HBO's adaptation of Game of Thrones - Thread 2. There are a lot of nerds.

If we're talking about ppl not pulling your weight, in that opening scene you'd have thought Bran would have had it in him to warg into a horse or something actually useful.

Yes, he was there for two episodes of the first season and his miraculous «return» was what the assassins of Jon Snow used to lure him to them so it had been foregrounded. In terms of timing it came off as terribly clichéd though.

thought as much.

Yeah, but at least they didn't kill Meera (xpost)

If we're talking about ppl not pulling your weight, in that opening scene you'd have thought Bran would have had it in him to warg into a horse or something actually useful.

he was already warged out of it - his eyes were rolling back in his head, he had taken too many wargs.

who do u think will have the best post-got career?

Of the actors who were not already established, I'd bet big money on it being Maisie Williams.

It's weird how in the Bran-storyline they've held back on introducing so many big characters. Reek/Ramsay, the Reed siblings, Coldhands/Benjen Stark. In every case the show has introduced them later than the books, and in every case viewers have complained that they ended up underdeveloped and that introductions were clumsy.

Totally forgot about Natalie Dormer being in the Hunger Games movies.

Speaking of Arya, I'm kinda hoping she'll not just run away with the theatre crü but also use them as a means to get to the different places where there are names to be struck off her list. No one will suspect the stupid actors.

― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Wednesday, June 1, 2016 6:34 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

The reverse of that OG Star Trek episode where the former war criminal is hiding out among a Shakespeare troupe . . . OF THE FUTURE.

The showrunners have probably dealt with many fanboys begging to find out what happened to Benjen and the Brutus guy from Rome but the answers seemed to make most viewers wonder who those guys were

ask the maester column is back on an actual web site:

https://theringer.com/ask-the-maester-game-of-thrones-blood-of-my-blood-bran-samwell-benjen-mad-king-c2f4aeb058ee#.syf5bdi9y

In the article, wildfire is briefly mentioned and it made me wonder whether wildfire could be used against the white walkers

x-post: Book readers really wanted to know whether the dude was Benjen Stark, but it isn't really so much because they miss Benjen, as it is because the dude enters the scene in book three, riding on a giant zombie-elk, and is just an all-round mysterious character. Introducing him now, and immediately saying he is Benjen, perhaps misses the point a bit...

Doesn't the show introduce "Reek/Ramsay" at the exact same point the books do? He's not a terribly developed character in the books IIRC.

Nah, Ramsay, under the guise of Reek, is hanging out with Theon as early as book 2.

x-post: Book readers really wanted to know whether the dude was Benjen Stark, but it isn't really so much because they miss Benjen, as it is because the dude enters the scene in book three, riding on a giant zombie-elk, and is just an all-round mysterious character. Introducing him now, and immediately saying he is Benjen, perhaps misses the point a bit...

OTM

Does Cold Hands keep his face covered all the time?

But we have seen cold hands on the show before. Didn't he save Sam and Gilly? Or was that just in the books? I can't remember any more.

p sure that was just the books

"Nah, Ramsay, under the guise of Reek, is hanging out with Theon as early as book 2."

Isn't he in Season 2 of TV show?

ssn 3

It's funny how Tobias Menzies is never gonna not be Brutus

Hmmn I guess they skip the Reek part in Winterfell. Meh.

yeah benjen is somewhat interesting, mainly ppl were interested in cold hands, who is mysterious and awesome and has been around awhile so if he does pop up here in some similar scene in the books definitely not deus ex machina. martin has said that benjen isn't cold hands though so who knows what's going on, they've definitely gone that route in the show. they gave some of strong belwas' stuff to daario (sadly) and daario doesn't look remotely like how anyone pictured him so god knows there's precedent.

btw, and i say this as someone who had little interest in fantasy prior and has little interest in reading fantasy now tbh, but i really do recommend the books. super fun and as quick to read as any popular fiction (i'd say you can read a book covering a season or two seasons in less time than it would take you to watch it). ppl rag martin's prose but it's at least as well written as say harry potter ie it's not stendhal but it's good enough. if you're looking for some beach books to read i'd highly recommend the first three, the third one in particular is one of the most entertaining books i've ever read. the last two are fine, alot of the hate they get is due to structural issues and the relatively long delay in getting them out. they don't move the plot forward as much as you might want, very much cleaning up what went before and setting up what's ahead, but if at that point you're enjoying it enough to nerd out on the wider world etc you'll enjoy them i think.

