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in order, based on memory rather than hearing them recently - rainbow children, 3121, art official, musicology, MPLS sound, 20 ten, planet earth. never heard the NPGMC compilations, and didnt care much for the third eye girl projects. NEWS is a masterclass in why prince shouldnt make jazz albums.

StillAdvance, Wednesday, 8 June 2016 12:17 (seven years ago) link

What do u think of The War and Lotusflower?

scarcity festival (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 8 June 2016 12:20 (seven years ago) link

while DJing on Sunday i was randomly playing Play In The Sunshine as it was outdoors and scorching hot. a guy came up and we chatted about Prince and turns out he had the symbol tat and saw him '21 times' on his London residency in 2007. i said i'd not really heard much that he'd done since the early 90s and straight off he recommended "3121 and The Rainbow Children". so that's what an ultra-hardcore fan thinks anyway.

piscesx, Wednesday, 8 June 2016 12:23 (seven years ago) link

xpost - i dont remember lotusflower that well which is why i only listed MPLS sound (basically 00s prince doing 80s prince), but it might be decent, not sure. i only remember crimson and clover. the war was just a 40 min long song. i dunno, i remember it being sort of band of gypsies/santana-psych-dreamy-jam sounding with prince in one of his lecturing modes on top (reminds me of something from the gold experience era). i wouldnt mind seeing what its like now.

StillAdvance, Wednesday, 8 June 2016 14:07 (seven years ago) link

robert glasper does SOTT -

https://soundcloud.com/robertglasper/robert-glasper-trio-sign-of-the-times-unmastered

StillAdvance, Wednesday, 8 June 2016 14:53 (seven years ago) link

3121 and MPLS sound are my favorites

Dierks Bentley's Holistic Detective Agency (some dude), Wednesday, 8 June 2016 15:00 (seven years ago) link

ty, sa, digging the robert glasper track

the world over the crotch. (contenderizer), Wednesday, 8 June 2016 15:02 (seven years ago) link

funny background on the SOTT cover on soundcloud -

This is a arrangement I recorded in 2015 as part of my "Covered" album. Unfortunately we were not allowed to put in on the album..Prince didn't really like people recording his music lol..But I feel now is a good time to let everyone hear it! This is my favorite prince joint "Sign O The Times"..the message is still relevant..Prince you are missed..Thank you for unapologetically being you..

he seemed to be really inconsistent in who got to cover his songs (and when), and who didnt.

StillAdvance, Wednesday, 8 June 2016 15:06 (seven years ago) link

Enjoying that glasper, thanks!

De La Soul is no Major Lazer (ulysses), Wednesday, 8 June 2016 16:08 (seven years ago) link

are there any instances of Prince blocking a cover earlier than Elvis Costello in 1997? it seems like that was the beginning of it becoming a common practice for him in the 2000s.

Dierks Bentley's Holistic Detective Agency (some dude), Wednesday, 8 June 2016 17:08 (seven years ago) link

although i'm sure he blocked a lot of samples after letting a couple early ones like MC Hammer and Arrested Development go ahead

Dierks Bentley's Holistic Detective Agency (some dude), Wednesday, 8 June 2016 17:09 (seven years ago) link

2pac sampled (or replayed) pop life. and i think he sampled the end of darling nikki too. so that was allowed for whatever reason. i remember him saying he got a lot of requests around the time of emancipation, but whether that was really true, or he just blocked them all, im not sure.

StillAdvance, Wednesday, 8 June 2016 17:18 (seven years ago) link

'96 was definitely when samples of '80s R&B and pop were taking over mainstream rap so that makes sense, there probably would've been a few Bad Boy smashes with Prince samples if he said yes moer

Dierks Bentley's Holistic Detective Agency (some dude), Wednesday, 8 June 2016 17:21 (seven years ago) link

yeah, i could def imagine puffy reworking stuff like when doves cry or looping some of the time stuff even. biggie's nasty girl im sure was meant to have a vanity sample. would u die 4 me sounds obviously like it was meant to have a sample of kiss too. there were quite a few R&B covers of his songs around that time also, obv.

