Search & Destroy: Steve Harley & Cockney Rebel

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Oh crap, Brett Smiley died earlier this year. I was checking on other contenders in the affected glam rock genre. His bio is wonderful, and I was kind of rooting for him.

dlp9001, Tuesday, 31 May 2016 01:09 (seven years ago) link

four years pass...

just dropping by to confirm that The Psychomodo is a goddamned masterpiece

Chip-vill-A (imago), Tuesday, 13 October 2020 21:19 (three years ago) link

the album and the song, but I knew the song already. the album however only now turns out to be a masterpiece

Chip-vill-A (imago), Tuesday, 13 October 2020 21:20 (three years ago) link

three years pass...

I still only know “Make Me Smile (Come Up and See Me)” and “Sebastian.” Maybe I should rectify that.

The Glittering Worldbuilders (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 30 December 2023 23:18 (three months ago) link

There are north of 120 cover versions of the former.

The Glittering Worldbuilders (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 30 December 2023 23:29 (three months ago) link

Is Mr Soft not also famous? or am I just imagining it because it was in an advert once?

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 31 December 2023 00:04 (three months ago) link

I bacame aware of it only within the past hour

The Glittering Worldbuilders (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 31 December 2023 00:08 (three months ago) link

Make Me Smile primary awareness due to an A-side on an EP by the Weddoes which showed up in the import bins in 1990.

TOTP "performance" has some humorous antics in the solo by Peter Solowka on a double necked gtr/bass where he's picking the bass (lower) and fingering the gtr (upper) ca. 1m40s:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKuY2Ebe4So

citation needed (Steve Shasta), Sunday, 31 December 2023 00:47 (three months ago) link

That cover version is supposedly Steve Harley’s favorite.

The Glittering Worldbuilders (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 31 December 2023 00:58 (three months ago) link

Mr Soft terrified me as a child. My nan had a scary clown painting hanging on the wall outside her kitchen, and the two were fundamentally interwoven in my mind.

1980 Jackanory spinoff (Matt #2), Sunday, 31 December 2023 01:21 (three months ago) link

Make Me Smile, one of precious few songs which can count as one of my all-time favourites in the hands of two different bands

Mr. Soft is probably my favourite CR single tho. And the Trebor adverts are excellent fwiw.

you can see me from westbury white horse, Sunday, 31 December 2023 01:30 (three months ago) link

I'd say unless you were there then, nothing other than Make Me Smile and possibly Here Comes the Sun is probably all that famous anymore in the UK. Although I had a question about Judy Teen when I did Popmaster.

you can see me from westbury white horse, Sunday, 31 December 2023 01:32 (three months ago) link

Incredible song, used well in last year's Dali.

clemenza, Sunday, 31 December 2023 01:48 (three months ago) link

Can’t decide what I think of this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ti3U8HGc5Bw

The Glittering Worldbuilders (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 31 December 2023 02:43 (three months ago) link

I'm sure it made perfect sense in the scorching 76 summer heat, cute Moog warbles like scorching pavements, a nostalgic Beatles compilation and some huge Wings songs in the charts.

you can see me from westbury white horse, Sunday, 31 December 2023 03:37 (three months ago) link

your challenge? repetition of scorching

you can see me from westbury white horse, Sunday, 31 December 2023 03:38 (three months ago) link

"Judy Teen" was their second biggest hit, got to No. 5. Another sizeable hit was "Mr. Raffles (Man, It Was Mean)", which I can't remember at all.

The Italian Yob (Tom D.), Sunday, 31 December 2023 10:53 (three months ago) link

Sinkah is right, “Tumbling Down” is not that good.

The Glittering Worldbuilders (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 5 January 2024 16:39 (three months ago) link

First two records are really quite special. The Psychomodo works very well as an album album. First one a bit more up and down. Wheels start to come off w Best Years of Our Lives (really high highs though!). Timeless Flight and Love's a Prima Donna are quite odd. Maybe not great, but worth a gander. Timeless Flight can be a bit boring, but it's also deeply strange, so there's that. The first three tracks of LaPD are a real trip.
The records that I got after that felt pretty terrible to me. The live album and Hobo with a Grin... big yuck. Getting very muso and proggy and recorded in LA with Toto (in a bad way) at that point.

mr.raffles, Friday, 5 January 2024 17:47 (three months ago) link

I think I checked them out because the UK press would always mention Harley when writing about Brett Anderson's voice (typically meant as an insult, if I recall correctly).
Around the same time, I found this on vinyl for like $5. Great introduction to what they do.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Closer_Look_(Steve_Harley_%26_Cockney_Rebel_album)

mr.raffles, Friday, 5 January 2024 18:04 (three months ago) link

two months pass...

