Autechre: Elseq

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xpost yeah maybe. sort of 'Grande Polyphonie' era Bayle hiding under the beats during the first half. I sure do love Bayle. no one ever posts to the Bayle thread.

really dislike the idea of buying a physical edition of this two to five disc album again later, but I was too impatient to wait.

Milton Parker, Thursday, 19 May 2016 18:57 (seven years ago) link

the other two tracks of elseq 2 are also excellent, agitated and glitchy

first impression: they do feel like 5 distinct collections, probably should have split them up instead of just queueing all in one go

StanM, Thursday, 19 May 2016 19:03 (seven years ago) link

lol someone .5 star'd this within 30 minutes of it appearing on RYM

frogbs, Thursday, 19 May 2016 19:05 (seven years ago) link

That's 247:38 total. You need a minimum of four CDs to hold that.

Ha whoa I was totally distracted by the high price point and missed how CRAZY LONG this album is. Really glad this isn't the 'repackaged live stuff' I was fearing

Brakhage, Thursday, 19 May 2016 19:07 (seven years ago) link

did a quick skim of all of it and it's exactly what I'm in the mood for this year

last year I broke down and bought the rest of the roland kayn CDs I didn't have, so all 29 of them have been in random shuffle -- another pioneer of an algorithmic approach to music, where the point is an unknowable flood of so much of it that you stop thinking of it in terms of 'pieces' or 'albums' or even physical media, you stop consciously thinking of it in terms of putting on a specific album. you just engage with it as sound without that record-geek side of your consciousness stepping in to track or map which one's your favorite or which album it is or which stage of his career it is you're dealing with and instead it is all continuum. which is pretty much where you want to be; I don't want to know which disc I'm listening to.

roland kayn isn't on spotify or apple music of course, and those discs were expensive, so there's still a good deal of record geekery going on in getting myself to that space. but as everyone else I know is basically cozying up to the stream, generative music pieces from the 70s-90s is exactly what is helping me deal with living in a world that's making that transition

Milton Parker, Thursday, 19 May 2016 19:10 (seven years ago) link

they were doing something like that with quaristice versions

yeah I still think of Quaristice (Versions) as the quote-unquote "real" album. might have another go with those Quadrange EPs - dunno if I can stomach that 58 minute track again though

frogbs, Thursday, 19 May 2016 19:19 (seven years ago) link

Current status

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mdvu5ubs2J1qznncz.jpg

Brakhage, Thursday, 19 May 2016 19:30 (seven years ago) link

yeah i forget which of the quaristice versions/ep/etc tracks are which, just the generative idea
eastre (22:15) = this feels like it might have been generated from 'altichyre'

Oh well I guess that's where I'll be starting then. When I get a chance.

I've had Eno, ugh (ledge), Thursday, 19 May 2016 20:11 (seven years ago) link

arright then. let us know what happens

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Thursday, 19 May 2016 20:14 (seven years ago) link

Sure thing kid, if I make it out alive.

I've had Eno, ugh (ledge), Thursday, 19 May 2016 20:52 (seven years ago) link

Fuck it, I'm gonna splurge on this and then make it the soundtrack for my flight to Detroit

Crazy Eddie & Jesus the Kid (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 19 May 2016 20:53 (seven years ago) link

ashley must hear this

home organ, Friday, 20 May 2016 02:48 (seven years ago) link

c16 deep tread is tiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

0 / 0 (lukas), Friday, 20 May 2016 04:02 (seven years ago) link

5 albums. Okay what am I, a machine??

TARANTINO! (dog latin), Friday, 20 May 2016 08:06 (seven years ago) link

Has it really been 4 years since Exai? Needless to say I'm still just scratching the surface of that one.

TARANTINO! (dog latin), Friday, 20 May 2016 08:09 (seven years ago) link

Only 3 yrs since Exai

Steve Reich In The Afternoon (Against The 80s), Friday, 20 May 2016 09:20 (seven years ago) link

And I'm still finding new stuff in it!

