Jute Gyte

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It's on Spotify now. First listen in full with headphones and better sound quality... I can't even begin to unpack this. There are moments when it feels like the sound is being psychically implied or beamed in from afar.

Listening again.

I love that he releases these things in the summer. I really think that he intends for them to be summer albums.

well, yes. they are, really. the heat-madness coming off the swamp...

Listening to this in higher quality and questioning whether other music really matters right now

Will Julio like it though?

Larry 'Leg' Smith (Tom D.), Monday, 6 June 2016 11:01 (seven years ago) link

of course, but he won't admit it

You say potato, he say po-tah-to.

Larry 'Leg' Smith (Tom D.), Monday, 6 June 2016 11:04 (seven years ago) link

ha trap beats morphing into insane death metal multi-limbed drum freakery on "at the limit of fertile land". tremendous stuff.

Neptune Bingo (Michael B), Monday, 6 June 2016 13:18 (seven years ago) link

it's up on bandcamp now. the writeup alone is incredible. read it and blush, xyzzzz

pretty interesting stuff - these riffs are pretty heavily death metal though? does this really read as mainly black metal to yall?

sort of - he used to be much more BM but the rules have shifted

still, there's a big shout-out to Inquisition in the write-up, for what that's worth

at the risk of sounding terribly pretentious, i consider it neoclassical maximalism in the metal song form above all

The title “Consciousness Is Nature's Nightmare” is from Cioran's Tears and Saints by way of D.F. Wallace's late masterpiece “The Suffering Channel”

Knew I recognised this! This is however, the only sentence I can even approach understanding from the liner notes. I do not know what a 4:5:6:7 ratio is, nor what a consistent 33-beat hypermeter could be, but I will trust that he knows what he's talking about.

the term "neoclassical" with reference to metal is something I'll probably never be on board with unless we're talking about power metal in which case ok

these riffs are pretty heavily death metal though? does this really read as mainly black metal to yall?

― The bald Phil Collins impersonator cash grab (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Monday, June 6, 2016 6:49 PM (Yesterday)

the vocals are the clearest point of connection. but i've never thought of jute gyte as wholly belonging to any metal subgenre. it's progressive artmusic with a debt to black metal.

the world over the crotch. (contenderizer), Tuesday, 7 June 2016 14:01 (seven years ago) link

the term "neoclassical" with reference to metal is something I'll probably never be on board with unless we're talking about power metal in which case ok

― The bald Phil Collins impersonator cash grab (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Tuesday, 7 June 2016 14:38 (34 minutes ago)

afaik lj is using neoclassical in a sense other than that conventionally employed within the field of music

nakhchivan, Tuesday, 7 June 2016 14:15 (seven years ago) link

Always appreciated this dude but I actually bought the CD this time

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 7 June 2016 14:43 (seven years ago) link

this sounds quite fun

donning his most gytian display name

this and the shxchhchssh album a fine accompanient to the sturm und drang rumbling away in the background

yeah i was just listening to this while walking through a pimlico thunderstorm in a yellow shirt with swallow print, check shorts and sandals, p much optimal

maybe mustard rather than yellow

I do not know what a 4:5:6:7 ratio is, nor what a consistent 33-beat hypermeter could be, but I will trust that he knows what he's talking about.

In this case, I think that a 4:5:6:7 ratio means that he has four parts moving at four different tempi, which are in this ratio to each other, such that 4 beats of #1 takes as long as 5 beats of #2, which takes as long as 6 beats of #3 etc. So, for example, if you have a string quartet where Violin 1 is playing a line at 96 bpm, Violin 2 is playing at 120 bpm, Viola is playing at 144 bpm, and Cello is playing at 168 bpm, Vln 1 would play 4 beats in the same time that Vln 2 would play 5 beats, which would also be the same time that Vla would play 6 beats and Cello would play 7 beats. I haven't actually counted the parts in "Athens" but I think Kalmbach is saying that this is what is happening in the polymetric passages.

I have honesty never felt like I really needed to use the concept of hypermetre in my life (except when reading someone who does) but the Wikipedia summary is decent. I prefer to just think in terms of bars, phrases, sections, etc., honestly. I think that all that Kalmbach is saying is that he has organized "Palimpsest" into phrases or sections that are all multiples of 33 beats long.

Hi! I'm twice-coloured! (Sund4r), Tuesday, 7 June 2016 20:58 (seven years ago) link

write me when he does a piece with a ratio of one over the cube root of pi to the cube root of 13/16

hypnic jerk (rushomancy), Tuesday, 7 June 2016 21:54 (seven years ago) link

nerdiest post ever on ilm

Cosmic Slop, Tuesday, 7 June 2016 22:14 (seven years ago) link

We're all posting to a thread about microtonal progressive extreme metal iirc.

Hi! I'm twice-coloured! (Sund4r), Wednesday, 8 June 2016 01:12 (seven years ago) link

Rushomancy's request, otoh, is U&K.

