Sex Pistols?

New vinyl boxset of 1976 concerts:
4th June – 1976: Lesser Free Trade Hall, Manchester
29th August – 1976: Screen on the Green, Islington
17th September 1976: HM Prison, Chelmsford
25th September – 1976: 76 Club, Burton on Trent

Probably no band ever been so well documented live (except Grateful Dead obv) so for diehards only I guess. First two mostly for historical documentation purposes. Chelmsford recording is great quality - the best recording of the Matlock era, and I don't think has been officially released with all it's tracks in the right order and without overdubs (but probably has), so that's good.

The 4cd box is £30, which seems steep..

Oh, didn't notice it was on CD. That's better. But yeah, silly price for CDs considering everyone who's likely to care has already heard it all before.

The other day I heard Did You No Wrong for the first time, they played it on satellite radio. I had no idea it even existed. What a fantastic song.

Yes, its a not of a lost b-side. Also "Sattelite" which didn't even make it to the "Flogging a dead horse" singles album for some reason.

Yes, it's a bit of a lost etc.

it's always bugged me that it's so hard to come by the handful of "real" sex pistols tracks that aren't on NMTB (i.e., sung by lydon, studio-recorded): "i wanna be me," "satellite," "no fun," "did you no wrong." those are fantastic performances that should've been tacked onto the one real album at some point as bonus tracks, not scattered across a bunch of crummy ripoff albums among those shitty ronnie biggs singles and malcolm mclaren spoken word tracks or whatever.

Those are all on Kiss This

Yeah, main reason for investing in it.

It also has the entire NMTB on it, so it's the only Sex Pistols I own.

Glen Matlock at tail end of a tour? Could be a good idea for next Friday night at the Phoenix Artists Club in London?

https://www.ticketsource.co.uk/event/EIKEEJ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eG7N9pFGqHM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiUKJF16HZ4

Comment from six months ago says Steve Jones had a heart attack.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMoJs2JSH9I

Jones has been recovering, though it required emergency surgery and like any heart attack survivor, he's had to make some adjustments. Interview where he discusses life after his heart attack.

Kinda sad re: his wife but also Lydon is sorta too online, for the worst.

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2022/jun/13/john-lydon-sex-pistols-johnny-rotten-danny-boyle-the-queen

Skimmed quickly. Nothing other than what I’ve come to expect.

did anyone watch Pistol yet?

about halfway through. Watchable if you're not like totally hung up on historical accuracy and all like that.
I think I need to read the source book but have half wanted to for a while.
It's ok I guess, one of several things i'm trying to watch so not getting overly prioritised.

I think Chrissie Hynde reportedly watched and contacted Steve Jones, basically saying she was stunned how much they inflated and exaggerated both her relationship with Jones and her role in Sex Pistols lore.

the steve jones book is very readable

Viv Albertine's first book is really good and has a different perspective on some of the characters here than I've heard elsewhere. Sid actually seems human.
Might make an interesting series if people get into doing things like this. But definitely one of the best memoirs I've read, think not just of this era.
Jordan's was quite good too.
NOt sure about John's 2 and has been a while since I read them.

What about Glen Matlock’s book?

xxxp kind of weird thing, in that Hynde was supposedly an advisor at some point, according to an article I read?

it did very much feel like they needed some hook to hang a second-party perspective on, and they decided to set her up as this lingering love interest/moral support for Jones's character

Jones seems a much more sympathetic character than Lydon, for what that's worth. And I've always been impressed that he robbed Bowie's touring gear.

i thoroughly enjoyed Pistol although a big part of that was enjoying the level of detail the production design dept went to - eg the '75 Hawkwind gig Steve Jones was robbing equipment from, the interior of 'Sex', the 'Grundy' scene etc.

I think Chrissie Hynde reportedly watched and contacted Steve Jones, basically saying she was stunned how much they inflated and exaggerated both her relationship with Jones and her role in Sex Pistols lore.

i wondered about this as i had previously had no idea she had such a big role in the proceedings. i guess she didn't!