Steve Reich In The Afternoon (Against The 80s), Friday, 20 May 2016 09:21 (seven years ago) link

I'm still finding new tracks in it.

TARANTINO! (dog latin), Friday, 20 May 2016 09:49 (seven years ago) link

Listened to 3 last night. mesh cinereaL sounds like this:

http://www.pocmtobs.com/-%20New%20Folder/Nasa/Dscn0034a.jpg

Also has two quality lol moments, I was grinning when it finished. I yearn for more! I did have a freaky scary dream afterwards but hopefully that wasn't related.

I've had Eno, ugh (ledge), Friday, 20 May 2016 12:07 (seven years ago) link

To gear myself up to this, I've been revisting Quaristice and Oversteps, one of the most underrated eras of Autechre for some reason.

TARANTINO! (dog latin), Friday, 20 May 2016 12:54 (seven years ago) link

Where can I hear whole versions of these tracks? They're cutting off at the 1 minute mark.

TARANTINO! (dog latin), Friday, 20 May 2016 12:57 (seven years ago) link

Generally involves purchase.

MatthewK, Friday, 20 May 2016 12:59 (seven years ago) link

I remember when Exai came out I complained that this was too much autechre to take in at once.

If this trend continues, their next album is going to be 8 hours long

silverfish, Friday, 20 May 2016 13:16 (seven years ago) link

I should point out though, that 3 tracks in, I'm enjoying this very much

silverfish, Friday, 20 May 2016 13:17 (seven years ago) link

mesh cinereaL is primo stuff. have only heard parts of 4 and 5, but it sounded good on the surface.. some of the sounds recalling their late 90s ep7/lp5 tones and textures, and some weird, minimal dub-ish shit. lot of shuddering reverb/decay

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Friday, 20 May 2016 21:17 (seven years ago) link

End of c16 deep tread is straight outta the live sets.

I've had Eno, ugh (ledge), Friday, 20 May 2016 21:35 (seven years ago) link

nobody can shudder a reverb like sean and rob

home organ, Friday, 20 May 2016 23:27 (seven years ago) link

you know, like the outro of bladelores. and that of nodezsh

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Friday, 20 May 2016 23:42 (seven years ago) link

Well, just getting around to listening to this... probably heard about ~60% now. Lots of tracks feel like they're missing something. Some are mind blowing and classic. Feels like the Quadrange EP in relation to Quaristice. Or like they decided to release the entire batch of tracks they were considering for an album in anticipation of said album.

While I really love a good chunk of what I've heard so far, my first instinct right now is editing this down to a 70-90 min version of epicness, because it's there.

Some track thoughts:
spaces how V - feels like a remix of an old Oversteps track. doesn't fit the aesthetic, but I do enjoy the overdriven reverb moments
(any of the songs >20 mins) - noodly, too long, and unnecessary
pendulu casual, TBM2 - fantastic ideas and soundscapes that work for 2 minutes or as a starting point, but just don't really go anywhere, alas
pendulu hv moda, foldfree casual - holy crap this is amazing. like career highlight amazing.
disc 4 is my favorite so far

octobeard, Friday, 20 May 2016 23:47 (seven years ago) link

is no one else just a little bit pissed off with this kind of bullshit?

TARANTINO! (dog latin), Saturday, 21 May 2016 01:50 (seven years ago) link

Eh not really, I don't know. I'm happy they're releasing new tunes and I'm happy supporting them in their endeavors. If you assumed a five disc release wasn't going to contain huge swaths of filter, don't know what to tell you. My Autechre friend who I geek out with this is holding off until the physical release and I don't blame him.

octobeard, Saturday, 21 May 2016 02:12 (seven years ago) link

Filler not filter. Plenty of filters in this release too though

octobeard, Saturday, 21 May 2016 03:22 (seven years ago) link

xpost - according to warp there will be no physical edition

linee, Saturday, 21 May 2016 04:05 (seven years ago) link

Xxxp - what bullshit? Are you just pissed off you can't stream them?

