Oh no, I have an (admittedly resistable) urge to buy Prince's "Emancipation" set!
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 24 May 2016 20:11 (seven years ago) link
i.e. Emancipation is essential
Which is ironic, because there is so much about it that is not.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 24 May 2016 20:20 (seven years ago) link
Like the artwork?
― Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 24 May 2016 21:36 (seven years ago) link
https://youtu.be/rDFXlYfEHuI
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 26 May 2016 20:01 (seven years ago) link
the SHOCK of the NEW
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 26 May 2016 21:07 (seven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baAHKgJmygM
― Son of Shaftway (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 26 May 2016 21:55 (seven years ago) link
Also, even though it is nowhere to be found on the internet I am quite sure that decades ago I read an interview with Randy Newman in which he told the interviewer "Springsteen couldn't shine Prince's shoes as a songwriter."
― Son of Shaftway (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 26 May 2016 23:19 (seven years ago) link
could it from old billboard quoting playboy
under nelson george's rhythm and blues column
― jbn, Friday, 27 May 2016 00:42 (seven years ago) link
Thanks!
― Son of Shaftway (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 27 May 2016 01:04 (seven years ago) link
This was around the time Newman was mocking Springsteen in "My Life Is Good" (well, a couple years after)
― goodoldneon, Friday, 27 May 2016 01:12 (seven years ago) link
that was very sweet of burt to say that, unprompted. but did he really say prince was a better dancer than MJ?
― StillAdvance, Friday, 27 May 2016 08:47 (seven years ago) link
Not sure. I got lost at a few points about what he was trying to say and that was one of them.
― Son of Shaftway (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 27 May 2016 10:31 (seven years ago) link
I feel like he was trying to say something to the effect that "his only real competition was Michael Jackson who, by almost any reckoning was the better dancer but even in that area Prince could more than hold his own, etc." but he was overcome by emotion and time restraints so he couldn't quite produce the necessary elegant formulation.
― Son of Shaftway (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 27 May 2016 10:55 (seven years ago) link
That was like Simon Cowell last night, he tried to say "You're likeable, I wish people liked me like that" or something, and he ended up saying "You're likeable, I wish you liked me"
― Mark G, Friday, 27 May 2016 11:04 (seven years ago) link
Ha, good example.
The one celeb commentary that I found a wee bit annoying was maybe the one from Lionel Ritchie.
― Son of Shaftway (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 27 May 2016 11:09 (seven years ago) link
semi-related - tom pettys quotes in that NYT piece on the while my guitar gently weeps performance at the RNRHOF ceremony reeked of BS. his face did not look like he was telling prince to keep playing like he was. he looked rankled.
― StillAdvance, Friday, 27 May 2016 11:10 (seven years ago) link
totally. he's like "this is supposed to be a dignified tribute and here comes this showoff"
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Friday, 27 May 2016 11:49 (seven years ago) link
"keep playing like you are (see what happens)"
― Mark G, Friday, 27 May 2016 12:13 (seven years ago) link
Just think of what might have ensued if he HAD gone to the "We Are The World" recording session instead of to the club. "We are the world... Kerrang!" etc.
thought this was a good tribute - http://pitchfork.com/news/65644-watch-neon-indian-and-friends-cover-princes-pop-life/but im a NI fan, so...― StillAdvance, Tuesday, May 24, 2016 6:27 AM
― StillAdvance, Tuesday, May 24, 2016 6:27 AM
― Son of Shaftway (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 27 May 2016 12:34 (seven years ago) link
Right. Tom petty is known for his highly expressive face and the pure joy he exudes therefrom. On the rare occasions that famous sunny smile is absent, ohh-wee, he's wall-punching pissed off.
― Three Word Username, Friday, 27 May 2016 18:01 (seven years ago) link
It is a similar fine distinction to that of figuring out when TWU is in a bad mood vs. when he is merely let down once again by the faulty reasoning of his inferiors.
