Warren Beatty, washing machine

Bening, Alec Baldwin, Haley Bennett, Candice Bergen, Matthew Broderick, Dabney Coleman, Steve Coogan, Taissa Farmiga, Ed Harris, Megan Hilty, Oliver Platt, and Martin Sheen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1JrMOiG5hc

I get the distinct impression that the actors making that movie had a lot more fun making it than any of its viewers will have in viewing it.

“Peter Lawford invited Beatty out to his house in Malibu for a night of tacos and poker, and Monroe was there. ‘I hadn’t seen anything that beautiful,’ Beatty recalls. She invited him to take a walk along the beach, which he did.”

In a presumed reference to their stroll. Beatty tells Kashner “it was more soulful than romantic.”

“Back in the house he played the piano. Marilyn sat on the edge of the piano in something so clingy that Beatty could tell she wasn’t wearing underwear. ‘How old are you?’ she asked. ‘Twenty-five,’ he answered. ‘How old are you?” he asked cheekily. ‘Three…six,’ she said, as if not wanting to bring the two numbers together.

“By then the tacos had arrived, and no one really played poker that night. Warren noticed that Marilyn was already a bit tipsy from champagne, even before the sun had set.

“The next day Harold Mirisch, brother of the producer Walter Mirisch, called. ‘Did you hear?’ he asked. ‘Marilyn Monroe is dead.’ Warren was one of the last people to see Marilyn alive — a story Beatty tells only reluctantly.”

http://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2016/10/warren-beatty-interview

He doesn’t smoke or drink and has taken good care of himself over the decades. “If you see pictures of me smoking,” he said as we drove up the canyon, “I was acting. What I do like very much is the smell of cigar smoke.” He had the distinction of being sent a box of cigars by none other than Fidel Castro, who admired Reds. “They were just unbelievable. I smoked one every night after dinner, and I talked until four A.M.”...

“There’s this misapprehension that it’s a biopic,” Beatty explains, “which it’s not, although Howard is an important character in it. I wanted to do a story about a girl who comes from being the Apple Blossom Queen of Winchester, Virginia [Marla Mabrey, played by Lily Collins], and a boy who is a Methodist from Fresno [Frank Forbes, played by Alden Ehrenreich], who is under the same religious influences that I was raised in. I wanted to do a story about that young man and that young woman that also deals with money and misogyny in late-1950s Hollywood.”

One doesn’t immediately associate Beatty with puritanical guilt and repression, but that is the world he grew up in, in conservative Virginia in the 1940s and 50s, and the one he has rebelled against his entire life. “I’m afraid it still remains a big subject in America,” he says, “which often makes us the laughingstock of France and other European countries. So I thought this would be fun to deal with—a young man and a young woman involved with an unpredictable billionaire, who had no rules he had to follow because of his inheritance and his way of life. So it’s also about the effect of Hollywood on those rules, and the effect of money.”

which often makes us the laughingstock of France and other European countries. So I thought this would be fun to deal wit

who gives a fuck what France thinks about us lol

The story of a young man coming to Hollywood from a conservative background is one he knows all too well. He and his sister, the actress Shirley MacLaine, were raised by Southern Baptist parents.

wow how the hell did i never know this?

I will never know why so women found Beatty hot. I don't see or feel it. Good hair though!

this is still my favorite lyric from "we didn't start the fire"

wow how the hell did i never know this?

I've always been fascinated by this tidbit. both seem like p fucked up people tbh

They lived in my neighborhood, and went to my daughter's school.

ever classy Shakes. i think the fact that they are alive and functioning after 60 years in that whirlpool attests to some sort of tenacious strength.

lookin fwd to the film

also WB praised his transgender son as a hero in that profile

beatty seems pretty chill, seems to have had an enviable life and career if that's the kind of life and career you're going for.

lol sorry to offend your delicate sensibilities Morbz, my wife just finished Shirley's daughter's autobio which does not paint a flattering portrait. I am a big fan of both of their bodies of work in general fwiw.

i'm sure Shirl can be a pain in the ass, i watched Letterman

less pain in the ass and more like narcissistic dimbulb

Shirley MacLaine is cool

that movie is already gone from NYC. The box office numbers are really awful.

http://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Rules-Dont-Apply#tab=box-office

I missed the screening; saw the Annette Bening motherhood '70s movie instead. Not sure I chose wisely.

The film ended up grossing $1.6 million in its opening weekend (with a five-day total of $2.2 million), finishing 12th at the box office. It marked the worst Thanksgiving debut ever for a wide release and 6th worst opening ever for a film playing in more than 2,000 theaters.

saw the Annette Bening motherhood '70s movie instead. Not sure I chose wisely.

this is like a rock v hard place deal except neither choice is as interesting as a rock

Rules Don't Apply
Budget: $25,000,000
Gross: $3,580,979

Ishtar [adjusted for inflation]
Budget: $117,034,290
Gross: $30,588,910

(I know he didn't direct the latter, but just for comparison's sake.)

