Seaver was as 51.7 at the end of his age-28 season, Pedro 52.0, Clemens 54.2. So he should stay ahead of those guys for another season, although keeping up with Clemens at the other end will be near-impossible.
― clemenza, Saturday, 14 May 2016 17:51 (seven years ago) link
(I was going by Baseball Reference.)
Pretty sure Fangraphs/ xFIP rates him more. Here's to another 50 WAR.
― Van Horn Street, Saturday, 14 May 2016 21:49 (seven years ago) link
Probably a dumb question but is it possible to figure out which game he'll likely be pitching in the Cubs/Dodgers series at the end of the month or is too far away to predict reliably?
― Immediate Follower (NA), Tuesday, 17 May 2016 16:04 (seven years ago) link
you could guess just by following the 5-man rotation and seeing when his turn would be up again. but it could be altered by rainouts, injuries, and weird baseball(tm) occurrences
― I look forward to hearing from you shortly, (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 17 May 2016 16:07 (seven years ago) link
A month-plus out, we left it to chance and it almost worked out--missed him by a day.
― clemenza, Tuesday, 17 May 2016 22:22 (seven years ago) link
I like looking up mismatched odds. You have to bet $375 on Kershaw today to win $100. That's about as long as baseball odds ever get--I guess Kershaw vs. the Braves would be even longer.
― clemenza, Monday, 23 May 2016 13:39 (seven years ago) link
he's sposed to pitch vs Bartolo (again) in NY next Sunday night, which means there should be some decent tix available due to the time switch
― we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Monday, 23 May 2016 14:02 (seven years ago) link
(ok, not as many as there wd be on a non-holiday weekend)
― we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Monday, 23 May 2016 17:26 (seven years ago) link
not as many as there were when i bought in anticipation 3 weeks ago
― normcore strengthening exercises (benbbag), Tuesday, 24 May 2016 01:12 (seven years ago) link
wow kudos
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 24 May 2016 01:47 (seven years ago) link
maddux alert through 8
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 24 May 2016 04:09 (seven years ago) link
https://twitter.com/SamMillerBP/status/734966240888819712
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 24 May 2016 16:39 (seven years ago) link
Obviously a little giddy and premature, but I love this:
•In five May starts, he has had more shutouts (three) than walks (two).
http://www.sportsonearth.com/article/180219652/clayton-kershaw-goat-may-2016-dodgers?partnerId=ed-10369488-658620023
― clemenza, Thursday, 26 May 2016 21:36 (seven years ago) link
his k/bb ratio rn is 100/5 o_o
― johnny crunch, Monday, 30 May 2016 01:05 (seven years ago) link
10 ks and no walks in 7.2 IP and who gets the win? adam liberatore, who blew a save in seven pitches.
this has been your daily outrage over something no one cares about anymore
― qualx, Monday, 30 May 2016 06:44 (seven years ago) link
https://twitter.com/BillPetti/status/737280851524911105
― k3vin k., Monday, 30 May 2016 14:54 (seven years ago) link
I was messing around last night with a six-year peak (consecutive seasons) comparison between some recent pitchers--I didn't write anything down, but I think it was Pedro first, Kershaw or Maddux second, Johnson and Seaver and Clemens behind them.
― clemenza, Monday, 30 May 2016 19:30 (seven years ago) link
Years and years of research here:
http://i1059.photobucket.com/albums/t427/sayhey1/pitchers_zpso9ar9u74.jpg
In honor of Adam Liberatore, I included wins and losses.
― clemenza, Tuesday, 31 May 2016 00:43 (seven years ago) link
Seaver was hurt in '74--I should have gone '68-72 for him:
100-53, 2.38, 147+, 1.030, 3.52.
With that in mind, I'd rank them 1) Pedro, 2) Kershaw/Maddux, 4) Johnson, 5) Clemens/Seaver.
― clemenza, Tuesday, 31 May 2016 00:49 (seven years ago) link
Aargh--let's try Seaver again, '68-73:
119-63, 2.32, 151+, 1.021, 3.58.
Same ranking.
― clemenza, Tuesday, 31 May 2016 00:51 (seven years ago) link
At home, against Atlanta, opposing pitcher 1-6 with an ERA near 6.00. Dodgers won last night, the Braves have lost two in a row. Betting $100 on Atlanta wins $400+. If I could, I would make that bet--the set-up is just too perfect.
― clemenza, Saturday, 4 June 2016 14:03 (seven years ago) link
Just for fun--my own--Kershaw's line minus his one bad start against Miami:
Games started - 12W/L - 9-0Team W/L - 12-0QS - 12Average game score - 77IP - 93.2R - 13ER - 12H - 53BB - 5K - 112ERA - 1.15WHIP - 0.622K/BB - 22.40
― clemenza, Saturday, 11 June 2016 16:31 (seven years ago) link
@McCulloughTimesClayton Kershaw is being flown back to Los Angeles to see team doctors.
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 28 June 2016 21:44 (seven years ago) link
Stay healthy, please.
― clemenza, Wednesday, 29 June 2016 00:26 (seven years ago) link
ffs please
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 29 June 2016 02:29 (seven years ago) link
at least it's a sore back, to counterpoint the trendy arm apocalypses.
― helpless before THRILLARY (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 29 June 2016 14:36 (seven years ago) link
got an epidural(?!), going on the DL
― mookieproof, Thursday, 30 June 2016 16:24 (seven years ago) link
:( hope the birth goes well stay strong little kersh jr
― qualx, Thursday, 30 June 2016 16:41 (seven years ago) link
@McCulloughTimesDave Roberts initially said the team hoped Kershaw would be back after the break, but then he backed off that. May be a little longer.
