If sweet corn is corn why not call it corn?
DL otm btw. Off the cob all the way.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 6 June 2016 17:06 (seven years ago) link
i didn't make the rules!
― japanese mage (LocalGarda), Monday, 6 June 2016 17:08 (seven years ago) link
:)
― Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 6 June 2016 17:09 (seven years ago) link
Hey, 'sweetcorn' is Britishes for 'canned corn' and I'm going to stand with my fellow island-dwellers in saying it's vile, while fresh and lovely corn on the cob is amazing (especially with paprika butter).
― jedi slimane (suzy), Monday, 6 June 2016 17:12 (seven years ago) link
what about frozen sweetcorn
― mario vargis loosa (wins), Monday, 6 June 2016 17:17 (seven years ago) link
Corn on the cob (known regionally as "pole corn", "cornstick", "sweet pole", "butter-pop" or "long maize")[citation needed] is a culinary term used for a cooked ear of freshly picked maize from a cultivar of sweet corn.
― japanese mage (LocalGarda), Monday, 6 June 2016 17:18 (seven years ago) link
or like if I made a soup or salad or whatever and put fresh corn in it I guarantee you that any British person I served it to would understand it to be sweetcorn
― mario vargis loosa (wins), Monday, 6 June 2016 17:19 (seven years ago) link
seems like plenty of americans itt were familiar with the word
― japanese mage (LocalGarda), Monday, 6 June 2016 17:20 (seven years ago) link
yep xp, sweetcorn is basically all corn that is people food as opposed to like a feed crop
― mario vargis loosa (wins), Monday, 6 June 2016 17:20 (seven years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/tPbxi8K.png
― japanese mage (LocalGarda), Monday, 6 June 2016 17:22 (seven years ago) link
Corn on the cob is vile too though. :-o
― Larry 'Leg' Smith (Tom D.), Monday, 6 June 2016 17:23 (seven years ago) link
I guess I've only ever heard people call it "corn" except for Minnesotans. It's not like there's other kinds of corn you just eat, is there?
― Sean, let me be clear (silby), Monday, 6 June 2016 17:24 (seven years ago) link
not really - had this at a restaurant once: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peruvian_corn
― japanese mage (LocalGarda), Monday, 6 June 2016 17:25 (seven years ago) link
i doubt the potential for ambiguity is high but next time someone says "corn" be sure and check "do you mean peruvian corn or sweet?"
― japanese mage (LocalGarda), Monday, 6 June 2016 17:26 (seven years ago) link
Peruvian ceviche with that corn and cold sweet potato would be my frontrunner for last meal on earth, only thing that might come close is my aunt's pozole. Come to think of it I just love corn. Hooray for corn!
― mario vargis loosa (wins), Monday, 6 June 2016 17:34 (seven years ago) link
They make monster munch out of it too
― mario vargis loosa (wins), Monday, 6 June 2016 17:35 (seven years ago) link
― Larry 'Leg' Smith (Tom D.), Monday, June 6, 2016 12:23 PM (12 minutes ago)
YOU LIE
― pleas to Nietzsche (WilliamC), Monday, 6 June 2016 17:38 (seven years ago) link
thread makes me want a big buttery corn on the cob
― japanese mage (LocalGarda), Monday, 6 June 2016 17:39 (seven years ago) link
"Corn" could also be popcorn or flour corn or barleycorn, if barleycorn is indeed an actual thing and not just a name for pubs? I quite liked canned sweetcorn anyway, but corn on the cob is better.
― emil.y, Monday, 6 June 2016 17:48 (seven years ago) link
q for americans
https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/enhanced/webdr05/2013/4/8/18/enhanced-buzz-12014-1365461764-2.jpg
― mario vargis loosa (wins), Monday, 6 June 2016 17:49 (seven years ago) link
I can't speak for the UK but in the US, I have a strong suspicion that serving someone popcorn after they have asked for "corn" would get you a lot of puzzled stares
― STOP KILLING ANIMALS, THEY'RE MINT (DJP), Monday, 6 June 2016 17:50 (seven years ago) link
Mexican style - Elote
http://sanchosmexican.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/corn-2-image.png
All corn is good, but fresh is much better, of course. And frozen corn beats canned corn.
― nickn, Monday, 6 June 2016 17:51 (seven years ago) link
I don't understand how anyone can find corn on the cob vile unless the only time they had it, someone pooped on their corn
― STOP KILLING ANIMALS, THEY'RE MINT (DJP), Monday, 6 June 2016 17:53 (seven years ago) link
so can an american explain creamed corn to me (that was the log lady img I posted just now that isn't showing up on my browser but it is on zing?)
― mario vargis loosa (wins), Monday, 6 June 2016 17:56 (seven years ago) link
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/0e/d6/91/0ed69101789e81b54a2793da8d186c66.jpg
like this def seems like it would push the limits of the "all corn is good" theory
― mario vargis loosa (wins), Monday, 6 June 2016 17:58 (seven years ago) link
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creamed_corn
btw creamed spinach >>> creamed corn
― STOP KILLING ANIMALS, THEY'RE MINT (DJP), Monday, 6 June 2016 17:59 (seven years ago) link
that wikipedia article comes within inches of using the term "resultant paste"
― mario vargis loosa (wins), Monday, 6 June 2016 18:00 (seven years ago) link
yeah I mean creamed corn is not the best idea in the world
creamed spinach, esp if made with cream cheese, is delicious
― STOP KILLING ANIMALS, THEY'RE MINT (DJP), Monday, 6 June 2016 18:02 (seven years ago) link
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paste_(food)
Blenders, grinders, mortars and pestles, matates, and even chewing are used to reduce unprocessed food to a meal, powder, or when significant water is present in the original food, directly into a paste. If required, water, oil and other liquids are added to dry ingredients to make the paste. Often the resultant paste is fermented or cooked to increase its longevity. Often pastes are steamed, baked or enclosed in pastry or bread dough to make them ready for consumption.
