) link
did anyone watch Pistol yet?
― stirmonster, Monday, 13 June 2022 16:52 (one year ago) link
about halfway through. Watchable if you're not like totally hung up on historical accuracy and all like that.I think I need to read the source book but have half wanted to for a while.It's ok I guess, one of several things i'm trying to watch so not getting overly prioritised.
― Stevolende, Monday, 13 June 2022 16:59 (one year ago) link
I think Chrissie Hynde reportedly watched and contacted Steve Jones, basically saying she was stunned how much they inflated and exaggerated both her relationship with Jones and her role in Sex Pistols lore.
― birdistheword, Monday, 13 June 2022 17:02 (one year ago) link
the steve jones book is very readable
― mark s, Monday, 13 June 2022 17:11 (one year ago) link
Viv Albertine's first book is really good and has a different perspective on some of the characters here than I've heard elsewhere. Sid actually seems human.Might make an interesting series if people get into doing things like this. But definitely one of the best memoirs I've read, think not just of this era. Jordan's was quite good too. NOt sure about John's 2 and has been a while since I read them.
― Stevolende, Monday, 13 June 2022 17:18 (one year ago) link
What about Glen Matlock’s book?
― The Crazy World of Encyclopedia Brown (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 13 June 2022 17:21 (one year ago) link
xxxp kind of weird thing, in that Hynde was supposedly an advisor at some point, according to an article I read?
it did very much feel like they needed some hook to hang a second-party perspective on, and they decided to set her up as this lingering love interest/moral support for Jones's character
― mh, Monday, 13 June 2022 17:21 (one year ago) link
Jones seems a much more sympathetic character than Lydon, for what that's worth. And I've always been impressed that he robbed Bowie's touring gear.
― calzino, Monday, 13 June 2022 17:22 (one year ago) link
i thoroughly enjoyed Pistol although a big part of that was enjoying the level of detail the production design dept went to - eg the '75 Hawkwind gig Steve Jones was robbing equipment from, the interior of 'Sex', the 'Grundy' scene etc.
i wondered about this as i had previously had no idea she had such a big role in the proceedings. i guess she didn't!
― stirmonster, Monday, 13 June 2022 17:25 (one year ago) link
Her arse cheek is among those photographed in the Sex group photo I think. & I know she was around trying to get bands together at the time. But yeah does seem to have had her role specific to teh Pistols increased i think.
― Stevolende, Monday, 13 June 2022 17:29 (one year ago) link
she did work at sex alongside jordan and was for a time an item w/jones -- who clearly holds her in much affection and says they remain (as of 2017) on good terms. he also says it's why sid attacked a subsequent hynde bf who (acc.jones) treated her badly = nick kent. so there is a kind of a beefable-uppable plot throughline
― mark s, Monday, 13 June 2022 17:32 (one year ago) link
the wild thing about that Lydon interview that xyzzzz__ posted is that he sounds exactly like the character in the show
― mh, Monday, 13 June 2022 17:33 (one year ago) link
xp definitely. Jones admitted as much saying they "showbizzed up" her role to make the show more "interesting." They were definitely a couple but for a very brief time. I won't spoil the show for anyone, but it also shows her having a big role in some significant events when she had absolutely no involvement whatsoever.
― birdistheword, Monday, 13 June 2022 17:46 (one year ago) link
"We'll always have Huddersfield"
indeed!
― calzino, Monday, 13 June 2022 17:53 (one year ago) link
I'm surprised Boyle has managed to make something quite fun and watchable out of this. He even includes a scene where McLaren seals his own fate by bashing holes into some asbestos tiles, which was kind of simultaneously grim and lol!
― calzino, Monday, 13 June 2022 18:02 (one year ago) link
I had a brief "oh god, is that.." moment when noticing who was cast as Vivienne Westwood
yes, that is Talulah Riley who was married to Elon Musk, twice!
kind of funny that she's playing a character who's partnered with huckster and sensationalist Malcom McLaren
― mh, Monday, 13 June 2022 19:01 (one year ago) link
I know old John has endorsed Trump and all, and may be too much with us in other ways, but, as someone who's seen other people deal with this, and done so myself, may have to do so again, I can see he's learned some things:
John Lydon said his mental health took a beating over the last three years spent caring full-time for his 78-year-old wife.Of his days spent feeding, dressing and caring for her, the 65-year-old admitted: “You can as a full-time carer get quite suicidal. I will have moments that are overwhelmingly sad and at the same time full of rage.“You have to get to grips with it and lay off the self-pity. That’s one thing I can proudly say my mum and dad instilled in me from an early age: don’t feel sorry for yourself, get on with it.”He has this advice for others caring for people with dementia: "Keep yourself intact mentally and be proud of what you’re doing. Life must continue to the absolute; you must fight for life to the very bitter end.“This is how the cards have fallen. This is what it is. This is your future. But that’s not the end of your future."