$25M is low-budget for a period piece.

I've been meaning to watch Reds for years and years. I'm unlikely to have 4 hours to spare to watch it in one go, would it ruin it if I tried to watch it episodically?

if you must, I would go with halves; there's an intermission. It's only 3:20.

That sounds do-able, thanks Morbs.

Rules is not bad! All three principals are pretty good, in fact. Steve Coogan has one very funny scene in a cockpit while HH sings a Jolson medley.

Steve Mnuchin was a producer and has a wordless cameo (alongside a small gem of an Oliver Platt performance).

Beatty literally closes the curtain on his career in his last scene, works as a masked autobiography in many ways.

80 today!

the Karl story:

http://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2017/02/warren-beatty-pauline-kael-love-and-money

didn't know the lead actress in RDA was Paperlate's daughter

good take here:

http://www.csmonitor.com/The-Culture/Movies/2016/1123/Rules-Don-t-Apply-Warren-Beatty-s-directorial-return-is-disarmingly-light

rewatched Dick Tracy; love Pacino, Headly, the production design/effects and most of the jokes.

don't like La Ciccone and the loudness/replication of Burton's Batman in the last half hour (down to Elfman scoring it).

this is the best Sondheim song in it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDUZgORmrSY

Yeah thats about how i feel about it too

Madonna has one good line reading where she sez about the Kid "What a cute little boy," like she wants to smother him.

She is a terrible actress

well she's not even a compelling presence in this

This works:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJN5DO4Lvx0

https://variety.com/2018/film/news/beatty-rules-dont-apply-test-audience-ethnic-1202935368/

“I’m not looking for acclaim for the movie,” wrote Beatty, who is 81. “The movie will be recognized for what it is. It’s that I want money to come back to our investors to cover the P&A shortfall, in order to compensate them for the mistake of our finally gambling on a higher awareness for a movie starring two unknown young people and an old guy who hasn’t been on the theatrical screen for 15 years.”

That article is great, I loved Rules Don't Apply

“One possibility discussed was that the public was just not interested in the film, its stars, or its subject matter.”

My conclusions about Reds since my second viewing in 2006 remain unchanged: a confused movie made by a guy attracted to capital-I-ideas filtered through Old Hollywood notions of chivalry and moviemaking. When Jack Reed is burning dinner or bumping his head against chandeliers, I want to bury the DVD in the backyard. While the film captures Reed's magnetism (from what I've read about him), it misses his energy and commitment. To a degree I admire that Beatty, a product of the mummified remains of the studio system, conceived of Reed as a passive force, to the point of being topped by Lousie whenever they fuck often in the second half (their sex drives increase as the Revolution triumphs, yet anothe of the film's howlers).

Also, the film has no clue what to do about Louise Bryant. Is she untalented, hence her anger? Is he a frustrated talent? Is he Annie Hall, yelling "fuck" and throwing things and gibbering la-dee-da to herself?"

*is she

Just now had a vague memory of something about the way the talking heads were presented in Zelig being a critique of the way this was done in Reds.

Proud to say I still have my Rules Don’t Apply cocktail glasses, commemorating a movie I enjoy https://t.co/XKqX2P3kcd pic.twitter.com/SDZiLZork1

— Splat! Prigge (@mattprigge) October 25, 2019

It’s a good movie

https://screencrush.com/warren-beatty-dick-tracy-special-2023/

In Dick Tracy Special: Tracy Zooms In, TCM host Ben Mankiewicz invites film critic Leonard Maltin over to his office as he prepares for a Zoom call with the famous comic strip and movie cop, Dick Tracy. Tracy (Beatty) calls Mankiewicz and Maltin on Zoom — Beatty is seated in a black void while wearing Tracy’s trademark yellow hat and overcoat — first to compliment Mankiewicz on an interview he did with Beatty for TCM some time earlier. Then “Dick Tracy” explains his issues with the movie Beatty made about him in 1990, while he watches clips from the film. A good five minutes of this 30 minute show were literally just Warren Beatty dressed as Dick Tracy watching the Dick Tracy movie while muttering things like “Yes! Yes, that’s good!” and “No! No! That’s terrible!”

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2023’s Tracy Zooms In special builds to Maltin adding the “real” Warren Beatty to the Zoom call, and — as Mankiewicz and Maltin look on in disbelief — the two Beattys get into a rambling debate about the Dick Tracy movie and moviemaking in general.

it's fucking great and is making me wanna rewatch Dick Tracy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwYcwB_deG8

if i were warren beatty, i would get two dozen of these outfits made and not wear anything but
he should also go back to dating madonna

excellent, thx. this was the first movie i saw in a theater in america and still one of my favorite movies of all time.

Everytime Madonna comes onscreen=Tracy: "No no no..."