― japanese mage (LocalGarda), Monday, 6 June 2016 18:04 (seven years ago) link
we call it sweetpaste in the uk
tbh I would eat corn chowder so I should probably get off my high horse wrt gloopy corn mulch
― mario vargis loosa (wins), Monday, 6 June 2016 18:05 (seven years ago) link
I'm pretty certain all non-American ilxors know this shit and so do many American ilxors, but there are tens of millions of Americans who don't know this, so ftr:
British English has for centuries used "corn" as a generic term to denote all kinds of grain crops: wheat, barley, oats, millet, etc. When English colonists got to north america they quickly discovered that indian corn was by far the best and easiest grain crop to grow. It dominated American agriculture and diet to such an extent that in America the generic word "corn" soon became exclusively associated with indian corn, and then, by extension sweet corn. It lost its generic meaning here, but it still gets used generically in other English speaking countries.
― a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Monday, 6 June 2016 18:05 (seven years ago) link
Is that like how they call any kind of yarn "wool", even if it's 100% acrylic?
― Sean, let me be clear (silby), Monday, 6 June 2016 18:14 (seven years ago) link
I've never heard anyone use "corn" in the generic sense in everyday life, but I work in a lab that does quality testing on cereal crops and sometimes the term corns will be used in place of grains/seeds eg "number of whole corns in [barley] sample". we do analyse maize but call it maize because science
― mario vargis loosa (wins), Monday, 6 June 2016 18:14 (seven years ago) link
Yeah I have no objections to using the word "maize" when necessary for precision.
― Sean, let me be clear (silby), Monday, 6 June 2016 18:16 (seven years ago) link
wait hold up a second
"pole corn"?
― STOP KILLING ANIMALS, THEY'RE MINT (DJP), Monday, 6 June 2016 18:18 (seven years ago) link
Depends on how fresh it is. Creamed was the only method for putting up the summer sweet corn* crop when I was growing up. Nowadays it seems like everybody has enough freezer space to put the ears up whole, on the cob, sometimes unshucked even.
2-3 times per summer we'd have so much corn coming in that we'd have fresh creamed corn on biscuits instead of gravy.
* As opposed to field corn, which was dried and went to feed livestock.
― pleas to Nietzsche (WilliamC), Monday, 6 June 2016 18:22 (seven years ago) link
The fading away of "corn" as a generic term for grain seems inevitable atm, because of the global influence of American films and television and the global popularity of maize as a food crop.
― a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Monday, 6 June 2016 18:22 (seven years ago) link
http://cdn.firstwefeast.com/assets/2015/07/cream-corn-potato-pizza.jpg
― mario vargis loosa (wins), Monday, 6 June 2016 18:25 (seven years ago) link
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A standout Parmesan creamed corn and shrimp version sounds strange at first but is a showstopper. The buttery corn topping tastes like a bisque but is thicker; crispy, salty slices of speck add deep fatty flavor, which is balanced by heaps of fresh arugula.
― mario vargis loosa (wins), Monday, 6 June 2016 18:27 (seven years ago) link
just to bring us full circle
― mario vargis loosa (wins), Monday, 6 June 2016 18:28 (seven years ago) link
― STOP KILLING ANIMALS, THEY'RE MINT (DJP), Monday, June 6, 2016 2:18 PM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
We call it corn on the pole.
― how's life, Monday, 6 June 2016 18:32 (seven years ago) link
I've tried several different variants of "stripper corn" joke and none of them have really worked ;_;
― STOP KILLING ANIMALS, THEY'RE MINT (DJP), Monday, 6 June 2016 18:37 (seven years ago) link
hominy hominy hominy
― mario vargis loosa (wins), Monday, 6 June 2016 18:41 (seven years ago) link
From a lifetime of parties with extended family that is Polish, this is the true Pole cornhttp://images.media-allrecipes.com/userphotos/250x250/00/32/21/322161.jpg
― Sufjan Grafton, Monday, 6 June 2016 18:44 (seven years ago) link
― STOP KILLING ANIMALS, THEY'RE MINT (DJP)
I'm imagining Dan as Butthead in the Sex Ed class scene.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHmsReGYnCs
― nickn, Monday, 6 June 2016 18:47 (seven years ago) link
Sweetcorn/corn is great in all its forms imo. A bowl for lunch with salt, as part of a barbecue, on pizza, to yellow up any dishes that need it (paella), popcorn... This 'creamed corn' looks delicious too, so I'll be making that soon.
Once I lived near a stand that sold it with different combinations of salt, paprika, cheese, chilli, sugar, chocolate...there wasn't a single bad one.
When vegetarian pizza offerings are so often composed of mystifyingly stew-centric components (why should I enjoy courgette on a bread? Aubergine? Are you crazy?), sweetcorn is the salvation from getting a plain one. What a great texture!
― It certainly is punk of the Church of England to think that way (tangenttangent), Monday, 6 June 2016 18:55 (seven years ago) link
yellow up
― riverine (map), Monday, 6 June 2016 18:56 (seven years ago) link
courgette and aubergine on a pizza work really well. my pizza last night had courgettes on it and was much the better for this. keep your goddamned creamed corn away from me
― And the cry rang out all o'er the town / Good Heavens! Tay is down (imago), Monday, 6 June 2016 18:57 (seven years ago) link
*plans dinner*
― It certainly is punk of the Church of England to think that way (tangenttangent), Monday, 6 June 2016 19:02 (seven years ago) link