RIP Steve Harley. I’m so saddened by this. Fuck cancer.

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2024/mar/17/steve-harley-cockney-rebel-frontman-dies

Requiem for a Dream: The Musical! (Dan Peterson), Sunday, 17 March 2024 19:30 (one month ago) link

Listened to the first two Cockney Rebel albums for the first time ever. I'll have to listen to "Psychomodo" again though before I make my mind up about it.

The first album wasn't really what I expected. I thought it would be a lot artier but most of the tracks are kind of lightweight 70s pop rock. The lack of a prominent guitar and Harley's vocals I suppose add to a sense of novelty, it's quite likeable but there's nothing as catchy as "Judy Teen".

The arty part of the album is restricted to "Sebastian" and "Death Trip", both of which are good songs but are overpowered by ludicrously bombastic orchestral arrangements. It works somewhat in "Sebastian", which is campily overwrought by design but not on "Death Trip" which is otherwise the best song on the album.

Tom D (the first British Asian ILXor) (Tom D.), Tuesday, 19 March 2024 09:29 (one month ago) link

"The Psychomodo" is much more assured and fuller sounding - not sure that the songwriting has necessarily improved to match though. Also not sure why Harley spends so much of the record disguised as Ian Hunter. "Ritz" is a total banger.

Tom D (the first British Asian ILXor) (Tom D.), Tuesday, 19 March 2024 15:08 (one month ago) link

I was enjoying those first two albums the last time I visited them and this thread but didn't listen long enough for them to really sink in.

Don’t Want to Say Goodbye Jumbo (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 19 March 2024 16:11 (one month ago) link

Also still reeling a bit from learning that bassist Paul Jeffreys and his wife died at Lockerbie on their honeymoon flight.

Don’t Want to Say Goodbye Jumbo (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 19 March 2024 16:13 (one month ago) link

Those two albums were hugely influential on young me. I can still sing along pretty much word for ridiculous word. I tried to convert all my friends but, as with Roxy Music and Sparks, getting past the vocals was a tough sell.

It’s weird that the debut can be simultaneously thinly produced and ludicrously bombastic, but both are true. (I love the orchestrations though.) The wiki entry has some good tidbits. The violinist recalls: "The orchestra we used mucked it up as well. I've only played violin for about three years, but I was quite a bit better than a lot of those blokes, and they've been playing donkeys years. They had the technical ability, but they had no feel."

Second album is better produced, but I miss some ofthe shorter, poppier songs like “Hideaway.”

Note: if you’re listening on Spotify or similar you miss that the end of “Ritz” trails off into a locked groove at the end of the vinyl. Spotify did just play me the b-side “Such a Dream,” which I had never heard. What a bizarre song.

Thanks for chiming in Tom D.!

Requiem for a Dream: The Musical! (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 19 March 2024 16:17 (one month ago) link

I have a classic case of loving "the wrong album" (not that I don't love the right ones) but I had always seen the name Cockney Rebel and found Timeless Flight at a used record store once and bought it.

It really got it's hooks into me, from what I read it was not as well loved, but it hit some kind of middle ground between Countdown to Ecstasy and Hunky Dory that just hits me right.

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 19 March 2024 16:29 (one month ago) link

I think I sounded a bit more critical than I meant to. Both albums are definitely worth listening to. I'd only ever heard the singles.

Tom D (the first British Asian ILXor) (Tom D.), Tuesday, 19 March 2024 16:30 (one month ago) link

Timeless Flight is supposedly Harley’s favorite of his records. I love it too. I was amazed long ago to move into a shared roommate situation with a guy I didn’t know, and he had a cassette with that on one side and Dark Side of the Moon on the other. Maybe the Alan Parsons connection? Although Harley self produced Timeless Flight.

Requiem for a Dream: The Musical! (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 19 March 2024 16:39 (one month ago) link

The overblown orchestration on "Death Trip" is probably my favorite part of that whole album!

it hit some kind of middle ground between Countdown to Ecstasy and Hunky Dory that just hits me right.