― Son of Shaftway (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 27 May 2016 18:06 (seven years ago) link
If modern people being dumbasses made me mad, that throbbing vein in my temple would have burst long ago.
― Three Word Username, Friday, 27 May 2016 20:37 (seven years ago) link
http://i3.ytimg.com/vi/Vg5gPnUdbc8/hqdefault.jpgYour world frightens and confuses me
― Son of Shaftway (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 27 May 2016 23:09 (seven years ago) link
would rather the grammy-type tributes be handled by the likes of janelle monae / miguel. obvious choices but good ones.xxp― dc, Friday, April 22, 2016 6:05 PM (1 month ago)
xxp
― dc, Friday, April 22, 2016 6:05 PM (1 month ago)
― Son of Shaftway (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 28 May 2016 00:12 (seven years ago) link
I just rewatched "Gently Weeps," if you look around the 5 minute mark you can see Petty and Prince clicking in together. I don't think Petty's bullshitting, I think that that was probably a fun thing to be part of.
― A nationally known air show announcer/personality (tipsy mothra), Saturday, 28 May 2016 03:09 (seven years ago) link
janelle did that at the BET tribute in 2010. her voice seems a bit ill equipped for it, not sure why. or maybe shes trying too hard.
― StillAdvance, Saturday, 28 May 2016 06:51 (seven years ago) link
http://pitchfork.com/features/greil-marcus-real-life-rock-top-10/9895-i-need-to-scream-what-it-means-to-be-a-fan/
small greil marcus bit on prince, which includes the line - “Does this mean that because he died intestate his lawyers stopped enforcing his copyright claims for fear of not getting paid?”
im still not sure why but im assuming this is it. i suppose even this, which he was so focused on while alive, wasnt planned for.
― StillAdvance, Saturday, 28 May 2016 06:58 (seven years ago) link
Qui sait?
In any case, have been meaning to watch this New York Dirty Mind tour show:https://youtu.be/gyh2AFZnicQ
― Why You Wanna Treeship So Bad? (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 28 May 2016 18:03 (seven years ago) link
Hang onhttp://www.youtube.com?v=gyh2AFZnicQ
Hang on.. must..get this.. right
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyh2AFZnicQ
― Why You Wanna Treeship So Bad? (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 28 May 2016 18:08 (seven years ago) link
Original, Family version of "Nothing Compares 2 U" is somewhat similar in spirit to "(There's) Always Something There to Remind Me." No wonder Burt Bacharach was a fan.
― Why You Wanna Treeship Borad? (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 28 May 2016 22:14 (seven years ago) link
Still keep turning over in my head what is so compelling about the guy's work and how to say anything about it without either damning with faint praise, overstating the obvious, lapsing into rock crit parody or rehashing all the many good points already on the thread. He was just some kind of incredible combination of gifts and talents and work ethic plus esthetic concepts, like a great studio house band and songwriting arranging team (Funk Brothers + Holland Dozier Holland) + super-energetic rock band (The Cavern Club/ Early Beatles) + old time tunesmith (Irving Berlin) + ntergender/pan-human pop/funk/rock cartoon afronaut (sly &the famiy stone/jimi/p-funk) all rolled into one five foot two package, with one decade in which he was at the very top of his game, on top of the world, firing on all cylinders, working on all kinds of projects and plenty of other decades in which he did all kinds of other pretty high quality stuff some of which we haven't even heard yet.
― Why You Wanna Treeship Borad? (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 28 May 2016 22:38 (seven years ago) link
(Hoping that perhaps writing a sufficiently cringeworthy post may perhaps break the spell)
― Why You Wanna Treeship Borad? (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 28 May 2016 23:11 (seven years ago) link
That's a good post, James Redd.
