Top Gun is on the History Channel?!

30 years old!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAopLTK4qVs

the meisterwerke of cinematic giant thomas cruise mapother iv

how did it get so gay?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/thinking-man/how-did-top-gun-become-so-gay/

Manly men, being men.

Funny thing: when the movie came out, my dad had just served a short stint on an aircraft carrier as part of that year's RIMPAC exercise (thus: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exercise_RIMPAC ) involving contact with the submarines, which would lead to him being chief of staff for an admiral in a carrier group shortly thereafter (keep in mind his career was mostly submarines, so this was somewhat atypical, but given both subs and carriers are based out of San Diego, it was an easy temporary shift since he'd long since built up his career cred -- would have been an officer for almost 25 years at this point -- and after that he was the exec to the admiral in charge of the entire sub base at Point Loma). Anyway: we all went to see it as a family, and since we were Navy, living in San Diego etc., we were mostly watching it for the locations and the verisimilitude as much as would be allowed. Dad essentially became our own private narrator about a lot of the flight sequences, the crew and procedures involved on deck and so forth and that was totally fine, I think we were mostly bored with the story! Our conclusion was that Anthony Edwards was the one who actually acted most like a real Navy guy down to the mustache.

But as for it being gay as hell -- nah, no conscious thought about that at ALL, not that I think we would have even talked about it to begin with. I remember being amused by the volleyball sequence but mostly because I thought it just dragged on a bit and the song was goofy as hell.

a service that doesn't think twice about calling an exercise 'rimpac' may have a bit of a blind spot when it comes to homoerotic overtones tbf

Submarines, as is well known, are long, hard, and full of seamen, so.

Chinese fighter flies inverted over US Air Force jet

http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/18/politics/china-us-jets-intercept/index.html

they've been studying the classics i see

Whole movie? Nothing but a strip volleyball match.

Val Kilmer is indeed reprising his role as Iceman in 'Top Gun 2'. https://t.co/dODdP3hyzY

— Collider (@Collider) June 6, 2018

Cruise’s Oblivion filmmaker Joseph Kosinski is in the director’s chair.

He's no Tony Scott, and I mean that sincerely.

otm

KERSPLODE!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSqVVswa420

glad to see they have a scene were they're on the beach oiled up like turkish wrestlers

i will definitely watch this

Can we get a Broken Arrow sequel next? Christian Slater isn't doing much these days.

oh hell yes, when you've got movies like Val Kilmer in them, you can't lose!

I plan on setting aside a weekend next summer to watch this, the Sonic the Hedgehog movie, and my VHS copy of Prefontaine, and call it my weekend of speed.

probably don't need to explicitly mention it, but I will also be consuming a vigorous quantity of methamphetamine while watching the movies

I had to look it up, but apparently there is no maximum age to be a military pilot. Would have been awesome, though, if this was about Maverick as a commercial pilot.

(Unrelated, just watched Easy Rider last night, and a lot of young Nicholson's smily mannerisms reminded me of Cruise's!)

weird to think Tom Cruise is now three years older than Jack Nicholson was when A Few Good Men was released.

Oh my god !!!
Beach volley, flight jacket and... F14 (how’s that even possible !? CGI, eh?) !!!
I’m a 10 yo boy again...

i was unenthused for about a nanosecond and rhen i saw Maverick and jets and :D

also Jennifer Connelly!

Ed Harris looks like a dusty old sphinx in that opening shot, it looks like he’s made of sand! Bad makeup/lighting job there :(

Yeah J. Connelly is a great surprise !

Harris is only 11 years older than Cruise!

man tom cruise is really dead-set on dying during a stunt on a movie shoot isn’t he

five the people what they want

My main issue with this is that F/A18s are nowhere near F14s in the cool/badass aspect.
Since they CGIed ONE F14 apparently, they should have gone all the way !

didn't know we had fans of Reaganaut Propaganda Shit here

will this one go full Trumpist? ie the big final bombing of [Whatever]istan will be recalled at he last minute.

rmde

Tom Skerritt is still around, why isn't he in this thing? Or Kelly McGillis? Or Anthony Edwards as Cruise's ghost friend who gives him advice?

On the other hand, Manny Jacinto is in it, which is good. On the other other hand, Miles Goddamned Teller is in it.

Maybe the twist is that in this one Tom Cruise is a Russian agent.

america, russia, whatever. maverick's only in it for the jazz

the original top gun is a fairly apolitical movie considering. sure, the impetus for the movie is the sort of fashy enthusiasm for gleaming new technological wonders of warfare sort of à la the italian futurists, but the actual meat of the piece is essentially a sports movie - with simpson/bruckheimer and scott's days of thunder being essentially a poor redo of top gun with the action transposed to the world of nascar.

the whole competitive, locker-room grab-assing aspect of top gun is pure fiction - irl the "top gun" course has no winner and is not a competition. the technical advisor on the picture pointed out that they didn't have their classes take place in air-hangars and there wasn't a culture of broing down in the locker room after training but simpson and bruckheimer wanted more excuses to show the planes and more excuses to see tom and val in their underwear.

there's something very high school about the whole thing. there's also nary a mention of ideology or even any half-baked geopolitical rationale for the skirmishes that take place in the movie. the enemy are clearly of the state socialist kind, with their MIGs with a star painted on them. it's also extremely homoerotic and kitschy

Maybe the twist is that in this one Tom Cruise is a Russian agent.

