Mike Trout needs his own thread

also seems like a much bolder move than i would associate with arte moreno/the angels

http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=all&stats=bat&lg=all&qual=y&type=8&season=2016&month=33&season1=2016&ind=0&team=&rost=&age=0&filter=&players=

after yet another round of "is ___ better than trout now" nonsense, trout back in his rightful place

Harper's in a slump average-wise, OBP/Slugging fine. I don't know--I think the two of them are going to jostle back and forth for the next six or seven seasons. (I agree that Trout always seems to operate in the shadow of someone else.)

Just did a quick scan for longest streaks leading the league in WAR (pitchers included). Williams (with wartime interruption), Mays, Mantle, and Bonds all had four-year streaks; Trout is leading the league right now, which if he holds on would push his streak to five years; Ruth had an eight-year streak (almost 11).

Should have checked Wagner and Hornsby.

Wagner: 8 years, almost 13 (two third-place finishes mixed in).
Hornsby: 6 years, almost 11 (a 10th and a second mixed in).

Ruth almost hit 11 years--he had a 9th-place finish in there. I guess I'd choose Wagner's streak as the best ever. Can't think of anyone else who would rank with these names.

Don't mind me, just obsessing.

I missed Pujols and Walter Johnson, and messed up with Ruth, Hornsby, and Wagner. Here are the longest streaks:

1. Ruth (6 years)
2. Walter Johnson (5 years)
3. Rogers Hornsby (4 years)
   Ted Williams (4 years)
   Willie Mays (4 years)
   Mickey Mantle (4 years)
   Barry Bonds (4 years)
   Albert Pujols (4 years)

So Trout has a real chance to match or surpass Ruth and Johnson.

Matt Sussman, BP:

Since the Angels drafted Torii Hunter Jr., also a center fielder, then this means Mike Trout has the chance to push two Toriis Hunter to the corner outfield.

The plural of Torii is Toriii.

His OPS just hit 1.000, his best ever. Who will he finish second to in this year's MVP voting, Machado or Bogarts or Altuve?

My irony's a little disingenuous as, yes, I was rooting for Cabrera in 2012. (If I'd been entrusted with an actual vote, not sure how I would have voted...head vs. heart.) But it does seem clear that, like Mays, he's going to pile up a bunch of second-place MVP finishes to whoever the year's big story is.

12 HOFers he has passed in career WAR... this year

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2016/07/mike-trout-los-angeles-angels-career-war-hall-of-famers-24-mlb

(of course a few of them are dubious members)

Fewer dubious ones than I would have expected.

becoming more successful in deep counts

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/heres-how-mike-trout-is-evolving/

Great headline:

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/mike-trouts-teammates-dont-deserve-mike-trout/

http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/mlb/columns/story?id=6605429

i love reading his old scouting reports. apparently in HS he played a lot of SS (not a surprise, given his athleticism) and even dabbled with switch-hitting. can't find any video of this, sadly

"I can't tell people what I really think because they think I'm insane," Arkansas manager Bill Mosiello said from behind his desk. "Now, they're probably saying, 'You were right.'"

Scouts send Mosiello texts about Trout all the time. Here's one he got last season, when he managed him at Single-A Cedar Rapids, just a few months after Trout graduated from Millville High outside Philadelphia: Maybe this is what Mickey Mantle looked like at 18.

One said: My only prototype for him is Rickey Henderson.

Another said: I've been doing this 40 years. I've never seen a kid doing what he's doing.

The other night, two American League scouts were swapping information about Texas League players. One of them, who had just pulled into town, asked the other to describe Trout's speed. The other guy didn't say a word. He just got this canary-eating grin on his face and slowly traced the Nos. 8 and 0 in the air with his index finger.