StillAdvance, Wednesday, 8 June 2016 17:26 (seven years ago) link

for you tidal peeps :

http://www.nme.com/news/prince/94026🔗


Bummer – my 30 day trial of Tidal (started bc of Prince) just ended last week.

Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 8 June 2016 19:22 (seven years ago) link

i mean, you can pay for another month of Tidal, or spend that money on one or two of the Prince albums they have. it's a choice, i guess!

Dierks Bentley's Holistic Detective Agency (some dude), Wednesday, 8 June 2016 19:46 (seven years ago) link

2pac sampled (or replayed) pop life. and i think he sampled the end of darling nikki too. so that was allowed for whatever reason.

I assume the reason is Shock G

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 8 June 2016 20:11 (seven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jondJ6aj8ao

StillAdvance, Thursday, 9 June 2016 16:47 (seven years ago) link

Odd that Cindy Crawford didn't do "Cindy C", he wrote her a song for crissakes! Honor that!

I watched Graffiti Bridge last night, hooboy that does NOT hold up. Tho the music does of course.

De La Soul is no Major Lazer (ulysses), Thursday, 9 June 2016 17:12 (seven years ago) link

Wanna see Nelson George sing "Bob George."

Half Man Half Disco Mystic (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 9 June 2016 17:14 (seven years ago) link

http://www.winmau.com/userdata/PRODPIC-1418.jpg

Larry 'Leg' Smith (Tom D.), Thursday, 9 June 2016 17:18 (seven years ago) link

... Americans won't know who he is :((((

Larry 'Leg' Smith (Tom D.), Thursday, 9 June 2016 17:19 (seven years ago) link

xp incidentally, before i searched for that piece, I didn't know CJ liked the song. Unflattering or not, it's a killer jam; I woulda been hyped about it too.

De La Soul is no Major Lazer (ulysses), Thursday, 9 June 2016 17:22 (seven years ago) link

Haha I am going to a friends to watch graffiti bridge tonight, as it happens

scarcity festival (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 9 June 2016 19:57 (seven years ago) link

it actually has some creepy prince moments, which i was not aware was possible but there's a sequence when prince takes the unconscious aura and sorta tries to peek at her breasts
also prince's chest hair is shaved into a heart with words in the middle that say "beat me"
it's a weird fucking movie

De La Soul is no Major Lazer (ulysses), Thursday, 9 June 2016 20:03 (seven years ago) link

i mean the crux of the story is that morris day is the tough guy pimp. he is not very frightening.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIvPmwse0Iw
all the songs are truncated. you are likely better off listening to the album.

De La Soul is no Major Lazer (ulysses), Thursday, 9 June 2016 20:05 (seven years ago) link

or maybe just watch his deathless ode to premature ejaculation, "tick tick bang" which is more or less the high point
http://videos.sapo.pt/kzov52IzQ8LeezGKV428

De La Soul is no Major Lazer (ulysses), Thursday, 9 June 2016 20:07 (seven years ago) link

Odd that Cindy Crawford didn't do "Cindy C", he wrote her a song for crissakes! Honor that!

I assume she maybe doesn't dig being portrayed as a whore...?

Οὖτις, Thursday, 9 June 2016 20:21 (seven years ago) link

my favorite part of Graffiti Bridge is the soundstage the bridge is on

Οὖτις, Thursday, 9 June 2016 20:22 (seven years ago) link

i have the Cherry Moon dvd waiting at liberry

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 9 June 2016 20:29 (seven years ago) link

I found the *trailer* for UtCM hard to get through.

rhymes with "blondie blast" (cryptosicko), Thursday, 9 June 2016 21:25 (seven years ago) link

Lol.

Half Man Half Disco Mystic (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 10 June 2016 00:21 (seven years ago) link

The "Mountains" video is fun though.

Half Man Half Disco Mystic (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 10 June 2016 00:28 (seven years ago) link

it's weird to think how differently things would've been if Prince DID have success in film after Purple Rain. like would he have just become Elvis, doing an endless series of goofy musicals? would he have transitioned into dramatic roles and, like, played the Jeff Goldblum part in Jurassic Park or something?

Dierks Bentley's Holistic Detective Agency (some dude), Friday, 10 June 2016 00:36 (seven years ago) link

Would like to contemplate this, but can't stop thinking about Leiber & Stoller getting frozen out as songwriters for Elvis by Colonel Tom and the Aberbachs after recommending to the King that he stretch his acting chops by accepting the lead in a film of Nelson Algren's A Walk on the Wild Side.

Half Man Half Disco Mystic (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 10 June 2016 01:02 (seven years ago) link

Graffiti Bridge.

It is terrible, but in an interesting pre-verbal way. There's a lot of delightful clothes to look at. Prince's hair is really awful though, one of his few dud looks. I love the stagey compressed sets for Seven Corners and the Bridge. I have no idea what happened in several scenes of this movie.

scarcity festival (Jon not Jon), Friday, 10 June 2016 03:43 (seven years ago) link

GB is one of those films where, rather than stamp out bootlegs, prince should have dedicated his crack team of 'sharp female lawyers' to destroying all available copies and prints. all that should remain of that film is the soundtrack, and the poster, which i quite like.

StillAdvance, Friday, 10 June 2016 09:30 (seven years ago) link

the original early 80s rockabilly version of tick tick bang is better than the GB version for anyone who likes that one.

StillAdvance, Friday, 10 June 2016 09:30 (seven years ago) link

No it's not, I've heard both and I prefer the GB version.

Tuomas, Friday, 10 June 2016 11:00 (seven years ago) link

glad thats settled then.

StillAdvance, Friday, 10 June 2016 11:28 (seven years ago) link

I love the Under the Cherry Moon and have never cared who know it. This is a great defense of it: http://notcoming.com/reviews/underthecherrymoon/

stop torturing me ethel (broom air), Friday, 10 June 2016 15:17 (seven years ago) link

Prince's hair is really awful though, one of his few dud looks.

lol this is so true and was much remarked upon at our last rewatch. That terrible stubble goatee

Οὖτις, Friday, 10 June 2016 15:32 (seven years ago) link

i like UTCM too

that notcoming website has a really good layout.

StillAdvance, Friday, 10 June 2016 15:39 (seven years ago) link

tried watching cherry moon last night. i will try again a half dozen more times, I'm sure.
i like prince's graffiti bridge hair!

De La Soul is no Major Lazer (ulysses), Friday, 10 June 2016 15:44 (seven years ago) link

Bad hair. Good clothes though. I love this line in the Not Coming piece: "The film had the dubious honor of winning five Razzie awards, even tying with Howard the Duck for Worst Picture. But does Howard the Duck feature Prince, in a bathtub filled with rose petals, playing with a toy boat while wearing a hat? No."

So many highly enjoyable details in that movie. Great bit of backwards film in the "Girls and Boys" performance for instance.

stop torturing me ethel (broom air), Friday, 10 June 2016 16:00 (seven years ago) link

aw I love prince's graffiti bridge hair. so lush. the facial hair is regrettable yes

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Friday, 10 June 2016 16:03 (seven years ago) link

i watched it for the first time yesterday and I think the biggest sin against it is that it's kinda boring, which I can't say about under the cherry moon or purple rain

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Friday, 10 June 2016 16:04 (seven years ago) link

a middle ground between purple rain (same plot essentially just with religious overtones) and sign o the times (exclusively filmed on soundstages plus great performances) should theoretically kinda rule but it just kinda dully meanders

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Friday, 10 June 2016 16:06 (seven years ago) link


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