Hi! I'm twice-coloured! (Sund4r), Wednesday, 8 June 2016 01:15 (seven years ago) link

So I'm loving Ship of Theseus, thanks ILM.

albvivertine, Wednesday, 8 June 2016 09:54 (seven years ago) link

and yet sund4r you out-nerded everyone on it :)

Cosmic Slop, Wednesday, 8 June 2016 10:37 (seven years ago) link

perfectly intelligible explanation imo

albvivertine, glad you're aboard. hope you're able to go back and hear the slightly earlier stuff, even if JG is apparently refining his art with each album

imago, Wednesday, 8 June 2016 10:45 (seven years ago) link

Rushomancy's request, otoh, is U&K.

― Hi! I'm twice-coloured! (Sund4r)

i tried to google this abbreviation and all i could come up with is "undertaker & kane".

hypnic jerk (rushomancy), Wednesday, 8 June 2016 10:58 (seven years ago) link

lol

And thank you Sund4r for your explanation! That was lovely

Imago I'm planning to. His notes being v dry/technical, is there a particular electronic album of his you'd recommend?

albvivertine, Thursday, 9 June 2016 01:32 (seven years ago) link

well, the latest one, DIalectics, is presumably the most 'advanced' and it is p great...I am planning to listen to all his pre-Discontinuities work and compile a best-of at some point but I haven't yet

imago, Thursday, 9 June 2016 07:05 (seven years ago) link

you could argue that Perdurance is both his latest electronic and his latest metal album tho

imago, Thursday, 9 June 2016 07:06 (seven years ago) link

And thank you Sund4r for your explanation! That was lovely

Np, tangenttangent!

("U&K" = "urgent and key")

Hi! I'm twice-coloured! (Sund4r), Thursday, 9 June 2016 16:35 (seven years ago) link

Finally listened to this. I'm not exactly in raptures about it but it's decent enough.

ultros ultros-ghali, Thursday, 9 June 2016 20:41 (seven years ago) link

i sort of thought that after one full listen, in a 'maybe ship of theseus is still the best one' way

but no, twenty or thirty listens later i'm declaring this another forward step in the career of the most exciting musician on earth

your damascene moment awaits. no pressure tho ;)

imago, Thursday, 9 June 2016 20:48 (seven years ago) link

positive AMG review yesterday

the world over the crotch. (contenderizer), Friday, 10 June 2016 13:12 (seven years ago) link

I've ordered the CD. Looking forward to it coming!

Duke, Friday, 10 June 2016 16:25 (seven years ago) link

these riffs are pretty heavily death metal though? does this really read as mainly black metal to yall?

― The bald Phil Collins impersonator cash grab (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Monday, June 6, 2016 6:49 PM (Yesterday)

the vocals are the clearest point of connection. but i've never thought of jute gyte as wholly belonging to any metal subgenre. it's progressive artmusic with a debt to black metal.

― the world over the crotch. (contenderizer), Tuesday, June 7, 2016 10:01 AM (3 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

listening now, yes striking me as modern experimental death metal, of the Gorguts or Portal school. However, the vocals, and the general sickliness of the mood could be seen as black metal. Biggest struggle thus far is the drum programming, but liking the overall production

Dominique, Friday, 10 June 2016 17:15 (seven years ago) link

I was wondering what instruments he used. His guitar is a "cheap Squier" with a replacement 24 fret per octave neck.

https://thegrindthatannoys.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/guitar.png

Duke, Friday, 10 June 2016 21:34 (seven years ago) link

Any consensus tracks emerging? Of late I have been marginally favouring the even-numbered pieces while adoring the whole

imago, Tuesday, 21 June 2016 16:40 (seven years ago) link

New one just isn't doing much for me really. I think I'll just jump off the JG train for a while and see how he's doing in another couple albums or so.

ultros ultros-ghali, Tuesday, 21 June 2016 17:03 (seven years ago) link

CDr arrived today

Cosmic Slop, Tuesday, 21 June 2016 18:34 (seven years ago) link

Jumping off a train just as it goes all pandimensional

imago, Tuesday, 21 June 2016 18:39 (seven years ago) link

Listening to Perdurance again because it sounds like how I feel right now.

ultros ultros-ghali, Saturday, 25 June 2016 15:36 (seven years ago) link

It was all I could bring myself to listen to on Friday morning.

Still haven't gotten mine yet. :(

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Saturday, 25 June 2016 16:35 (seven years ago) link

My 2 CDs arrived today. The discs are housed in DVD covers - unfortunately the black type (natch), rather than the more stylish clear plastic. #firstworldgripes

Duke, Saturday, 25 June 2016 19:09 (seven years ago) link

two months pass...

i'm bored of not talking about this album

imago, Thursday, 25 August 2016 20:07 (seven years ago) link


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