HBO's adaptation of Game of Thrones - Thread 2. There are a lot of nerds.

I disliked how they played the Septon's speech through the "you win or you die" lens. Is every peaceful village getting massacred? I doubt it.

That's Ned Stark

xxp

I had been puzzled as to why last week, we saw Arya go to all the trouble of retrieving needle, and hiding in a dark room, only to have her suddenly wandering the streets and get attacked in a manner not reflecting her previous on-edge "i'm done for" thing. It seemed weird.

if that wasnt her, that'd make it make a lot more sense.

Also, my bf immediately yelled out "omg percy!" when Tim McInnery came on the screen and I have NO IDEA how he knew - it looked nothing like him! Nor sounded.

Is every peaceful village getting massacred? I doubt it.

― remove butt (abanana), Monday, June 6, 2016 4:25 PM (3 hours ago)

in the books, that was pretty much what happened to just about every village/enclave in the Riverlands area. Well, massacred, if they didn't submit to being robbed and/or subjugated.

So who were the folk Sandor was with anyway. I'm not sure I picked that up. Just some random travelling religious types?

in the books it was kinda like a spiritual retreat / monastery type place, no idea what they were going for in the show

Yeah that was really elided badly.

If that's not Arya I'll be pissed. Seems like you'll have to do a lot of fancy dancing in order for it to be someone else and an Arya Durden solution seems nonsensical to me. Why would she be suffering from split personalities?

No no, its not Arya because its Jaqen pretending to be her. At least thats my take/theory as was someones upthread.

Why would Jacen pretend to be her though? Idgi.

*q

arya's been dead since last season and the waif was pretending to be her all along but jaqen figured it out and pretended to be the waif to trick her do you see.

the big reveal is wait till you find out who was pretending to be jaqen.

http://234buzz.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/234buzzmrbeans-Custom-1-364x205.jpg

Is that Sean Bean?

That's Mr. Sean Bean to you, Sir.

BWB situation seems very clear to me, they started as good intentions champions of the downtrodden, but as with every organisation that utilities violence started attracting more and more horrible bastards, and in the few years since we've seen them have devolved into a thuggish militia.

Any theory revolving around Jaqen and the waif seems off to me. They're literally no one in terms of this story -
at least until they enter the war. Arya is the one this is all about and so waif pretending to be Arya pretending to be Jaqen pretending to be a door knob would be incomprehensible in terms of the story.

It wasn't actually obvious that those guys were Brotherhood at all given that the show has essentially forgotten about them for like two years.

In general the show has largely failed to establish these various religious sects in any kind of interesting way.

Apart from them saying the were from the Brotherhood?

It has been established numerous times in the show that Jaqen H'Gar is about five feet tall, kind of like the show was secretly spoiling its own later plot twist imo

Lol recognised Tim McInnery instantly too, so cool to see him.

It has been established numerous times in the show that Jaqen H'Gar is about five feet tall, kind of like the show was secretly spoiling its own later plot twist imo

― Dadjokke (Sgt. Biscuits), Tuesday, June 7, 2016 8:19 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

In the GRRM books, the phrase "Jaquen, a little man, almost the same height as Arya" appears a full five times.

Good points made by Ask the Maester, as always:

... George R.R. Martin rarely provides the kind of satisfying moment — so common in fantasy stories — in which a bad guy is defeated by a good guy in a set-piece showdown. (THEORY: THIS IS PART OF THE REASON HE CAN’T WRITE THE FREAKING ENDING. One of the hallmarks of the story is the way it eschews genre tropes, and, now those are the only kind of moves left.) In the books, the villains kill the protagonists in intimate fashion, eye to eye and knife to throat. Our heroes never get to administer justice. It’s not that bad deeds necessarily go unpunished — no character goes unscathed in Game of Thrones. But the repercussions generally manifest in an indirect and dissolute way. Cersei’s walk of shame was the result of her own overreach; Jaime lost his hand because of war, writ large, not because he pushed a child from a window; Joffrey died in satisfying fashion, but his killer and the motives weren’t revealed for a long time; Prince Oberyn showboated on the 1-yard line and got his skull crushed. In the books, even a clear win, such as Theon helping Arya escape from Bolton-controlled Winterfell, is diluted by the fact that THAT ISN’T REALLY ARYA. George R.R. Martin is, if nothing else, a master at generating narrative blue balls.

