just listened again. "i am in athens and pericles is young" is a hell of a closer.
― the world over the crotch. (contenderizer), Saturday, 4 June 2016 22:09 (seven years ago) link
opener is incredible
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Saturday, 4 June 2016 22:19 (seven years ago) link
that too
― the world over the crotch. (contenderizer), Saturday, 4 June 2016 22:59 (seven years ago) link
im going to listen to this once the weather gets shite again
― Neptune Bingo (Michael B), Saturday, 4 June 2016 21:57 (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Not really in the mood for this anyway, confirmed by listening to about a minute of the opener. Apart from anything else the sound quality was crap so I'll wait for it to materialize on bandcamp or whatever.
― ultros ultros-ghali, Sunday, 5 June 2016 12:47 (seven years ago) link
you have 1 day to wait
― And the cry rang out all o'er the town / Good Heavens! Tay is down (imago), Sunday, 5 June 2016 13:04 (seven years ago) link
can't even get past the first song because i keep relistening to it
― bitcoin bajas (diamonddave85), Sunday, 5 June 2016 17:35 (seven years ago) link
towards the end of 'consciousness is nature's nightmare' it sounds like he shrieks 'let's facetime'
― And the cry rang out all o'er the town / Good Heavens! Tay is down (imago), Sunday, 5 June 2016 19:08 (seven years ago) link
It really does. I like the Sound of Music one best at the moment.
― It certainly is punk of the Church of England to think that way (tangenttangent), Sunday, 5 June 2016 19:38 (seven years ago) link
It's on Spotify now. First listen in full with headphones and better sound quality... I can't even begin to unpack this. There are moments when it feels like the sound is being psychically implied or beamed in from afar.
― It certainly is punk of the Church of England to think that way (tangenttangent), Monday, 6 June 2016 09:09 (seven years ago) link
Listening again.
I love that he releases these things in the summer. I really think that he intends for them to be summer albums.
― It certainly is punk of the Church of England to think that way (tangenttangent), Monday, 6 June 2016 10:11 (seven years ago) link
well, yes. they are, really. the heat-madness coming off the swamp...
Listening to this in higher quality and questioning whether other music really matters right now
― And the cry rang out all o'er the town / Good Heavens! Tay is down (imago), Monday, 6 June 2016 10:58 (seven years ago) link
Will Julio like it though?
― Larry 'Leg' Smith (Tom D.), Monday, 6 June 2016 11:01 (seven years ago) link
of course, but he won't admit it
― And the cry rang out all o'er the town / Good Heavens! Tay is down (imago), Monday, 6 June 2016 11:02 (seven years ago) link
You say potato, he say po-tah-to.
― Larry 'Leg' Smith (Tom D.), Monday, 6 June 2016 11:04 (seven years ago) link
ha trap beats morphing into insane death metal multi-limbed drum freakery on "at the limit of fertile land". tremendous stuff.
― Neptune Bingo (Michael B), Monday, 6 June 2016 13:18 (seven years ago) link
it's up on bandcamp now. the writeup alone is incredible. read it and blush, xyzzzz
― And the cry rang out all o'er the town / Good Heavens! Tay is down (imago), Monday, 6 June 2016 13:25 (seven years ago) link
pretty interesting stuff - these riffs are pretty heavily death metal though? does this really read as mainly black metal to yall?
― The bald Phil Collins impersonator cash grab (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Tuesday, 7 June 2016 01:49 (seven years ago) link
sort of - he used to be much more BM but the rules have shifted
still, there's a big shout-out to Inquisition in the write-up, for what that's worth
― And the cry rang out all o'er the town / Good Heavens! Tay is down (imago), Tuesday, 7 June 2016 07:16 (seven years ago) link
at the risk of sounding terribly pretentious, i consider it neoclassical maximalism in the metal song form above all
The title “Consciousness Is Nature's Nightmare” is from Cioran's Tears and Saints by way of D.F. Wallace's late masterpiece “The Suffering Channel”
Knew I recognised this! This is however, the only sentence I can even approach understanding from the liner notes. I do not know what a 4:5:6:7 ratio is, nor what a consistent 33-beat hypermeter could be, but I will trust that he knows what he's talking about.