Perhaps, in the interests of balance, we should get this out of the way immediately: Trout is not the perfect baseball-playing machine. He's a mediocre base-stealer for his speed, his arm isn't a weapon and some doubt he'll hit the ball with enough lift to be a big-time slugger in the majors. When he hits home runs, they tend to be rising line drives, more like the trajectory of a Ryan Braun home run than a Prince Fielder blast. He takes too many first-pitch strikes for some people's tastes, often hitting behind in the count.

on the way back to the dugout, he avoids eye contact. he sometimes reaches for his glove between innings and makes an imperfect connection with it. his older friend him that his dad died and he froze up. his next day he told him he was sorry but the mood had changed. his speed from home to 1B on routine ground balls to 3B declined significantly between his rookie and 4th seasons. he accidentally ran into the doorway on his way out of the shower. his WAR/PA rolling 20-game average rose and smoothed back down. his bloodied dental floss didn't fly entirely into the trash can. his z-swing % rose from 55.6 to 59.% from 2015 to 2016.

his fart butt farted butt fart

trout cycle watch: HR and a triple through 3 innings

25 today. with 160 homers, 130 stolen bases and 45 WAR

0-3 with 3 Ks. 25 year old mike trout kind of sucks

http://mediadownloads.mlb.com/mlbam/mp4/2016/08/07/1023638983/1470608058466/asset_1800K.mp4 tho

niiiice. he had a nice play going back to the wall last night too

Yeah, and hit a 3-run homer off Felix the other night. As an M's fan it's nice for once to see him do cool shit and not wipe out their barely visible playoff hopes.

lou brock played 18 seasons, had 3023 hits, stole 938 bases

trout has passed him in WAR

smh

You're going to wear yourself out making note of every guy he passes in WAR.

but do be sure to let me know when he catches current surname trout war leader dizzy trout (50.6 fWAR)

Most WAR since 2001:

1 Albert Pujols
2 Alex Rodriguez
3 Adrian Beltre
4 Miguel Cabrera
5 Carlos Beltran
6 Chase Utley
7 Ichiro Suzuki
8 Barry Bonds
9 Lance Berkman
10 David Wright
11 Chipper Jones
12 Matt Holliday
13 Scott Rolen
14 Jimmy Rollins
15 Derek Jeter
16 David Ortiz
17 Evan Longoria
18 Robinson Cano
19 Joe Mauer
20 Mike Trout

Obviously, position players. Sabathia, Greinke, Kershaw, Felix, Hamels, and Verlander would be on a pitchers-included list if you use Baseball Reference. (Not meant as a slight to Trout.)

My takeaway from that list: Bonds retired ten years ago and he's still 8th???

really a surprise? those last years were y'know

yeah whoops I forgot to mention no pitchers

trout is hitting .302/.356/.583 in 104 PAs that have reached 0-2 this season

MLB is collectively hitting .150/.158/.222 in those situations

dang dog

yeah he's an insane 2 strike hitter, he has no fear

it's practically boggsian!

http://www.baseballspast.com/samplepage_files/11094_master_%202_strike_hitting.pdf

They were talking about the AL MVP vote on one of the local call-in shows. Assuming it's a five-way race (Trout, Altuve, Donaldson, Betts, and Machado--you could add Ortiz, I suppose), I think Trout's going to benefit this time from all the closely-matched candidates on contending teams. Voters who only pick players from contending teams as their #1 will still have Trout third or fourth at worst, maybe even second; he'll get #1 or, at worst, #2 votes from more sabermetric-minded voters. Meanwhile, all the other #1s will be scattered between four or five players.

i think if the season ended today the final order would be betts/altuve/donaldson/trout/ortiz/machado

whoa

http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/17437855/mike-trout-los-angeles-angels-uninjured-serious-highway-crash

up to 9.3 WAR

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/the-case-for-mike-trout-for-american-league-mvp/

they're doing these pieces for all the contenders, but trout really is the only choice. a month ago that wasn't the case tho!

xpost only 8.2 by fWAR, but still way more than the runner-up (donaldson, 7.0 fWAR)

why does this guy sit so many games now :(

because the angels are anything but

he's up to 10.0 rWAR now

i don't know why i chose these particular players, but trout appears to be keeping pace

http://i.imgur.com/OIeBQ6L.png