Her arse cheek is among those photographed in the Sex group photo I think.
& I know she was around trying to get bands together at the time. But yeah does seem to have had her role specific to teh Pistols increased i think.

she did work at sex alongside jordan and was for a time an item w/jones -- who clearly holds her in much affection and says they remain (as of 2017) on good terms. he also says it's why sid attacked a subsequent hynde bf who (acc.jones) treated her badly = nick kent. so there is a kind of a beefable-uppable plot throughline

the wild thing about that Lydon interview that xyzzzz__ posted is that he sounds exactly like the character in the show

xp definitely. Jones admitted as much saying they "showbizzed up" her role to make the show more "interesting." They were definitely a couple but for a very brief time. I won't spoil the show for anyone, but it also shows her having a big role in some significant events when she had absolutely no involvement whatsoever.

"We'll always have Huddersfield"

indeed!

I'm surprised Boyle has managed to make something quite fun and watchable out of this. He even includes a scene where McLaren seals his own fate by bashing holes into some asbestos tiles, which was kind of simultaneously grim and lol!

I had a brief "oh god, is that.." moment when noticing who was cast as Vivienne Westwood

yes, that is Talulah Riley who was married to Elon Musk, twice!

kind of funny that she's playing a character who's partnered with huckster and sensationalist Malcom McLaren

I know old John has endorsed Trump and all, and may be too much with us in other ways, but, as someone who's seen other people deal with this, and done so myself, may have to do so again, I can see he's learned some things:

John Lydon said his mental health took a beating over the last three years spent caring full-time for his 78-year-old wife.

Of his days spent feeding, dressing and caring for her, the 65-year-old admitted: “You can as a full-time carer get quite suicidal. I will have moments that are overwhelmingly sad and at the same time full of rage.

“You have to get to grips with it and lay off the self-pity. That’s one thing I can proudly say my mum and dad instilled in me from an early age: don’t feel sorry for yourself, get on with it.”

He has this advice for others caring for people with dementia: "Keep yourself intact mentally and be proud of what you’re doing. Life must continue to the absolute; you must fight for life to the very bitter end.

“This is how the cards have fallen. This is what it is. This is your future. But that’s not the end of your future."

Halfway through the series and enjoying it, I mean it's basically The Young Ones, but it's a lot of fun.

Only nitpicking this because it is an oddly weird and specific detail about poor Pete Ham from Badfinger having hung himself in the lock-up in Denmark Mews, pretty sure that's not correct.

i googled that while watching that episode and fwiw the internet thinks it is correct, although it didn't specify it was the exact same lock-up.

I find this very funny pic.twitter.com/RC2XIuBKnf

— Michael M (@michaelmphysics) June 15, 2022

Got the band confused, that's the Stooges did that.

Or that is to say that there is a story repeated in a number of places that the Stooges filled a US highway with the contents of their equipment van by doing that. Picking a bridge too low to accommodate the height of the truck at speed.

Roger Moore does even worse to a bus in Live and Let Die too.

LMAO.

Also, it's pretty fucking bizarre to see the Disney logo attached to the Sex Pistols and not be a joke like Who Killed Bambi?.

We found out who killed Bambi...

Shush! No spoilers please!

after all, it was you and me

double-decker bus

Started watching

i am only couple eps in and it is the dumbest fun I have had in a while

like veracity & timelines are loose to nonexistent but the ~vibes~ are v good idk i am enjoying it more than i expected

Xp did think the same re Disney logo. Then thought well they own everything now don't they. Or something to that effect.

Might lead one to think the veracity of the show was more fairytale or sumfin.

But it is watchable.

& Young Ones had just been mentioned so yeah made that connection too.

Was this filmed in Cardiff or just being promoted there? There's a sign towards the beginning.

Might lead one to think the veracity of the show was more fairytale or sumfin.

The Pistols are all Disney Princes now.

The amount of cgi alteration of the period streetscapes is kinda mind-boggling too.

They used one of my favourite little buildings in London as Glitterbest's offices (Elms Lesters Painting Rooms) but they changed the frontage and made it look even grottier - it's already in a little narrow back passage -