― It certainly is punk of the Church of England to think that way (tangenttangent), Tuesday, 7 June 2016 08:50 (seven years ago) link
the term "neoclassical" with reference to metal is something I'll probably never be on board with unless we're talking about power metal in which case ok
― The bald Phil Collins impersonator cash grab (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Tuesday, 7 June 2016 13:38 (seven years ago) link
these riffs are pretty heavily death metal though? does this really read as mainly black metal to yall?
― The bald Phil Collins impersonator cash grab (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Monday, June 6, 2016 6:49 PM (Yesterday)
the vocals are the clearest point of connection. but i've never thought of jute gyte as wholly belonging to any metal subgenre. it's progressive artmusic with a debt to black metal.
― the world over the crotch. (contenderizer), Tuesday, 7 June 2016 14:01 (seven years ago) link
― The bald Phil Collins impersonator cash grab (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Tuesday, 7 June 2016 14:38 (34 minutes ago)
afaik lj is using neoclassical in a sense other than that conventionally employed within the field of music
― nakhchivan, Tuesday, 7 June 2016 14:15 (seven years ago) link
Always appreciated this dude but I actually bought the CD this time
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 7 June 2016 14:43 (seven years ago) link
this sounds quite fun
― Chetniks in Šumadija kill a Partisan through heart extraction.jpg (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 7 June 2016 14:49 (seven years ago) link
donning his most gytian display name
― And the cry rang out all o'er the town / Good Heavens! Tay is down (imago), Tuesday, 7 June 2016 15:04 (seven years ago) link
this and the shxchhchssh album a fine accompanient to the sturm und drang rumbling away in the background
― Chetniks in Šumadija kill a Partisan through heart extraction.jpg (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 7 June 2016 15:13 (seven years ago) link
yeah i was just listening to this while walking through a pimlico thunderstorm in a yellow shirt with swallow print, check shorts and sandals, p much optimal
― And the cry rang out all o'er the town / Good Heavens! Tay is down (imago), Tuesday, 7 June 2016 15:19 (seven years ago) link
maybe mustard rather than yellow
― And the cry rang out all o'er the town / Good Heavens! Tay is down (imago), Tuesday, 7 June 2016 15:21 (seven years ago) link
I do not know what a 4:5:6:7 ratio is, nor what a consistent 33-beat hypermeter could be, but I will trust that he knows what he's talking about.
In this case, I think that a 4:5:6:7 ratio means that he has four parts moving at four different tempi, which are in this ratio to each other, such that 4 beats of #1 takes as long as 5 beats of #2, which takes as long as 6 beats of #3 etc. So, for example, if you have a string quartet where Violin 1 is playing a line at 96 bpm, Violin 2 is playing at 120 bpm, Viola is playing at 144 bpm, and Cello is playing at 168 bpm, Vln 1 would play 4 beats in the same time that Vln 2 would play 5 beats, which would also be the same time that Vla would play 6 beats and Cello would play 7 beats. I haven't actually counted the parts in "Athens" but I think Kalmbach is saying that this is what is happening in the polymetric passages.
I have honesty never felt like I really needed to use the concept of hypermetre in my life (except when reading someone who does) but the Wikipedia summary is decent. I prefer to just think in terms of bars, phrases, sections, etc., honestly. I think that all that Kalmbach is saying is that he has organized "Palimpsest" into phrases or sections that are all multiples of 33 beats long.
― Hi! I'm twice-coloured! (Sund4r), Tuesday, 7 June 2016 20:58 (seven years ago) link
write me when he does a piece with a ratio of one over the cube root of pi to the cube root of 13/16
― hypnic jerk (rushomancy), Tuesday, 7 June 2016 21:54 (seven years ago) link
nerdiest post ever on ilm
― Cosmic Slop, Tuesday, 7 June 2016 22:14 (seven years ago) link
We're all posting to a thread about microtonal progressive extreme metal iirc.
