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― The Pizza Underground Is Massive (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 14 May 2016 16:01 (seven years ago) link
let's all talk about the dave clark five's "mystique"
― diana krallice (rushomancy), Saturday, 14 May 2016 16:39 (seven years ago) link
Let's discuss Mystique
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― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 14 May 2016 16:40 (seven years ago) link
Agree w Josh on this. At the end of the day, selling records was important to Prince. And it's pretty clear from all the interviews with the likes of Mo Ostin and the fact that Prince actually kissed and made up with WB that his issues were a lot less with his label than with the frustration of depending on a corporation to sell records and be relevant.
― Naive Teen Idol, Saturday, 14 May 2016 16:54 (seven years ago) link
Btw, in that infamous WMGGW RnRHoF video, who is the other guitar player playing the riffs off the record on far stage left?
― The Pizza Underground Is Massive (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, May 14, 2016 8:23 AM (1 hour ago)
Marc Mann.
― timellison, Saturday, 14 May 2016 17:16 (seven years ago) link
Hadn't plans for vinyl reissues been inked before his death? Does anybody even buy CD reissues anymore?
The vinyl reissues have been quietly released. In fact, if Prince hadn't died I probably wouldn't have known about them in the first place. As for the CDs, it seems like a well-managed reissue campaign would have been on par with something like the Beatles remasters or something. Prince's WB stuff is one of the last major artist catalogs to be overhauled, with his core fanbase are highly likely to have their numbers also counted among those who are still into physical media, be it CDs or Vinyl.
― Now I Know How Joan of Arcadia Felt (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 14 May 2016 17:28 (seven years ago) link
Did someone upthread mention SIGN 'O' THE TIMES getting a vinyl reissue this year?
― Pentenema Karten, Saturday, 14 May 2016 17:30 (seven years ago) link
Also, I think Purple Rain vinyl has already been re-released. Saw tons of new copies over past couple weeks. Nothing else.
― Pentenema Karten, Saturday, 14 May 2016 17:31 (seven years ago) link
Thanks, Tim.
― The Pizza Underground Is Massive (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 14 May 2016 17:32 (seven years ago) link
SOTT vinyl reissue out Aug 23.
― rhymes with "blondie blast" (cryptosicko), Saturday, 14 May 2016 17:45 (seven years ago) link
i guess this hasn't been posted here yet? pivotal performance in keeping current with that early 90's audience imo.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcMJ6l7Y5cs
― ulysses, Saturday, 14 May 2016 17:52 (seven years ago) link
The vinyl reissues which had already come out (everything up through/incl parade) were remastered for the occasion, by the way. The versions which were then sold on HDTracks for about a year were these remasterings. They sound fantastic. I hope they will again sell them digitally in addition to physical vinyl. Hell, maybe even cd???
If SOTT is finally coming out on vinyl reissue, hopefully that means it went through the same remastering the prior ones did.
― scarcity festival (Jon not Jon), Saturday, 14 May 2016 18:10 (seven years ago) link
yeah i wasn't arguing that Prince didn't care about fame or selling records. his maybe at times aggressive issues towards the industry are duly noted. i think it makes him what he is. it is part of him. it fuels his art. people think he should have done things differently, they want the same person who wears assless pants to be more reasonable in his business decisions. i say let his freak flag fly and that makes him even more unique. the business side of things was always a point of contention with him. i don't think if he joined in more with the exploitation that it was going to make him happier with the situation.
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 14 May 2016 18:18 (seven years ago) link
But obviously he didn't make things easy for journalists! To entertaining ends. No recording, interview the band first, wait for hours, that sort of thing.
god yeah, this is nuts, a nightmare. but being a friend of a couple who interviewed Prince the last few years, i think ultimately they considered it all part of his 'uniqueness'. I know some of the trickier interviewees I've dealt with have delivered the more interesting features, often precisely because they are so weird.
ALso, I had a brainfart and didn't realise you were referring specifically to that RS feature above - apologies Josh, I get where you're coming from more as a result.