Nah, Chinese:

There’s a new Top Gun movie coming out. And Maverick is wearing the same leather jacket - only this time it’s Communist Party of China-approved, so the Japanese and Taiwanese flag patches are gone (screenshot on right is from the new trailer)... pic.twitter.com/gUxFNFNUKX

— Mark MacKinnon (@markmackinnon) July 19, 2019

in which miles teller sports a moustache in tribute to his dead dad, anthony edwards

http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PLZQfnFyelTBOQ15kmHSgEbdjzLMWzZpL7&time_continue=25&v=g4U4BQW9OEk&feature=emb_title

my apologies to sic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flURw76_UCU

ok, i haven't watched top gun in a long time, but this is how i remember the best scene:

goose has died. tom cruise is in a hot steamy bathroom back at the base. he’s in his underwear and his head hangs down over the sink. he’s defeated. the captain walks in and sees Maverick looking so down. the captain takes a piss. Maverick starts complaining and whining about life. The captain listens for a bit. then he says, “goddammit Maverick.” and Maverick looks stung but still keeps his head down like a dick. “Don’t tell me about losing Goose. Don’t tell me I didn’t love him. We all loved Goose. GODDAMMIT MAVERICK!” and he pushes Maverick hard in the chest. Maverick’s mad now. they’re both mad. the Captain storms out and Maverick looks at the door closing, breathing hard now.

now i'm going to try to find that scene and compare

hm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmAmb36jafA

top gun maverick is beautifully ridiculous and i enjoyed it quite a lot

the kilmer scene was gr8

I never saw Top Gun and am doing an oscar sweep, figured fuckit i might as well see the original if i have to see the sequel.

I'm sure everyone already knows this as I'm forty years late to the party BUT: better than average direction that makes the aerial sequences comprehensible and enjoyable, Cruise is good and there's solid acting throughout (with the exception of McGillis who seems drugged), but holy shit this script though.
Predictable and dogshit dumb, daddy-do-you-love-me-now, adolescent small dick power fantasy tech fetishism at its worst. it is also super sweaty and homoerotic as all get out. And the music and score sucks!

how dare u

faltermeyer score rules, forks drools

let the record show that my chin is dry

How did you feel when goose died? Maverick takes it pretty hard

Goose's breath taken away, then narcissist Maverick says MY BREATH is ALSO taken away BY THIS LADY

i haven't seen the new one, but i'm really hoping that they realize that Goose is actually alive, but he's been working undercover for the russians for the last 30 years, ever since his "death". maverick is forced to make a difficult decision about whether or not to kill his friend as he is also forced to make some very difficult flight maneuvers in his Boeing F/A 18E/18F Super Hornet in a once in a lifetime adventure you won't want to miss

His spirit (and moustache) are alive

maudlin and slow 'Great Balls of Fire' cover

This disagreement over the 2022 Top Gun Sequel has striking parallels with another disagreement over an Anglo-Irish Treaty

is there significant space between forks being wrong about a movie and "threadshitting"

yes

is engaging with him strongly on the former good

yes

is just flinging out the latter ok

no

is the point of the whole exercise to be able to disagree and entertain ourselves- id have said so

perhaps im wrong

honestly I think I could have diffused this situation had I pointed out "furtermore" soon as I read it but was too in my cups/beside myself at the time, anyways thank you for that

have not seen either top guns but I suspect everyone is otm in their own special way, I do think it is bullshit that kelly mcgillis wasn't involved on account of the crime of...being an old lady, we can't all look like jennifer connolly, or tom cruise who is older than my dad yet looks younger than me, somehow

He eats placenta for breakfast.

is just flinging out the latter ok

no

Watch that much TV

if you dont care about the hot dog sequel you are wrong

I had a hot dog the other day for the first time in about 16 years, it was fine

Aren't we finally over shit stirring and ad hominem and snark and unfocused aggression and derision and bad faith readings of one another's jotted off texts?

to clarify, I don't think there was any threadshitting in this thread

you have to stay very continent while in the Top Gun thread or things get real bad when you do that 180 degree inversion after bombing the undisclosed enemy country

it seemed weird to me that they were bombing Norway in that film

i hope you'll stay, forks. i hope i didn't add to the bad feelings with what i said upthread - i was just trying to be funny.

i don't understand pop culture or really criticism in general, even after 20 years on this board, so i try to stay out of the serious discussions about it. if i were the millionth person to talk shit on something like the MCU (the massive popularity of which alienates me as a human being) it would be a complete train wreck. similarly, i am completely incapable of talking about something like top gun. i enjoy reading everyone else's takes though

(and even then, now i re-read what i posted and am afraid that it will be misunderstood and people will hate me for it. i am not sitting on a throne judging MCU and pop culture; i am a bird that just flew into a window, again)

The Oscar for Best Sound goes to...'Top Gun: Maverick' #Oscars #Oscars95 pic.twitter.com/zog6ZAvNjf

— The Academy (@TheAcademy) March 13, 2023

Finally watched Maverick last nite... it was seriously one of the dumbest movies I've ever seen!! If I were a screenwriter, I feel like I would have been embarrassed to even pitch most of the plot points; let alone write them down; let alone put them in the actual movie!

FWIW, I don't even like the first Top Gun that much (re-watched that one recently, as well) – but this made it look like The f'in Godfather!

Even the best aspects (IMO) of the first movie – terrific aerial photography; making air combat feel "exciting" – weren't really present here, because it felt so totally unrealistic (I don't know how "realistic" Top Gun actually was, but it at least feels that way). Once the actual dogfighting finally happens in Maverick, the movie has long since entered the realm of pure fantasy. (Also, with regard to the actual mission itself – do they think no one remembers Star Wars??)

Anyway, kind of shocked this was so widely loved – I feel like I have a good tolerance for "dumb fun," but this wasn't really "fun" (beyond laughing at it)!

I can't stand the first one, even the flying sequences.

the empire lost in star wars

which was also, come to think of it, pure fantasy!

Yeah, it was good fantasy!

well i wont be disagreeing with a word of that pan obv

obv