I am using your worlds, Saturday, 21 May 2016 04:37 (seven years ago) link

Yeah I know I've drunk the ae kool-aid but I'm not pissed off that my favourite band have released more material. Did people get pissed off by aphex's soundcloud dump? Ok that was free. Or the Beatles' 12 albums in 8 years?

I've had Eno, ugh (ledge), Saturday, 21 May 2016 15:19 (seven years ago) link

Anyway, a previously unplanned solo 5 hour drive on tuesday will give me a chance to play the whole thing at decent volume, a rare chance with a baby in the house (10 weeks a bit young to start ae indoctrination).

I've had Eno, ugh (ledge), Saturday, 21 May 2016 15:31 (seven years ago) link

they're digital champions

home organ, Saturday, 21 May 2016 15:39 (seven years ago) link

haha i'd had a few beers and i was being facetious upthread. Just y'know, it takes time to digest an Autechre release. 5 Of them in one go is like trying to eat a whole pack of crackers in one sitting with no water.

TARANTINO! (dog latin), Saturday, 21 May 2016 15:45 (seven years ago) link

more isn't always more.

TARANTINO! (dog latin), Saturday, 21 May 2016 15:45 (seven years ago) link

and yeah that soundcloud dump was a bit ridiculous too. most of it was rubbish and i didn't have the patience to filter through all 130 tracks or whatever they were in the hope of recapturing what, the old Aphex magic? I dunno, at least with Syro he had the decency to whittle things down to a single album.

TARANTINO! (dog latin), Saturday, 21 May 2016 15:48 (seven years ago) link

it's ok to get one of these at a time if you want

home organ, Saturday, 21 May 2016 15:50 (seven years ago) link

they should probably release another ep so dog latin can liken it to eating approximately one twelfth of a packet of crackers in one sitting

i.e. one cracker. unless it's one of those 'EPs' that's as long as an album plus a 40 minute ambient track tacked on the end.

TARANTINO! (dog latin), Saturday, 21 May 2016 15:53 (seven years ago) link

my point is, is it all quality stuff? really? if so then go ahead and release 10 albums, I don't care, but I find it hard to believe there's a reason for doing this beyond having no filter.

TARANTINO! (dog latin), Saturday, 21 May 2016 15:54 (seven years ago) link

don't forget the 28 hours of live performances.

koogs, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 10:08 (four years ago) link

and those weird colour-noise videos

YOU CALL THIS JOURNALSIM? (dog latin), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 10:18 (four years ago) link

indeed, they are restless spirits

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 11:15 (four years ago) link

you could also maybe add FSOL's endless stream of archival releases & Moby's very long ambient albums, though this along with the Aphex dump all seem like very different things than what Autechre & Underworld are doing. both those groups have always produced a ton of music & I think the 'trend' is just to go, "what if we didn't have to cut this to an hour?". to me there isn't a huge difference in what Ae is doing now and say, the Tri Rep/Garbage/Anvil Vapre period, or say LP5/EP7, just that those releases were edited to fit the CD and these aren't. which in turn affects the sort of things they choose to pursue. in Underworld's case, they've always had endless B-sides and non-album tracks for people to obsess over, most of which just never got released

frogbs, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 15:36 (four years ago) link

to me this definitely feels like artists not having the constraint of physical media as the main distribution method anymore and adjusting accordingly + having a solid enough fan base so that they can release really long and possibly difficult material and know that enough people are willing to put in the required time to listen to that material

silverfish, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 15:44 (four years ago) link

Also more releases probably = more streaming revenue, right?

lukas, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 16:08 (four years ago) link

Well, since streaming revenue is per track listened rather than time listened, then autechre are possibly making bad business decisions.

silverfish, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 17:22 (four years ago) link

of course since Oversteps their releases have roughly gone 1, 2, 4, 8 hours in duration - awaiting the next with interest

Two more and they'll be up there with Terre Thaemlitz's Soulnessless (16GB microSD card, 32 hours). I never bought that, but I did get that Farmers Manual DVD-ROM back in the day. About 93 hours of material on that. Of which I think I've heard about 2%. Still, time off over Xmas, eh?