Whoa, I should listen to Timeless Flight.

Vaguely Threatening CAPTCHAs, Tuesday, 19 March 2024 19:31 (one month ago) link

I don’t know if I hear Steely Dan in it, but it’s lower key and less weird than the preceding records.

“Death Trip” is so amazing, that folky (for lack of a better term) middle section reminds me of The Incredible String Band. And it made me look up ipomoea.

We'll grow sweet Ipomoea to make us feel much freer
Then take a pinch of Schemeland and turn it into Dreamland

Requiem for a Dream: The Musical! (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 19 March 2024 22:15 (one month ago) link

Funny you should say that but I kept thinking of Malcolm Le Maistre's songs for the Incredible String Band when I was listening to these albums.

Tom D (the first British Asian ILXor) (Tom D.), Tuesday, 19 March 2024 22:39 (one month ago) link

Harley came from a busking and folkie background, so it’s not surprising that ISB is within that Venn diagram.

Requiem for a Dream: The Musical! (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 19 March 2024 22:51 (one month ago) link

Harley came from a busking and folkie background, so it’s not surprising that ISB is within that Venn diagram.

Requiem for a Dream: The Musical! (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 19 March 2024 22:51 (one month ago) link

He said, twice

Requiem for a Dream: The Musical! (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 19 March 2024 22:53 (one month ago) link

Played this clip (not quite the original, I don't think, but close enough, and it's got lyrics) for a 2/3 class today. The fact that he died was interesting to them, so they listened intently. Right place at the right time: they were saved from a life of never having heard this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yU6D6ef0prw

clemenza, Tuesday, 19 March 2024 22:54 (one month ago) link

I never thought this was a great idea even when I was at the height of my Harley fandom.

Requiem for a Dream: The Musical! (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 19 March 2024 22:58 (one month ago) link

What was a good idea?

Don’t Want to Say Goodbye Jumbo (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 19 March 2024 23:07 (one month ago) link

Or rather not a great idea

Don’t Want to Say Goodbye Jumbo (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 19 March 2024 23:07 (one month ago) link

Covering “Here Comes The Sun.”

Requiem for a Dream: The Musical! (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 19 March 2024 23:46 (one month ago) link

Oh, yeah. Was that video “Here Comes the Sun”? Doesn’t look like it

Don’t Want to Say Goodbye Jumbo (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 19 March 2024 23:48 (one month ago) link

I thought you might mean ISB center of “Death Trip”

Don’t Want to Say Goodbye Jumbo (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 19 March 2024 23:48 (one month ago) link

Gah, I’m a dork. Clemenza’s vid was “Make Me Smile.” Which I do like a lot.

Requiem for a Dream: The Musical! (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 19 March 2024 23:57 (one month ago) link

Heh. It happens

Don’t Want to Say Goodbye Jumbo (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 00:00 (four weeks ago) link

Listening to The Human Menagerie deluxe again now. It’s on the verge of sounding too thin and twee for me and yet, and yet I really dig it for some reason.

Don’t Want to Say Goodbye Jumbo (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 00:03 (four weeks ago) link

Maybe you were looking at the video for “Here Comes the Sun” that I posted at the end of last year, which prompted the following response from one ILX0r:

I'm sure it made perfect sense in the scorching 76 summer heat, cute Moog warbles like scorching pavements, a nostalgic Beatles compilation and some huge Wings songs in the charts.

Don’t Want to Say Goodbye Jumbo (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 00:11 (four weeks ago) link

i love make me smile and it always makes me think that robyn hitchcock must have been a big fan.

scott seward, Wednesday, 20 March 2024 00:31 (four weeks ago) link

Onto The Psychomodo. "Ritz" seems to quote the stereotypical Morricone Spaghetti Western hook.

Don’t Want to Say Goodbye Jumbo (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 00:38 (four weeks ago) link

This conversation prompted me to pull out Stripped to the Bare Bones. If you find those early records too twee, this is a good antidote. The songs hold up, and it really brings out the Dylanisms. I would have given anything to have experienced one of these live shows.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stripped_to_the_Bare_Bones

Requiem for a Dream: The Musical! (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 02:57 (four weeks ago) link

Looks great, thanks. Hard to access a streaming copy easily though.

Don’t Want to Say Goodbye Jumbo (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 20 March 2024 19:38 (four weeks ago) link


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