I've never heard anyone use "corn" in the generic sense in everyday life, but I work in a lab that does quality testing on cereal crops and sometimes the term corns will be used in place of grains/seeds eg "number of whole corns in [barley] sample". we do analyse maize but call it maize because science
― mario vargis loosa (wins), Monday, 6 June 2016 18:14 (seven years ago) link
Yeah I have no objections to using the word "maize" when necessary for precision.
― Sean, let me be clear (silby), Monday, 6 June 2016 18:16 (seven years ago) link
wait hold up a second
"pole corn"?
― STOP KILLING ANIMALS, THEY'RE MINT (DJP), Monday, 6 June 2016 18:18 (seven years ago) link
yeah I mean creamed corn is not the best idea in the world
Depends on how fresh it is. Creamed was the only method for putting up the summer sweet corn* crop when I was growing up. Nowadays it seems like everybody has enough freezer space to put the ears up whole, on the cob, sometimes unshucked even.
2-3 times per summer we'd have so much corn coming in that we'd have fresh creamed corn on biscuits instead of gravy.
* As opposed to field corn, which was dried and went to feed livestock.
― pleas to Nietzsche (WilliamC), Monday, 6 June 2016 18:22 (seven years ago) link
The fading away of "corn" as a generic term for grain seems inevitable atm, because of the global influence of American films and television and the global popularity of maize as a food crop.
― a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Monday, 6 June 2016 18:22 (seven years ago) link
http://cdn.firstwefeast.com/assets/2015/07/cream-corn-potato-pizza.jpg
― mario vargis loosa (wins), Monday, 6 June 2016 18:25 (seven years ago) link
"Managing partner Hillary Barq and chef Nick Vella took over in June and have maintained the restaurant's focus on Sicilian-influenced dishes" in a casual setting at this spot, sandwiched between stunners Herbsaint and Marcello's. While appetizers can tend toward the bland or unbalanced, stick with the pastas—especially the squid ink linguine—and the best bet of all, the wood fired pizzas:
A standout Parmesan creamed corn and shrimp version sounds strange at first but is a showstopper. The buttery corn topping tastes like a bisque but is thicker; crispy, salty slices of speck add deep fatty flavor, which is balanced by heaps of fresh arugula.
― mario vargis loosa (wins), Monday, 6 June 2016 18:27 (seven years ago) link
just to bring us full circle
― mario vargis loosa (wins), Monday, 6 June 2016 18:28 (seven years ago) link
― STOP KILLING ANIMALS, THEY'RE MINT (DJP), Monday, June 6, 2016 2:18 PM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
We call it corn on the pole.
― how's life, Monday, 6 June 2016 18:32 (seven years ago) link
I've tried several different variants of "stripper corn" joke and none of them have really worked ;_;
― STOP KILLING ANIMALS, THEY'RE MINT (DJP), Monday, 6 June 2016 18:37 (seven years ago) link
hominy hominy hominy
― mario vargis loosa (wins), Monday, 6 June 2016 18:41 (seven years ago) link
From a lifetime of parties with extended family that is Polish, this is the true Pole cornhttp://images.media-allrecipes.com/userphotos/250x250/00/32/21/322161.jpg
― Sufjan Grafton, Monday, 6 June 2016 18:44 (seven years ago) link
― STOP KILLING ANIMALS, THEY'RE MINT (DJP)
I'm imagining Dan as Butthead in the Sex Ed class scene.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHmsReGYnCs
― nickn, Monday, 6 June 2016 18:47 (seven years ago) link
Sweetcorn/corn is great in all its forms imo. A bowl for lunch with salt, as part of a barbecue, on pizza, to yellow up any dishes that need it (paella), popcorn... This 'creamed corn' looks delicious too, so I'll be making that soon.
Once I lived near a stand that sold it with different combinations of salt, paprika, cheese, chilli, sugar, chocolate...there wasn't a single bad one.
When vegetarian pizza offerings are so often composed of mystifyingly stew-centric components (why should I enjoy courgette on a bread? Aubergine? Are you crazy?), sweetcorn is the salvation from getting a plain one. What a great texture!
― It certainly is punk of the Church of England to think that way (tangenttangent), Monday, 6 June 2016 18:55 (seven years ago) link
yellow up
― riverine (map), Monday, 6 June 2016 18:56 (seven years ago) link
courgette and aubergine on a pizza work really well. my pizza last night had courgettes on it and was much the better for this. keep your goddamned creamed corn away from me
― And the cry rang out all o'er the town / Good Heavens! Tay is down (imago), Monday, 6 June 2016 18:57 (seven years ago) link
*plans dinner*
― It certainly is punk of the Church of England to think that way (tangenttangent), Monday, 6 June 2016 19:02 (seven years ago) link
aubergine on bruschetta is nice
we have a corn stand round our way too, cups of fresh sweetcorn with various toppings/flavours, always smells delicious
― mario vargis loosa (wins), Monday, 6 June 2016 19:09 (seven years ago) link
I envy you.
― It certainly is punk of the Church of England to think that way (tangenttangent), Monday, 6 June 2016 19:20 (seven years ago) link
Spicy corn in a cup is a thing in South Asian neighbourhoods in London and it's only about a pound or £1.50 per serving.
― jedi slimane (suzy), Monday, 6 June 2016 19:42 (seven years ago) link
2 spices 1 cup
― STOP KILLING ANIMALS, THEY'RE MINT (DJP), Monday, 6 June 2016 19:44 (seven years ago) link
what do you mean by stew-centric? i've never had stewed egg plant or zucchini or had them in a stew. i have had many stews with corn
― dynamicinterface, Monday, 6 June 2016 19:51 (seven years ago) link
Stewed corn? That is to mask its finest properties. Maybe there's another big continental divide to be observed over stews. I've had plenty of vague, European stews involving courgette during long, sad winters.
― It certainly is punk of the Church of England to think that way (tangenttangent), Monday, 6 June 2016 19:59 (seven years ago) link
stewed aubergine def a thing in lebanese &c cuisine
― mario vargis loosa (wins), Monday, 6 June 2016 20:05 (seven years ago) link
if you've not had baba ghanoush then frankly you can't say anything about aubergines
― And the cry rang out all o'er the town / Good Heavens! Tay is down (imago), Monday, 6 June 2016 20:12 (seven years ago) link
Ratatouille is a type of stew! How have you not heard of that?
― emil.y, Monday, 6 June 2016 20:21 (seven years ago) link
I always feel a bit of a fraud posting on food threads as I don't know shit about food and don't really care about it, but considering stews and stew-like soups (or "stewps") are the only thing I can cook I feel like I can speak more assuredly on this matter.
― emil.y, Monday, 6 June 2016 20:24 (seven years ago) link
staidinterface
― And the cry rang out all o'er the town / Good Heavens! Tay is down (imago), Monday, 6 June 2016 20:24 (seven years ago) link
i lump stews, chowders, soups together in my head i guess. i've had ratatouille but always thought it was baked so i never have thought of it as a stew
― dynamicinterface, Monday, 6 June 2016 20:34 (seven years ago) link
All of this said, I did once make a Bamia pizza (like a Middle Eastern okra stew, but on a pizza base), so I don't think I can be critical of any food combination. 'Stewp' sounds marketable.
― It certainly is punk of the Church of England to think that way (tangenttangent), Monday, 6 June 2016 20:40 (seven years ago) link
I saw a woman pour ketchup all over her pastrami sandwich in a noted Jewish deli. I found it offensive, and I think a rabbi should rule it traif.