― Iago Galdston, Sunday, 29 May 2016 01:19 (seven years ago) link
Great post, tbh it still makes me think why this guy declined in the studio whilst still in his 30s
― Master of Treacle, Sunday, 29 May 2016 02:14 (seven years ago) link
I'm sure there are other examples to prove the opposite but gross generalization, most artists I like have a ten year period when they are untouchable and then everything after that with exceptions is like the genius has left but they keep going.
― Iago Galdston, Sunday, 29 May 2016 02:33 (seven years ago) link
tbh it's the way some people speak of him as this all-time synthesist of all things pop music, I find it hard to balance or reconcile either extreme.
― Master of Treacle, Sunday, 29 May 2016 04:03 (seven years ago) link
Liner notes for the comp released: https://medium.com/@anildash/princes-own-liner-notes-on-his-greatest-hits-3a7baf4aec66#.3v2sfsxu3
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 29 May 2016 18:01 (seven years ago) link
B-b-but where is the note for "La, La, La, He, He, Hee"?
― Why You Wanna Treeship Borad? (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 29 May 2016 18:31 (seven years ago) link
CREAM"PRN wrote this standing in a mirror."
― Chuck_Tatum, Sunday, 29 May 2016 20:41 (seven years ago) link
I'm left wondering what the group vocal of '1999' sounded like!
― Turrican, Sunday, 29 May 2016 20:55 (seven years ago) link
I''ve no real idea as to why the decline happened but it Dec had something to do with him falling as a commercial artist after purple rain. Barman was a hit obv but by then I think he just wanted to show he still had it in billboard terms. That became his goal. Plus in MPLS jam and Lewis had put out good live band RnB records by new groups like mint condition and that plus Prince getting swept up in ppl saying husvrecords lost their RnB roots, started paying too much attention to the expectations/bill shut spread by others. I mean he did the black album as ppl thought he lost his funk but housequake came out just a year earlier! Just a sudden lack of confidence really. Strange how it seemed to happen so fast.
― StillAdvance, Sunday, 29 May 2016 21:23 (seven years ago) link
Argh. Auto correct issues.
― StillAdvance, Sunday, 29 May 2016 21:24 (seven years ago) link
very few artists have been able to come down gracefully from world-conquering peaks like Purple Rain. it fucks with their head
― flappy bird, Sunday, 29 May 2016 21:33 (seven years ago) link
Those liner notes are great. Has anyone heard Patrice Rushen?
― goodoldneon, Sunday, 29 May 2016 21:34 (seven years ago) link
Oops, never mind, I guess there's a thread: RFI: Patrice Rushen
― goodoldneon, Sunday, 29 May 2016 21:35 (seven years ago) link
Xpost - yeah. But still incredible that he had a new album out a year later that sounded so different.
― StillAdvance, Sunday, 29 May 2016 21:43 (seven years ago) link
Something people forget re:Batman soundtrack is a big part of it's success vs. Prince's immediate prior releases was that it was the Batman soundtrack . That movie was a massive phenomenon at the time, anything Bat-related selling like proverbial hotcakes.
― Now I Know How Joan of Arcadia Felt (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 29 May 2016 22:18 (seven years ago) link
im prob just repeating the usual thoughts around this period, but yes, graffiti bridge, the year after, didnt exactly remind anyone he was still a chart contender. so with D&P, he def had something to prove. and i think with less confidence about his position/status in the market, he felt he had to play it a little safer than in years past.
could also just be that after a spectacularly productive first decade, the inspiration was starting to run a little dry. i remember that spin cover piece in 1991, even then, it was quite well discussed that he hadnt had a proper hit in some time, and that regardless of the musical content itself, his place as a leader in music was no longer seen as what it used to be. there was a timeout piece the year after where he was kinda mocked in a review of a harlem show for trying to compete with OPP and hip hop tracks that were ruling at the time. tbh, it was the rap element that made this stuff so easy to mock/made it seem lesser. if that wasnt there, the albums would prob be viewed with less prejudice.
― StillAdvance, Sunday, 29 May 2016 22:34 (seven years ago) link