Michael Jones, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 17:51 (four years ago) link

if you just play them all the time then you don't have to remember anything

― j., Tuesday, December 3, 2019 1:26 AM (eleven hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

this is pretty much my philosophy

Paul Ponzi, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 18:25 (four years ago) link

fretting about remembering track titles is for boomers

éminence rose et jaune (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 18:29 (four years ago) link

to me this definitely feels like artists not having the constraint of physical media as the main distribution method anymore and adjusting accordingly + having a solid enough fan base so that they can release really long and possibly difficult material and know that enough people are willing to put in the required time to listen to that material

― silverfish, Tuesday, December 3, 2019 10:44 AM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

tbf this level of loyalty currently applies to about .02% of all living / working artists

Paul Ponzi, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 18:29 (four years ago) link

one month passes...

https://8apr.de/transmediale/

j., Saturday, 4 January 2020 04:14 (four years ago) link

two months pass...

Listening to curvcaten and the percussion feels like it's crawling into my ears
(love that wall piece too, j.)

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Friday, 6 March 2020 05:38 (four years ago) link

eight months pass...

"feed1" is the best thing that's ever happened to me

― american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, November 21, 2019 9:08 AM (one year ago) bookmarkflaglink

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 4 December 2020 04:53 (three years ago) link

two years pass...

7th slip is so weird. It's really weird audio. It starts off weird and then gets weirder.

silverfish, Thursday, 15 June 2023 18:20 (ten months ago) link

very weird. some autechre tracks are like a really bizarre cursed image to me. i listen in horrified awe.

ꙮ (map), Thursday, 15 June 2023 22:05 (ten months ago) link

Nine is the most cursed of them all

Do I look like I know what a jpeg is? (dog latin), Thursday, 15 June 2023 23:44 (ten months ago) link

Not Mine, Bine

Do I look like I know what a jpeg is? (dog latin), Thursday, 15 June 2023 23:44 (ten months ago) link

Argh fecking phone.

I definitely mean Bine. Not Nine. And certainly not Mine, which is a track on their next album

Do I look like I know what a jpeg is? (dog latin), Thursday, 15 June 2023 23:45 (ten months ago) link

I feel like there's cursed but I dig it, and just plain cursed - lots of NTS 2 & 3 and the entirety of l-event just has me scratching my head.

ledge, Friday, 16 June 2023 08:16 (ten months ago) link

two months pass...

I think this might be their best

sean paul akerman (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 29 August 2023 20:21 (seven months ago) link

Actually, it's probably NTS Sessions

MODS

sean paul akerman (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 29 August 2023 20:53 (seven months ago) link

was gonna say

assert (matttkkkk), Tuesday, 29 August 2023 21:38 (seven months ago) link

no it's this one

ivy., Tuesday, 29 August 2023 21:45 (seven months ago) link

Let's settle this:
Latent Poll: Pick your favorite long form Autechre album (2013-2020)

octobeard, Tuesday, 29 August 2023 22:11 (seven months ago) link

'c16 deep tread' has always been a highlight for me on Elseq. Those high, shrieking, wailing sounds towards the end are so spooky.
Might have already said this, but it reminds me of that penultimate scene in Ben Wheatley's 'Kill List' wehre they get chased through those tunnels by the demonic sect members.

Stomp Jomperson (dog latin), Thursday, 31 August 2023 09:30 (seven months ago) link

I think "foldfree casual" is their single most beautiful track. Soul-piercing synths

J. Sam, Thursday, 31 August 2023 14:31 (seven months ago) link


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