― socka flocka-jones (man alive), Monday, 6 June 2016 20:41 (seven years ago) link
i don't think i've ever encountered the word 'courgette' before today
― riverine (map), Monday, 6 June 2016 20:47 (seven years ago) link
I would have guessed it meant "little cougar"
― STOP KILLING ANIMALS, THEY'RE MINT (DJP), Monday, 6 June 2016 20:49 (seven years ago) link
phonetically speaking, zucchini might beat courgette, although the endings are problematic for both - zucchini looks like a singularised plural and courgette seems to use the feminine diminutive that so benights the french language
― And the cry rang out all o'er the town / Good Heavens! Tay is down (imago), Monday, 6 June 2016 20:50 (seven years ago) link
however, nobody on this earth could convince me that 'eggplant' is a more euphonious name than 'aubergine'
― And the cry rang out all o'er the town / Good Heavens! Tay is down (imago), Monday, 6 June 2016 20:51 (seven years ago) link
courgette is probably a better name than zucchini. aubergine is definitely a better name than eggplant.
lol xp
― mario vargis loosa (wins), Monday, 6 June 2016 20:51 (seven years ago) link
Totally agree w/ imago (xp and wins!). Though I have no real problem with -ette being appended to things, as opposed to people.
― emil.y, Monday, 6 June 2016 20:53 (seven years ago) link
zucchini and egg plant are both the native american names iirc
― dynamicinterface, Monday, 6 June 2016 20:54 (seven years ago) link
agree that 'aubergine' as a word is vastly superior to 'eggplant'
― riverine (map), Monday, 6 June 2016 20:55 (seven years ago) link
white aubergines totally look like eggs tho!
http://www.khiewchanta.com/images/small-white-eggplant.jpg
― mario vargis loosa (wins), Monday, 6 June 2016 20:56 (seven years ago) link
wow
― riverine (map), Monday, 6 June 2016 20:57 (seven years ago) link
I have to assume that whoever named them was looking at those and not the common purple ones
― mario vargis loosa (wins), Monday, 6 June 2016 20:58 (seven years ago) link
round yellow courgettes are even more mindblowing (and really nice)
http://www.growfruitandveg.co.uk/grapevine/attachments/fruit-vegetable-showcase/31807d1346881803-virtual-show-2012-pair-courgettes-voting-100_0490.jpg
― And the cry rang out all o'er the town / Good Heavens! Tay is down (imago), Monday, 6 June 2016 20:58 (seven years ago) link
shit that is huge, sorry
i will start using 'zucchino' in penance
― And the cry rang out all o'er the town / Good Heavens! Tay is down (imago), Monday, 6 June 2016 20:59 (seven years ago) link
I prefer "zucchinus"
― STOP KILLING ANIMALS, THEY'RE MINT (DJP), Monday, 6 June 2016 20:59 (seven years ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CgmOs10W4AIG6kg.jpg
― riverine (map), Monday, 6 June 2016 21:01 (seven years ago) link
thundercrack.gif
― mario vargis loosa (wins), Monday, 6 June 2016 21:02 (seven years ago) link
for all my bemoaning of the french feminine diminutive i've actually been frightfully androcentric in my assumption of 'zucchino'; it transpires the original was 'zucchina'
― And the cry rang out all o'er the town / Good Heavens! Tay is down (imago), Monday, 6 June 2016 21:02 (seven years ago) link
no wait the plot has thickened
Zucca is the Italian word for pumpkin/squash and zucchino/zucchina (zucca + ina = little) are diminutive forms, becoming zucchini/zucchine in the plural. Zucchino, the masculine form (zucchini in the plural), is the first form to be documented in writing.[2] An Italian dictionary called lo Zingarelli 2015, Zanichelli Editore, gives both forms, as does the Devoto-Oli published by Le Monnier, but the Accademia della Crusca, the most important research institution on Italian language, defines zucchino as the preferable form.[2] The Treccani, Istituto dell'Enciclopedia italiana, another highly respected linguistic authority, gives zucchina as the main Italian word, and the masculine form as Tuscan dialect.
― And the cry rang out all o'er the town / Good Heavens! Tay is down (imago), Monday, 6 June 2016 21:04 (seven years ago) link
got to go with lo zingarelli 2015
― mario vargis loosa (wins), Monday, 6 June 2016 21:07 (seven years ago) link