― helpless before THRILLARY (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 30 June 2016 16:45 (seven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3TuOQkN7e0
― Edgard Varese is god (of music anyways) (outdoor_miner), Friday, 1 July 2016 14:56 (seven years ago) link
@McCulloughTimesClayton Kershaw "didn't feel great" on Sunday, Dave Roberts said. He's shut down until his back pain goes away. His return? "Uncertain."
― Andy K, Tuesday, 19 July 2016 21:29 (seven years ago) link
http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/17108426/clayton-kershaw-los-angeles-dodgers-shut-due-continuing-back-pain
SMH
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 20 July 2016 00:16 (seven years ago) link
Out until at least Aug. 27.
http://www.foxsports.com/mlb/story/dodgers-ace-clayton-kershaw-moved-to-60-day-dl-080316
I'd shut him down for the year, but they're close enough in the standings to complicate that.
― clemenza, Thursday, 4 August 2016 01:23 (seven years ago) link
The starting pitching is doing very well without him iirc
― Van Horn Street, Thursday, 4 August 2016 02:15 (seven years ago) link
Looks like he's close to returning:
http://m.mlb.com/news/article/196718316/clayton-kershaw-throws-bullpen-session/
I'd say it's amazing that the Dodgers have taken over first in his absence, except it's an old story: everyone--GMs, writers, fans, me--tends to over-value the importance of one player. (Truer for pitchers, but holds for position players too.)
― clemenza, Sunday, 21 August 2016 03:31 (seven years ago) link
hasn't pitched in 8 weeks and leads NL pitchers in both kinds of WAR. nuts.
― The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Monday, 22 August 2016 16:51 (seven years ago) link
3-inning start for Rancho Cucamonga today
― The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 3 September 2016 15:46 (seven years ago) link
great job Kersh! said he's gonna start for LA in 4 games
― Bandol soleil for the St. Tropez tan (outdoor_miner), Sunday, 4 September 2016 03:25 (seven years ago) link
If he goes Friday and continues to take his regular turn, he'll have five more starts. I could see where his Cy Young case is still strong if he pitches well, but I think all the calendar time missed would point to Scherzer or Bumgarner. It could be a little like the year Josh Hamilton missed the last month of the season; he held on to the MVP, but I don't Kershaw will.
― clemenza, Monday, 5 September 2016 02:57 (seven years ago) link
Will become the second-fastest to 2,000 K tonight (after Randy Johnson). So not the second-youngest--I did a double-take at first. I'm guessing Seaver, Clemens, and Blyleven got there younger. Maybe Ryan, too; he got a bit of a late start, though. And the war probably interrupted Feller.
― clemenza, Saturday, 3 June 2017 00:36 (six years ago) link
No Seaver, no Clemens--very surprised.
http://groundballwitheyes.blogspot.ca/2015/05/youngest-pitchers-to-reach-2000.html
― clemenza, Saturday, 3 June 2017 00:37 (six years ago) link
every time i see this thread title in my bookmarks my heart skips a beat
― qualx, Saturday, 3 June 2017 00:41 (six years ago) link
Scherzer's just a couple of points from overtaking Kershaw on Bill James's "#1 Starting Pitcher Rankings" (it's all based on Game Scores, includes postseason play, and is a year-over-year running ranking):
1. Clayton Kershaw - 589.42. Max Scherzer - 587.23. Chris Sale - 5574. Corey Kluber - 537.55. Madison Bumgarner - 531
― clemenza, Wednesday, 7 June 2017 18:28 (six years ago) link
4 walks for kershaw tonight. he hasn't looked quite right this year― k3vin k., Saturday, May 6, 2017 11:17 PM (one month ago)
Having a great year, but I think you were onto something there. 7-0 lead tonight, proceeded to give up three HR; that's 16 for the year, tying his career high before the break.
― clemenza, Tuesday, 20 June 2017 04:04 (six years ago) link
make that 4
― qualx, Tuesday, 20 June 2017 05:08 (six years ago) link
how the fuck did he give up 2 to Reyes?
cheap 6-ER win for CK.
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 20 June 2017 10:53 (six years ago) link
past calendar year:
kershaw: 137.1 IP, 3.5 fWARjansen: 69.1 IP, 3.7 fWAR
― k3vin k., Saturday, 24 June 2017 17:40 (six years ago) link
Got out of a bases-loaded, one-out jam in the first, great after that.
Overall, definitely his shakiest year in a while. Going through his game log, though, he's only had the one (really) cheap win last week; every other win was 7+ innings, 0, 1, or 2 runs. There was one cheap no-decision (4.1 innings, 4 runs), and he wasn't good in either loss (6 innings and 4 runs in both). His other two no-decisions he pitched well (16 innings, 2 runs).
It wouldn't be accurate to say the gaudy W-L record is a mirage--reverse the cheap win, call the no-decisions a wash, and he'd be 10-3.
It's the home runs that have killed him this year (leading to his worst FIP since 2010 by a big margin). Everything else is right in line with 2011-2013 Kershaw, if not always the last three seasons.
― clemenza, Sunday, 25 June 2017 13:25 (six years ago) link
he's 93-0 when dodgers give him at least 4 runs of support
― freedom is not having to measure life with a ruler (outdoor_miner), Sunday, 25 June 2017 14:19 (six years ago) link