HBO's adaptation of Game of Thrones - Thread 2. There are a lot of nerds.

yeah I guess the massacre is probably to do with who McShane's character was before he got religion. His followers were just unlucky

the change in leadership is LSH right? i thought that was mostly about revenge.

IIRC (I might be fuzzy on the details) the Brotherhood basically devolves into a hardcore faction of fanatics lead by you-know-who and the rest just leave to be outlaws.

I'm still trying to figure out how they're going to unfuck this Arya situation. She survives a gut wound = deus ex machina, she turns out not to be the real Arya = deus ex machina, she survives by basically any means = deus ex machina. So we either have a world record shaggy dog story as I mentioned above or we have something completely ridiculous and magical happen which has had NO prior setup that anybody noticed. It's not looking good.

The show might be conflating the revenge and the religious fanaticism (the septum was from a rival religion after all)

Yeah I have no damn clue where they're going with Arya's storyline

I used to be against all these people coming back from the dead until I learned to recognize it as one of the show's actual, major themes: rebirth. So now I'm mostly just intrigued. Winter is coming, after all.

They could just solve the Arya problem by getting her some medical help, of course. I'd prefer that,

the sequence is revealed to be a metaphor for the shock of menarche

I'm still trying to figure out how they're going to unfuck this Arya situation. She survives a gut wound = deus ex machina, she turns out not to be the real Arya = deus ex machina, she survives by basically any means = deus ex machina. So we either have a world record shaggy dog story as I mentioned above or we have something completely ridiculous and magical happen which has had NO prior setup that anybody noticed. It's not looking good.

― El Tomboto, Monday, June 6, 2016 4:45 PM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark

bet she goes back to Jacen who heals her + she becomes enthralled once again to the faceless men

Rebirth and change, definitely. So many baptisms, atonements, new personalities, etc.

yeah i think the fact she survives the stabbing might be like some other dumb test for jacen

am i the only one who kinda likes the waif. i don't mean in a romantic sense - i just mean the character and her mean little face.

My prediction is that after a sustained build to Hound vs Mountain at Trial By Combat III, the Hound suffers a torn medial meniscus while killing some bandits and they have to hurriedly heat up that impassive nun who looks like Hugo Weaving as a credible challenger instead

Oh yeah! The Hound's going to go to take his axe-murderer revenge on the Brotherhood and then the BIG REVEAL w/r/t their leadership, season ends roll credits.

I kind of like the waif too, secretly been waiting for her to mutter to Arya "look, to be honest I really hate working here"

rhythm is both the song's manacle and its demonic charge. it is the original breath. it is the whisper of unremitting demand. ladies and gentlemen, miss sandor clegane, clegane the hound

I was sad about no Sean Bean too but I was really irritated that they didn't go back to that sled boy who's always in the snow and explain why his eyes keep rolling back into his head, does anything on this show actually make sense?

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"Fuck the city, fuck the Kingsguard, fuck the King!"

am i the only one who kinda likes the waif. i don't mean in a romantic sense - i just mean the character and her mean little face.

― japanese mage (LocalGarda), Monday, June 6, 2016 5:06 PM (16 minutes ago) Bookmark

she's got a great Children of the Corn / American Gothic vibe

she's like 30 and from middlesbrough irl

Preview for next episode looks good, The Mountain finally fighting the sparrows. Brienne talking to Jaime.

Had to check where I knew Waif from. I thought it might have seen her in a kids programme from the 90s but she was the socially awkward feminist from Fresh Meat.

They're running out of english actors. I hear next episode they're CGIing Oliver Reed in.

Percy/Captain Darling might be in it a bit more

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It was him! I was going back and forth all the way through and decided it wasn't him.

Wondered if the Hound scene pre-credits was there because the actor's name in title sequence would've revealed it anyway

It was him! I was going back and forth all the way through and decided it wasn't him.

-kinder, Monday, 6 June 2016 23:08

Me too

They haven't used David thewlis or tim spall yet

Good:
Lyanna Mormont -- the Arya who could've been

Bad:
McShane & Co. stuff shallow, transparent setup for Hound's return to killing

I used to be against all these people coming back from the dead until I learned to recognize it as one of the show's actual, major themes: rebirth. So now I'm mostly just intrigued. Winter is coming, after all.

Also relates to two other major themes: reuse and recycling.

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wait isn't this davos?

he looks like major dad

I disliked how they played the Septon's speech through the "you win or you die" lens. Is every peaceful village getting massacred? I doubt it.

That's Ned Stark

xxp

I had been puzzled as to why last week, we saw Arya go to all the trouble of retrieving needle, and hiding in a dark room, only to have her suddenly wandering the streets and get attacked in a manner not reflecting her previous on-edge "i'm done for" thing. It seemed weird.

if that wasnt her, that'd make it make a lot more sense.

Also, my bf immediately yelled out "omg percy!" when Tim McInnery came on the screen and I have NO IDEA how he knew - it looked nothing like him! Nor sounded.

Is every peaceful village getting massacred? I doubt it.

― remove butt (abanana), Monday, June 6, 2016 4:25 PM (3 hours ago)

in the books, that was pretty much what happened to just about every village/enclave in the Riverlands area. Well, massacred, if they didn't submit to being robbed and/or subjugated.

So who were the folk Sandor was with anyway. I'm not sure I picked that up. Just some random travelling religious types?

in the books it was kinda like a spiritual retreat / monastery type place, no idea what they were going for in the show

Yeah that was really elided badly.

If that's not Arya I'll be pissed. Seems like you'll have to do a lot of fancy dancing in order for it to be someone else and an Arya Durden solution seems nonsensical to me. Why would she be suffering from split personalities?

No no, its not Arya because its Jaqen pretending to be her. At least thats my take/theory as was someones upthread.

Why would Jacen pretend to be her though? Idgi.

*q

arya's been dead since last season and the waif was pretending to be her all along but jaqen figured it out and pretended to be the waif to trick her do you see.

the big reveal is wait till you find out who was pretending to be jaqen.

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Is that Sean Bean?

That's Mr. Sean Bean to you, Sir.

BWB situation seems very clear to me, they started as good intentions champions of the downtrodden, but as with every organisation that utilities violence started attracting more and more horrible bastards, and in the few years since we've seen them have devolved into a thuggish militia.

Any theory revolving around Jaqen and the waif seems off to me. They're literally no one in terms of this story -
at least until they enter the war. Arya is the one this is all about and so waif pretending to be Arya pretending to be Jaqen pretending to be a door knob would be incomprehensible in terms of the story.

It wasn't actually obvious that those guys were Brotherhood at all given that the show has essentially forgotten about them for like two years.

In general the show has largely failed to establish these various religious sects in any kind of interesting way.