― Hi! I'm twice-coloured! (Sund4r), Wednesday, 8 June 2016 01:12 (seven years ago) link
Rushomancy's request, otoh, is U&K.
― Hi! I'm twice-coloured! (Sund4r), Wednesday, 8 June 2016 01:15 (seven years ago) link
So I'm loving Ship of Theseus, thanks ILM.
― albvivertine, Wednesday, 8 June 2016 09:54 (seven years ago) link
and yet sund4r you out-nerded everyone on it :)
― Cosmic Slop, Wednesday, 8 June 2016 10:37 (seven years ago) link
perfectly intelligible explanation imo
albvivertine, glad you're aboard. hope you're able to go back and hear the slightly earlier stuff, even if JG is apparently refining his art with each album
― imago, Wednesday, 8 June 2016 10:45 (seven years ago) link
― Hi! I'm twice-coloured! (Sund4r)
i tried to google this abbreviation and all i could come up with is "undertaker & kane".
― hypnic jerk (rushomancy), Wednesday, 8 June 2016 10:58 (seven years ago) link
lol
And thank you Sund4r for your explanation! That was lovely
― It certainly is punk of the Church of England to think that way (tangenttangent), Wednesday, 8 June 2016 11:11 (seven years ago) link
Imago I'm planning to. His notes being v dry/technical, is there a particular electronic album of his you'd recommend?
― albvivertine, Thursday, 9 June 2016 01:32 (seven years ago) link
well, the latest one, DIalectics, is presumably the most 'advanced' and it is p great...I am planning to listen to all his pre-Discontinuities work and compile a best-of at some point but I haven't yet
― imago, Thursday, 9 June 2016 07:05 (seven years ago) link
you could argue that Perdurance is both his latest electronic and his latest metal album tho
― imago, Thursday, 9 June 2016 07:06 (seven years ago) link
("U&K" = "urgent and key")
― Hi! I'm twice-coloured! (Sund4r), Thursday, 9 June 2016 16:35 (seven years ago) link
Finally listened to this. I'm not exactly in raptures about it but it's decent enough.
― ultros ultros-ghali, Thursday, 9 June 2016 20:41 (seven years ago) link
i sort of thought that after one full listen, in a 'maybe ship of theseus is still the best one' way
but no, twenty or thirty listens later i'm declaring this another forward step in the career of the most exciting musician on earth
your damascene moment awaits. no pressure tho ;)
― imago, Thursday, 9 June 2016 20:48 (seven years ago) link
positive AMG review yesterday
― the world over the crotch. (contenderizer), Friday, 10 June 2016 13:12 (seven years ago) link
I've ordered the CD. Looking forward to it coming!
― Duke, Friday, 10 June 2016 16:25 (seven years ago) link
― the world over the crotch. (contenderizer), Tuesday, June 7, 2016 10:01 AM (3 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
listening now, yes striking me as modern experimental death metal, of the Gorguts or Portal school. However, the vocals, and the general sickliness of the mood could be seen as black metal. Biggest struggle thus far is the drum programming, but liking the overall production
― Dominique, Friday, 10 June 2016 17:15 (seven years ago) link
I was wondering what instruments he used. His guitar is a "cheap Squier" with a replacement 24 fret per octave neck.
https://thegrindthatannoys.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/guitar.png
― Duke, Friday, 10 June 2016 21:34 (seven years ago) link
Any consensus tracks emerging? Of late I have been marginally favouring the even-numbered pieces while adoring the whole
― imago, Tuesday, 21 June 2016 16:40 (seven years ago) link
Thanks. Realistically I'll never find the time to digest all of this. I'll dabble.
― Duke, Monday, 1 January 2024 18:49 (two months ago) link