Of his days spent feeding, dressing and caring for her, the 65-year-old admitted: “You can as a full-time carer get quite suicidal. I will have moments that are overwhelmingly sad and at the same time full of rage.
“You have to get to grips with it and lay off the self-pity. That’s one thing I can proudly say my mum and dad instilled in me from an early age: don’t feel sorry for yourself, get on with it.”
He has this advice for others caring for people with dementia: "Keep yourself intact mentally and be proud of what you’re doing. Life must continue to the absolute; you must fight for life to the very bitter end.
“This is how the cards have fallen. This is what it is. This is your future. But that’s not the end of your future."
― dow, Monday, 13 June 2022 19:10 (one year ago) link
Halfway through the series and enjoying it, I mean it's basically The Young Ones, but it's a lot of fun.
Only nitpicking this because it is an oddly weird and specific detail about poor Pete Ham from Badfinger having hung himself in the lock-up in Denmark Mews, pretty sure that's not correct.
― Maresn3st, Wednesday, 15 June 2022 17:20 (one year ago) link
i googled that while watching that episode and fwiw the internet thinks it is correct, although it didn't specify it was the exact same lock-up.
― stirmonster, Wednesday, 15 June 2022 17:33 (one year ago) link
I find this very funny pic.twitter.com/RC2XIuBKnf— Michael M (@michaelmphysics) June 15, 2022
― Chris L, Wednesday, 15 June 2022 17:34 (one year ago) link
Got the band confused, that's the Stooges did that.
― Stevolende, Wednesday, 15 June 2022 22:36 (one year ago) link
Or that is to say that there is a story repeated in a number of places that the Stooges filled a US highway with the contents of their equipment van by doing that. Picking a bridge too low to accommodate the height of the truck at speed.
Roger Moore does even worse to a bus in Live and Let Die too.
― Stevolende, Wednesday, 15 June 2022 23:09 (one year ago) link
LMAO.
Also, it's pretty fucking bizarre to see the Disney logo attached to the Sex Pistols and not be a joke like Who Killed Bambi?.
― birdistheword, Wednesday, 15 June 2022 23:09 (one year ago) link
We found out who killed Bambi...
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 15 June 2022 23:11 (one year ago) link
Shush! No spoilers please!
― Jimmy Jimmy Loves Mary-Anne Mary-Anne (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 15 June 2022 23:51 (one year ago) link
after all, it was you and me
― assert (matttkkkk), Thursday, 16 June 2022 00:23 (one year ago) link
double-decker bus
― Creature Catcher (Live) (morrisp), Thursday, 16 June 2022 00:30 (one year ago) link
Started watching
― Jimmy Jimmy Loves Mary-Anne Mary-Anne (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 16 June 2022 01:41 (one year ago) link
i am only couple eps in and it is the dumbest fun I have had in a whilelike veracity & timelines are loose to nonexistent but the ~vibes~ are v good idk i am enjoying it more than i expected
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 16 June 2022 03:34 (one year ago) link
Xp did think the same re Disney logo. Then thought well they own everything now don't they. Or something to that effect.
Might lead one to think the veracity of the show was more fairytale or sumfin.
But it is watchable.
& Young Ones had just been mentioned so yeah made that connection too.
Was this filmed in Cardiff or just being promoted there? There's a sign towards the beginning.
― Stevolende, Thursday, 16 June 2022 04:18 (one year ago) link
The Pistols are all Disney Princes now.
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 16 June 2022 04:53 (one year ago) link
The amount of cgi alteration of the period streetscapes is kinda mind-boggling too.
They used one of my favourite little buildings in London as Glitterbest's offices (Elms Lesters Painting Rooms) but they changed the frontage and made it look even grottier - it's already in a little narrow back passage -
― Maresn3st, Thursday, 16 June 2022 09:47 (one year ago) link
predictably
Rest in Peace Queen Elizabeth II.Send her victorious.From all at https://t.co/vK2Du0ZzDS pic.twitter.com/kq4M6WfeML— John Lydon Official (@lydonofficial) September 9, 2022
― link.exposing.politically (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 10 September 2022 08:54 (one year ago) link
ever get the etc
― Left, Saturday, 10 September 2022 10:59 (one year ago) link
trying to parse out why this is still vaguely bothersome to me since it's totally unsurprising and afaict even at the time all but the most naive (proto-anarcho-punks on one side and i assume some outraged tories on the other) always knew from the start that their bit was all provocation with no follow through
some sense that this kind of provocation has either been fully incorporated or is now totally beyond the pale, depending on who it's from and what it's about? or just romantic nostalgia for some third hand mythology i absorbed about punk and how radical it was? since it was made clear to me that no other cultural moment could ever measure up to it. and this is what it amounts to?
― Left, Saturday, 10 September 2022 11:26 (one year ago) link