OK, is this the worst piece of music writing ever?

BM is actually my favorite

I bet dude would like plenty of Mosaic Thump and Bionix

this is a good troll in theory because a lot of 80s hip hop sounds dumb as hell and it's a sacred cow to people who were young then and still refer to it like it was the mindblowingest shit to hear someone rap RIDIN ME LIKE A PONY/NO PHONY/I'M THE REAL MACARONI. but they fucked it up because 3 feet still holds up

yeah -- curiosity about the past isn't obeisance to the past.

btw it's always hip hop who gets reevaluated. The kids aren't going around saying, "Zep with those loud guitars and screaming and shit lol."

cos rock music hasn't changed in 30 years

Yeah, and rock fans are too easy/tired of a target to troll.

Buhloone Mindstate is a masterpiece and holds up amazingly btw. It's paced much more like an Internet-age rap album, too. That's the one I'd be most excited to see writers revisit, especially in the wake of Chance and Kendrick's last few LPs

Zep is a bad example cause their lyrics are nerd fantasy shit and a general whimsical vibe, and lots of kids since have found it corny

that goes for many rap lyrics!

Stakes is High holds up best in my mind but this is saying more about our individual tastes than it is the music i imagine.

and anyways 3 feet high is spectacular, was spectacular, will be spectacular and if you don't feel it you are welcome to have ALL the drake, be my guest

kids still love led zep. it's pathetic. get a life already.

i still can't believe that the violent femmes first album became the soundtrack to...how many generations now? my 13 year old totally digs it. masturbation never gets old.

that's the spirit

haha, a young guy just came in the store and he bought that dj premier Prhyme CD and then he asked me if i had any led zeppelin CDs! you can't make this stuff up...

first he asked me if i had any mf doom...

he was early 20's.

The Violent Femmes first LP is more of an American indie thing though. That band/album didn't really do much here, and never crossed over like R.E.M. did. I didn't even know the Violent Femmes were a thing until I read Americans talking about it online. I don't think I ever read about the Violent Femmes once in a UK music magazine. Seriously.

Even 'Blister In The Sun', their most well-known song here, was kinda obscure until it appeared on an advert or something.

yeah, okay, american teens. white ones. mostly. probably. i can't speak for the Latino community.

BM is actually my favorite

― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, June 3, 2016 10:03 PM (53 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

thirded. total masterpiece. but I still listen to 3ft a lot and still feel the same about it as I did bitd - its masterful pop genius far outweighs the skittishness and the bittiness.

What I found depressing about this piece was the way he seemed to see listening to music he'd not heard as a chore. I really can't identify with that, and never have been able to.

I had a friend at uni in the mid-90s who was really into the first Violent Femmes album so I heard it a lot and really liked it but thought of it as pretty much an obscurity until I got the internet and found out they were huge in the US.

FWIW, Whiney and David have established peace via bagels.

https://twitter.com/_davidturner_/status/738849336218550273

"What I found depressing about this piece was the way he seemed to see listening to music he'd not heard as a chore."

this was totally my least favorite part of the thing. it really made me cringe. well i guess i HAVE to listen to it. which might have been an attempt at humor but....

this was the bit:

I can be pretty hard to please with certain musical aesthetics, and rap music prior to ‘92 — the year I was born, of course — is something I’ve struggled with a lot in my life. Too often, going that far back can feel like a chore.

I've been a music writer long enough to know enough music writers to know it's not a rare opinion but I still just cannot grok it.

also re tweet abt bagels, did this guy write trolly thing and then scour twitter to find people bitching about it without mentioning his twitter name? because that's p depressing to me too.

Even 'Blister In The Sun', their most well-known song here, was kinda obscure until it appeared on an advert or something.

Not even remotely true, they were pretty popular over here.

... I'm talking about at the time, not 10 or 20 year later ffs.

Was gonna say I think they were known at the time (saw a video of them playing the Hacienda I think back in the mid-80s) but by the 90s my impression was they were mostly forgotten apart from the odd music nerd, relatively speaking.

The Pixies killed them off tbh

the first album never went away here though. trust me on that.

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No they weren't, if they were popular here it was with a painfully tiny percentage of music nerds. The Violent Femmes were nothing here.

Pixies were far, far bigger in the UK than Violent Femmes ever were.

tbf the Pixies did have 2 top 40 singles in the UK so yeah

No they weren't, if they were popular here it was with a painfully tiny percentage of music nerds. The Violent Femmes were nothing here.

You were there at the time, were you? LOL a painfully tiny percentage of music nerds, that's indie bands for you.

Pixies were far, far bigger in the UK than Violent Femmes ever were.

First prize to the eminent Historian of US Indie Rock Trends in the United Kingdom (1983-1993).

So you agree with me that in the big scheme of things they were nothing. Okay then, that's that sorted.

That sort of depends on the criteria for being Something in the Big Scheme of Things. But eye bow 2 the superior knowledge U have of music of all ages and all nations.

Thank U.

I didn't realise this was such a contentious issue tbh

Neither did I, fwiw!

Violent Femmes first album stayed big with generations of Australian young teens too, and rightly so, as it's one of the best / most teenage albums ever.

literally just had an argument with a friend who's a year old than me bc he said "illmatic is boring. it was written forever" but also he's not a critic

speaking of young teens, I bought a leather De La Soul medallion from an import record shop in 1989, and Illmatic is really boring

whiney was utterly otm on twitter

about bagels?

yeah whiney thank you for all of that

iirc he didn't mention montreal bagels, so no

This is pretty bad CONSIDERING IT'S NOT EVEN A DEATH GRIPS SONG

http://i67.tinypic.com/24euirc.jpg

I thought Violent Femmes were Australian when I first heard them, which was on a mixtape sent to me by a Melbourne pen pal.

They were really popular in the UK for their first couple of albums! Big venues. Full concert on the TV. Lots of radio play. Continually played in the prefects common room at my high school. This was 83-84 so up there with the Cramps, Ramones etc. Sorry no idea why you guys are debating this but they were. After the third album they broke up and disappeared and the non-chart music scene changed so they got sidelined permanently. Things moved faster then. Add It Up, Gone Daddy Gone, Ugly, Blister in the Sun etc were mainstays of student discos till the end of the 80s though.

i apologize for inadvertently starting a blighty kerfuffle.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUbFtHr3vCE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJXDEynfgR0