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Basically he copied his mind into Peter's and vice versa, but he needed Peter's memories in order to take over his life, so Peter's not really gone. A little Jiminy Cricket-ish, but not irritatingly so.

Otto as Spider-Man isn't really a "good person," he's still a narcissist and has what amounts to a Spider-Militia on call. But what he does do is really throw all of his potential into creating Parker Industries, which is something Peter could have done but never really had the confidence to do.

μpright mammal (mh), Friday, 27 May 2016 14:33 (seven years ago) link

But if I was a young fan when Dr Octopus taken over Parker's body, I fear how I might have acted online

I was thinking about the late 80s Dr Fate comic - Doctor Fate went from being a man, to being a man/woman hybrid, to being a woman, to being a man, then a woman, etc.

Maybe I read the wrong publications (and admittedly it was a C-list title) but I don't remember the gender swap being an issue. Right-wing nerd whining about gender/race issues seems like a very 2000-2010s thing - at least, the internet has broadened its reach from nut fringe to not-at-all-fringe.

Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 27 May 2016 14:38 (seven years ago) link

Where does Spider-Man's radioactive sperm fit in all of this?

EZ Snappin, Friday, 27 May 2016 15:44 (seven years ago) link

deep in the fallopian tubes iirc

ulysses, Friday, 27 May 2016 15:46 (seven years ago) link

Right-wing nerd whining about gender/race issues seems like a very 2000-2010s thing - at least, the internet has broadened its reach from nut fringe to not-at-all-fringe.

― Chuck_Tatum, Friday, May 27, 2016 9:38 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I think the only appropriate response to this recent hue and cry is for the creative community to do whatever they can to induce mass MRA aneurysms all the time.

I Have A Hot Dog Stuck To My Neck (Old Lunch), Friday, 27 May 2016 15:53 (seven years ago) link

I support this strategy

μpright mammal (mh), Friday, 27 May 2016 15:54 (seven years ago) link

Yeah I am now completely behind the Captain Nazi plot twist after seeing all the entitled online whining

Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 27 May 2016 16:53 (seven years ago) link

So many people are saying it's an insult to Jewish Kirby & Simon but I never thought Hydra were supposed to be Nazis, aren't they more like communists inspired by Russia and China?

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 27 May 2016 17:51 (seven years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/CeCfOzS.png

I love the first appearance of Hydra where their leader has a giant rotary dial on his wall with pictures of animals on it. did anyone ever bring this concept back in later years?

soref, Friday, 27 May 2016 18:03 (seven years ago) link

Hydra first appeared in Strange Tales #135. In its original continuity, it was headed by nondescript businessman Arnold Brown, who was killed as S.H.I.E.L.D. apparently crushed the organization. Hydra soon returned, however, headed by Baron Wolfgang von Strucker, with the support of the Nazi Red Skull; Hydra's changing origin was one of Marvel's earliest retcons. After its initial defeat, several of its branches, such as its scientific branch A.I.M. (Advanced Idea Mechanics) and the Secret Empire, became independent.

so yeah, the very second appearance has HYDRA linked the the Red Skull and Strucker, both nazis

μpright mammal (mh), Friday, 27 May 2016 18:13 (seven years ago) link

dial h for hydra naval action sea dragons look like some grant morrison shit for sure

ulysses, Friday, 27 May 2016 18:30 (seven years ago) link

nice beaver

benzarro ghazarri (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 27 May 2016 18:57 (seven years ago) link

the big hydra wheel is kind of like the round table of Hickman's Secret Warriors run that connects it to the ancient SHIELD series he did. it's star signs instead of animals, though.

μpright mammal (mh), Friday, 27 May 2016 19:02 (seven years ago) link

I really hope it was an homage to the animal wheel

μpright mammal (mh), Friday, 27 May 2016 19:03 (seven years ago) link

Dear Brian Michael Bendis, it's clear that you do layouts for the comics you write, which is cool and all but please listen when I tell you: these two page layouts you do are always confusing. Always. When a panel on the left-hand page ends at the gutter, the reader's natural inclination is to move to the panel below it on the same page, not the adjacent panel on the right-hand page. Please stop doing that because there's no reason to do that. Thanks!

I Do Dumb Things And Then I Cry (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 1 June 2016 02:01 (seven years ago) link

You could stop reading Bendis comics?

glandular lansbury (sic), Wednesday, 1 June 2016 02:17 (seven years ago) link

I don't think I can. He completes me.

I Do Dumb Things And Then I Cry (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 1 June 2016 02:20 (seven years ago) link

The guided view on the Marvel app is made for Bendis. Suddenly all the micropanels make sense and the bad page geography disappears.

Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 1 June 2016 05:59 (seven years ago) link

Oh god, Bendis two pagers. One of his books has six of them. IN A ROW.

I've gotten used to hunting a bit for the reading order. I'm more annoyed that he abuses spreads for stuff that doesn't particularly benefit from it.

salsa shark, Wednesday, 1 June 2016 18:08 (seven years ago) link

I've come to the conclusion that I hate reading Bendis

DJP, Wednesday, 1 June 2016 18:28 (seven years ago) link

This is tangential but I wanna ask: Who among you still buys individual floppies on a monthly basis? And why?

ulysses, Wednesday, 1 June 2016 20:38 (seven years ago) link

i do! i hate hate hate reading comics on a screen and i like the weekly comic book store ritual.

adam, Wednesday, 1 June 2016 20:58 (seven years ago) link

i don't really buy marvel or dc books on a consistent basis though because i have learned my lesson (over and over again)

adam, Wednesday, 1 June 2016 20:59 (seven years ago) link

I got used to screen reading and ran out of shelf space. After i filled seven bookshelves, I am now on new book lockdown.
I more or less NEVER enjoyed the weekly ritual of going to the store; always feel silently judged by the behind the counter guy. Probably just me.

ulysses, Wednesday, 1 June 2016 21:02 (seven years ago) link

I don't buy anything regularly but what I do buy is floppies or trade paperbacks

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 1 June 2016 21:04 (seven years ago) link

i got an "excellent choice" today in re: new shigeru mizuki kitaro collection /basks in forbidden planet employee approval

adam, Wednesday, 1 June 2016 21:11 (seven years ago) link

i can understand buying trades, i have a harder time understanding buying floppies (especially if they're from DC/Image/Marvel). Resale value is basically nil and you run the chance of missing an issue and having an incomplete story... plus the little buggers are hard to store!

ulysses, Wednesday, 1 June 2016 21:16 (seven years ago) link

I make an effort to pick up the occasional stack of issues when it's a low-selling series I want to make sure they'll be interested in collecting

μpright mammal (mh), Wednesday, 1 June 2016 21:30 (seven years ago) link

Man, Civil War II is awful.

Frederik B, Wednesday, 1 June 2016 21:34 (seven years ago) link

Nothing makes sense, the 'moral argument' is ludicrous, not a single memorable line or drawing. Just pure unrelenting Bendesque dullness.

Frederik B, Wednesday, 1 June 2016 21:35 (seven years ago) link

How is the repro on the new Shang Chi omnibus?

scarcity festival (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 1 June 2016 21:53 (seven years ago) link

I buy floppies because I like the medium. They are digestible in 5-10 min and easy enough to throw into longboxes.

DJP, Wednesday, 1 June 2016 22:23 (seven years ago) link

when i hit thirty longboxes, i migrated everything to bookshelves. the pokemon collector in me gets obsessive about full runs and that way lies madness and poverty. Trades saved my soul.

ulysses, Wednesday, 1 June 2016 22:27 (seven years ago) link

would any of y'all want a fancy wooden longbox, or would you feel weird paying more for your box than the comics inside it?

Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 1 June 2016 22:41 (seven years ago) link

i've known at least one guy who used full longboxes as a boxspring for his mattress.

ulysses, Wednesday, 1 June 2016 22:43 (seven years ago) link

I buy floppies because I enjoy being part of a cultural moment, that this is comic book day and I'm finding out the same time as hundreds of thousands of other people, a shared communion.

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 1 June 2016 23:42 (seven years ago) link

And while I'm there, I might as well pay for all the books that aren't The Wicked and The Divine, as well.

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 1 June 2016 23:42 (seven years ago) link

I regularly buy an embarrassing number of floppies, mostly Marvel. And trades of older stuff. At a steep discount, but still. You would probably be alternately impressed and ashamed. And, yeah, space has not yet but probably will start to become an issue soon.

What's Your Definition of a Dirty Baby? (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 1 June 2016 23:47 (seven years ago) link

i would be afraid i'd fuck up my books putting them in that thing but i gather you'd be meant to have them mylar bagged and boarded if you were at that level of collectordom. Nice handiwork nonetheless.

ulysses, Thursday, 2 June 2016 00:04 (seven years ago) link

I gave up floppy buying on the reg five years ago, went back to doing so weekly when a comic shop was on my commute route (on the road I drove most of the way in a neighborhood where the speed limit was 25 so I couldn't not stop) and am mostly digital now

Six or seven years ago I moved temporarily to a smaller space and gave away 90% of my comics. Just took them to a well-connected friend's place and said "find these a good home"

μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 2 June 2016 00:42 (seven years ago) link

ownership and reading of floppies has always seemed ephemeral, even if people collect them. I've mentioned it elsewhere on ilx, but when I was probably 13 years old, a neighbor who owned a rental house had his tenant bail and the guy forgot a few longboxes that had pretty much every x-men issue from the Phoenix saga to around when Jim Lee started, along with a lot of other random comics of the era. I carefully read all those and returned them.

μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 2 June 2016 00:45 (seven years ago) link

You better be pretty strong if you are moving around full wooden long boxes.

One odd thing I do notice about new comics is that they seem to be quite a bit heavier than the old newsprint comics, even more so for a box of trades.

earlnash, Thursday, 2 June 2016 00:51 (seven years ago) link

you can set coffee on them multiple times before the rings soak through the cover

μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 2 June 2016 00:53 (seven years ago) link

This is tangential but I wanna ask: Who among you still buys individual floppies on a monthly basis? And why?

I'm only buying monthly at the moment while Prophet is wrapping up, and it'll drop down to every few months after that. If I'm living in America next year near a shop that gets Retrofit and Youth In Decline and Koyama and Oily and the like, I'll be back to it - but Diamond has destroyed distribution for individual creative voices: I've bought more comics in the US and Canada in the last three years than I have in my local comic shop.

Prophet is only because I've been following it for four years or whatever and want to ride the story out - I love the comic book format, but loathe coverless books, which would rule out the rest of Marvel, Image & DC if the content didn't already. I bailed out on Island after it went coverless, or that would be one to keep a monthly visit ticking over. (Sometimes takes me seven weeks to make it in, though.)

glandular lansbury (sic), Thursday, 2 June 2016 01:08 (seven years ago) link

Possibly because I own a store I mostly read via digital (mostly Marvel Unlimited, some purchased on Comixology) unless I take damaged copies home with me (I pretty much always get destroy orders for them so I read and recycle).

It's too hard for me to keep up since I see so many titles every week and by the time I've unpacked and sorted on Tuesday I can no longer think about what I might want to read. Never had the collector gene so stacking boxes of them isn't for me and too often with floppies I'll give away or recycle an issue and have forgotten what happened (esp with long layoffs ala Saga or Sex Criminals) in the issue I no longer have from months ago.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Thursday, 2 June 2016 01:30 (seven years ago) link

Although I buy a ton of floppies and appreciate having a physical thing made of paper over pixels, I don't have any special attachment to them as floppies. It'd be awesome if I could eventually trade a lot of them off for their equivalent collected editions.

What's Your Definition of a Dirty Baby? (Old Lunch), Thursday, 2 June 2016 02:18 (seven years ago) link

sorry, what's a "coverless" book?

milo, I would love to hear your thoughts on piracy as i am a marvel unlimited subscriber and a fairly unrepentant torrenter of things I solely want to read once and discard or keep as a reference library or are simply unavailable in the states. I still buy creator made material either on the web or at cons and trades at used book stores or amazon or ebay but I gave up on buying floppies more or less at the end of brubaker's run on daredevil. Am i evil? It's okay, you can tell me.

ulysses, Thursday, 2 June 2016 02:58 (seven years ago) link

i might add to that guilt ridden screed that I make a point of blowing fifty bucks at any comic book store i go into more or less as penance but that often leads to me buying stuff I don't care for which keeps me away from comic books, vicious cycle

ulysses, Thursday, 2 June 2016 03:07 (seven years ago) link


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