Vinyl records make a return

interesting!

perhaps download revenues top both Youtube and vinyl, wonder what the Spotify/Tidal numbers are

The BPI called on the government to fix the so-called “value grab” by websites such as YouTube who, it said, paid lower royalties than subscription audio streaming services such as Spotify and Deezer, which contributed a combined £146.1m.

That YouTube number is shocking. Why do the labels keep going along with it?

the weird thing is many of the anti spotify people will use youtube.

many? all!

i use youtube. i love youtube. i'm not anti-spotify though. i do get spotify fatigue very quickly. the canned claustrophobic sound of spotify makes me itchy after awhile and i can only take about 45 minutes of it.

in my defense, i have never downloaded a CD off of the internet or burned a CD or saved a CD to my computer in my life.

i do believe in home taping though.

did seem really fishy to me when youtube started just grabbing stuff off of the internet when i went looking for stuff. what's the deal with that?

What do you mean by that?

does spotify have some discernible lower quality to its sound than you would otherwise expect from 320kbps streaming? I never really noticed anything canned or claustrophobic about it, but I might not be paying close enough attention.

"What do you mean by that?"

i'll type something in and a video will show up with no views and it's published that day and its just a picture of a CD with the title on it. looks like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbvAMy4bXPw

i mean they come directly from CDBaby and places like that but they seem auto-generated.

http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCbZL04aQ6XeDey4btADmmHw

basically stuff that isn't on youtube will magically be on youtube if you search for it on youtube sometimes. and i don't know how that works. money-wise.

"Provided to YouTube by The state51 Conspiracy"

state51 conspiracy is a digital distribution house, so i think these are legit.

like, does o-zone the don know he's magically on youtube? and does he get anything out of it? i doubt he ever will.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urYjh4MMDRw

anyway, this is a fairly recent thing. it didn't used to work that way.

they must mention it on sites like cdbaby if you use their services: "if you put your stuff here and someone types your name on youtube it will appear there. just so you know."

if they provide the videos and the correct iswc / isrc / whatever then they will be paid for plays of those videos.

just seems weird. they probably need more views than they will ever get to make any money and the 20 people interested in their music will listen to it on youtube and never buy their cdbaby cd.

they must mention it on sites like cdbaby if you use their services: "if you put your stuff here and someone types your name on youtube it will appear there. just so you know."

― scott seward, Friday, May 20, 2016 12:18 PM (46 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Not in so many words, but apparently enough to cover themselves legally. I used CDBaby for a couple of things years ago, before youtube existed, and whaddyaknow, there's my shit on youtube!

went into my least favorite record store yesterday. things have actually gotten worse. two of my favorite pricings were a used copy of Trans for $35 (justified by a sticker saying it is a 1st edition with a typo) and a used copy of Katy Lied for $25. I hope every track is misspelled on that one!

another $100 record had a sticker that said "listed at $150 on amazon!"

"and a used copy of Katy Lied for $25. I hope every track is misspelled on that one!"

there is actually a copy of Gaucho inside it. very rare.

basically stuff that isn't on youtube will magically be on youtube if you search for it on youtube sometimes

http://www.statista.com/statistics/259477/hours-of-video-uploaded-to-youtube-every-minute/

it seems like youtube has upwards of 500 hours of video uploaded to it every minute. chance are if you are searching for something it is going to turn up eventually, if only temporarily.

you think 15 bucks is too much for a really clean copy of the first nitzer ebb album? u.s. copy on geffen. 1987 pressing. i could be nice and just put 10 on it...

there isn't a single person in the u.s. selling a copy of the nitzer ebb album on discogs. kinda hard to believe. okay, 15 bucks in the store and 20 on discogs. win/win!

went into my least favorite record store yesterday. things have actually gotten worse. two of my favorite pricings were a used copy of Trans for $35 (justified by a sticker saying it is a 1st edition with a typo) and a used copy of Katy Lied for $25. I hope every track is misspelled on that one!

― bonita pooleymoon (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, May 20, 2016 1:23 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

another $100 record had a sticker that said "listed at $150 on amazon!"

― bonita pooleymoon (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, May 20, 2016 1:24 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I don't why these situations / types of stores are so common around the country, but it's fascinating to see so many of them alive at this point. You'd think they'd be the first to die.

Eh, Scott I'd have done $10 for it.

i never see their records on vinyl anymore actually...

it's like front 242. used to see their records everywhere not that long ago. or maybe it was long ago...

i'm actually charging extra five bucks for the near mint vinyl + original inner sleeve. if it had been VG+ i would have done 10.

it's like front 242. used to see their records everywhere not that long ago. or maybe it was long ago...

― scott seward, Friday, May 20, 2016 1:38 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I've never seen anyone buying them, though I'm sure someone does.

Front 242 rule.

xp 15 is fair IMO

scott should start a thread where we can price a small selection of his bargain bin. maybe he could slap a "priced by strangers!" sticker on each.

though I would love to see people look at a $100 copy of Tango in the Night with the sticker "Alfred told me to!", it is probably not the best way to run a business

front 242 wax trax reissues used to be everywhere for cheap. i can sell the hell out of geography.

xp LOL

I bought Tango on vinyl BITD, disk is so thin you could pick your teeth with it

My Tango has a bad place on track two on both sides (probably the same bad place).

slap a "has two side As!" sticker on it and sell for $650

On behalf of Chuck Eddy, I'd like to price all your moderately-credible hard rock at $5. ANGEL CITY MOTHERFUCKERS

ANGEL CITY MOTHERFUCKERS

words to live by

my friend mike came in during the noise nomads matinee today and i sold him the nitzer ebb for ten bucks. #friendsandfamilydiscount

I paid $1 for the first one and $2.99 for the second, but I definitely got more than $10 worth of entertainment from each over the years so I'd say your friend did ok.

I don't remember much Front 242 vinyl being around in Cleveland in the late '80s/early '90s. I think Back Catalogue was the first import CD I ever bought, or maybe it was the first Throwing Muses album. Seemed very exotic buying a disc without a longbox.

http://scoot.net/gallery/bbs/IMG_4482.JPG

Returning to the crazily-overpriced records point: at the Strand, everything is $25. This is already a price point where I almost certainly will not buy a record, but my favorite was that it even applied each of the two Use Your Illusions. Fifty dollars for the whole thing! Holy shit! You could get used copies of the original LPs for substantially less, and the whole thing on CD for what, a dollar fifty?

It's laughable. I mentioned on the Neil Young thread seeing a reissue of Decade for $80. I'd estimate that $80 got me every Neil Young album from the first through to Re·ac·tor (14 albums) first time around--Rust Never Sleeps or Hawks & Doves at a minimum.

hi, bye

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