Jaime said Bronn's name in the last ep so I assume we're gonna see him soon. I miss the Bronn and Tyrion hijinx, but I'll take what I can get.

idg what martin's plan for benjen was/is if he isn't helping out bran.

who do u think will have the best post-got career?

Iwan Rheon is either going to be in everything or he'll never work again

sophie turner is very pretty and she's jean grey now which means she'll get enough steady blockbuster work to do other things, could see her in keira knightly type roles in a few years or taking roles emma watson passes on. if she can sing i could see her being ariel whenever disney gets around to making a live action version of little mermaid. kit harington had a shot w/ some kind of swords and sandals pic a couple of years back and it tanked. i can see jaime lannister (i'm not trying to spell that dude's name from memory) doing more romcom type stuff, popping up as a villain in some other movies. varys would be my go to for any sydney greenstreet type roles in the future.

varys was in that "salmon fishing in the yemen" movie (or whatever it was called) and it took me half the movie to recognize him.

ppl rag martin's prose but it's at least as well written as say harry potter

No way dude. I'm no Potter 4 Life fan, but I have read all those books, and wanted to read all those books (along with my kid), and those things are models of creativity, clarity and concision, even when she goes long (and especially compared to most kid-lit). The most indulgent it gets is the last book, but there she's on a clear mission to wrap things up at least. I'd put Martin somewhere on par with Stephen King: not incompetent, per se, but badly in need of editing, imo, and more indulgent. He's so tied up in the details of world building (which is cool), but he also keeps expanding said world when he should be working more on characters that go deeper than cartoons. Then again, when you keep killing people off it's hard to develop your characters. And when you keep bringing people back from the dead it's sort of tricky, too.

kit harington had a shot w/ some kind of swords and sandals pic a couple of years back and it tanked.

That was the Pompeii movie, right? He seems like a bigger deal now than when that came out.

He was in that funny tennis riff with Andy Samberg.

http://www.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/2015522/rs_560x415-150622112142-1024-7-days-in-hells.jpg

o man i forgot that, yeah i loved 7 days in hell and he was pretty great in that. i can never gage who's gonna have the careers after these things anyway, i thought for sure sawyer from lost was on his way to big time stardom of some sort.

last thing i saw sawyer in was in MI:4 and he lasted about two minutes. i guess he's on that new show 'colony' with what's her face from walking dead/prison break. it's weird who ends up as a star from tv shows, true. who have been the biggest stars to have been primarily known for TV and then completely turn into A-list movie actors in the past couple decades? clooney probably #1....woody harrelson #2? i'm sure i'm forgetting someone.

i want to put my money on walton goggins for being the new warren oates, he's even got the teeth for it. some wise director will give him an 'alfredo garcia' type role one of these days.

Chris Pratt.

yeah Goggins has a future I think

Rowling's prose is terrible imo, what I've seen of GRRM's is quite different but still bad.

You really think her prose is terrible? I think it's strong, especially for a book aimed for kids. (And god knows GRRM lacks that excuse).

slogging through book number 4 at the moment it's very clearly not at all a problem for my daughter, who loves it, so I am happy to indulge her. but from my grumpy adult POV yeah her adherence to a very very strict structure for everything - from the uniform plotting of every single book in the exact same way right down to the sentence structure - drives me fucking insane. "It is *so repetitive*", said this poster as he [insert action] while [insert other action]. There's very little interiority to the characters, her descriptive powers are workmanlike, her world populated with stock tropes and unexamined politics, I really don't like it.

GRRM's excuse is that he's writing for nerds with no taste.

thought it was that he's hungry

Dinner is coming.

It's funny how Tobias Menzies is never gonna not be Brutus

― El Tomboto, Wednesday, June 1, 2016 8:08 AM (1 hour ago)

ehnh, I only saw Rome after I saw him play a virtuous yet embattled government minister in MI-5

I love Walton Goggins ...

if they do a True Detective Season 3, I would very much like W Goggins to star in it

who have been the biggest stars to have been primarily known for TV and then completely turn into A-list movie actors in the past couple decades? clooney probably #1....woody harrelson #2? i'm sure i'm forgetting someone.

― nomar, Wednesday, June 1, 2016

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that's al bundy in the first pic but who's that in the second? val kilmer?

also i didn't know the guy who played al bundy had a big career outside of playing al bundy!

Goggins is very great in American Ultra, reminded me of a young Bill Paxton.

If we're going to nitpick "last couple of decades," their TV shows went off the air 27 and 25 years ago, respectively.

But anyway the real answer is "Will Smith." Or more recently Ryan Gosling.