https://theringer.com/ask-the-maester-game-of-thrones-broken-man-72b51604d7d5#.94x48fvx8

Apart from them saying the were from the Brotherhood?

I missed this, although it might not even have registered with me given that the Brotherhood haven't been mentioned for two whole seasons. It only occurred to me who they were when I read this thread. You think they might have shown them in the Previously On section at the very least.

Again, Maester:

Who says those dudes are really in the Brotherhood? Words are wind. I’m dubious until I see Beric and Thoros. I’m betting this is an adaption of a similar event from A Feast for Crows — the massacre at Saltpans — and that this trio of murderers is simply a trio of murderers.

They didn't say they were from the Brotherhood, the Hound said it. They just said they were "protecting the people" or some such

Bad look giving a character a seemingly fatal wound in the same episode you bring back a character who suffered a seemingly fatal wound. It's like they're trying to undercut the stakes.

Excited for Hodor to come back in season seven though.

xpost Hound also mentioned that they worshiped a different god

ice cold to bring in septon swearengen for only one episode but mcshane did rock that shit to be fair

re: the arya stuff i'm fine with there being deus ex machina shit keeping her alive - like, it's a fuckin fantasy show - but would be annoyed if it's some fakeout where she's just being tested more by the house of black and white

Also it's not like they overstated the idea that she was strolling around town without care- it's that they literally just cut to the moment that she let her guard down. The theories that there's something more to what we see going on there just imply a pretty convoluted development. It's much simpler to say that she was careless right at the wrong time and now she's in a pickle as a result.

There's something curious about the waif clips in the episode 8 preview, or maybe I'm just influenced by the speculation. It's only blink and you'll miss it stuff after all.

it is true what people itt have said though, the stakes don't feel so high anymore. if she was going to be dead she would have just died at the end of this episode.

This entire interminable Bravos plotline had better have a fucking awesome payoff at the end.

dorne

remember dorne

?

this siege is classic game of thrones too - the whole show is a fucking siege. thank god these guys never made a videogame

xp im p glad dorne has kept quiet but im sure they'll surface in one of the last three eps to do some dastardly shit

u kno if you're looking for a GOT game w/ incest mechanics and tedious years-long sieges, crusader kings II has a fairly popular GOT mod

A Dornish invasion would be very welcome. I hope they're faster than everyone else.

They'd definitely be .... sexier.

I'm seeing the waif running for her life in the preview. Not sure if that should mean she's not herself though.

Thanks r|t|c for getting Slave to the Rhythm stuck in my head. KEEP IT UP KEEP IT UP

perhaps oberyn's paramour will witness the hound kill the mountain fall in love with him forget her myriad vendetti and they can sail away together?

Maybe everyone has been someone else all along, and when they're all dead Ned Stark will pop up, take off his mask, and be all, hey, everyone, I'm back! Everyone? Hello? Where is everyone? OMG, I am the last man alive on a planet populated by dragons and snow zombies!

And then they can start a spinoff. "Stark Choices?" "Last Ned On Earth?" "Better Ned Than Dead?"

Good points made by Ask the Maester, as always:

In the books, even a clear win, such as Theon helping Arya escape from Bolton-controlled Winterfell, is diluted by the fact that THAT ISN’T REALLY ARYA.

― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, June 7, 2016 10:26 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

theon helped sansa escape tho wth is he trying to say here

Tv and book differences, but you might be on the jokes tangent?

I was also confused- apparently it's referring to the book events which are wildly different there.