― Elvis Santana (stevie), Saturday, 14 May 2016 19:16 (seven years ago) link
In any case, stuff is starting to disappear from Youtube so the mystique is starting to coalesce again.
― The Pizza Underground Is Massive (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 14 May 2016 19:38 (seven years ago) link
I'm really glad we had that window to get a glimpse of what we are missing. I downloaded as much of it as I could
― Iago Galdston, Saturday, 14 May 2016 19:40 (seven years ago) link
If they are finallystarting to take stuff down off YT, I must direct you all immediately to the very rare official video for Automatic, in the last couple of minutes of which Jill Jones and Lisa tie Prince to a bed and whip him
― scarcity festival (Jon not Jon), Saturday, 14 May 2016 20:29 (seven years ago) link
There are lots of videos I've never seen. That being one of them. There's so much on YouTube though that newbies would need a curator I think. Watching rehearsals and stuff is very cool but only really worth it if you've seen the proper shows.
The thing about Prince and fame is that virtually all his best music came as he was still a big star. He didn't get weirder or more experimental on his own. He got more conservative. He needed an audience to feel emboldened. And also to duck with.
― StillAdvance, Sunday, 15 May 2016 06:13 (seven years ago) link
*fuck with
All that stuff about wanting to be like ani di Franco. I don't think it was totally for him really.
Obv its kinda deluded to expect beyonce type exposure at his point. But he always thought whatever his latest was was as good as his past peaks. Prob even when he was making planet earth lol. I can't see Prince plAying the elder statesman like McCartney in the 90s, being seen with his disciples. I guess he did help and advise a lot of artists. but he didnt do the moves youre meant to make. Prince wouldn't turn up to a dangelo show to play funky guitar. He was crap at turning up to other people's shows. You'd have to go to him. Which meant he wouldn't expose himself to other audiences. Prince wasn't as friendly to his male artist-fans (Dangelo, Maxwell,etc) either. Not compared with liann le havas etc.
― StillAdvance, Sunday, 15 May 2016 06:24 (seven years ago) link
Maybe that's a normal legend thing though. I'm not enough of a Dylan phile to know how he played the game. But Prince never had his time out of mind moment I don't think. He was never going to sing about ageing or try to sound old like bowie either. Nor reinvent himself as a gangster like Ron isley did as Mr Biggs lol.
― StillAdvance, Sunday, 15 May 2016 06:28 (seven years ago) link
Tbh there are few black artists who have a career path like he does. Only Stevie really. Maybe Ray Charles. Stevie and Ray seemed to be beloved by mainstream America as they got older.
Btw am disappointed Cannes only had someone singing purple rain for their Prince tribute. I wanted to see a restoration and rerelease of under the cherry moon!
― StillAdvance, Sunday, 15 May 2016 06:34 (seven years ago) link
It is far from all gone. In fact some new stuff from the Triple Threat tour just showed up very recently.
― RIP Skeletons in the Closet (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 15 May 2016 13:58 (seven years ago) link
It is urgent and key to watch the triple threat tour pantomime routine that happens during the outro of "International Lover" where a bed rises out of the stage and Prince fucks it
― scarcity festival (Jon not Jon), Sunday, 15 May 2016 14:44 (seven years ago) link
I think someone suggested upthread that while Prince remained a great performer in his later years, his absolute peak was the 80s - anyway, I'm sure this is true, but for me the most amazing live material on youtube has been the bluesy stuff from the past 20 years - Motherless Child (some Vegas show?), Fury on SNL (now gone? anyone dl it?), the "Unplugged" Musicology MTV medley, Crimson & Clover on Ellen - and this completely unfathomable live version of a song I had not previously heard, believe it hasn't been posted yet, EMPTY ROOM from Montreux Jazz Festival:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Onx3sbNRbIY
― niels, Sunday, 15 May 2016 21:28 (seven years ago) link
yeah I posted that Empty Room upthread. Both these Montreux shows are excellent. The late career cheese kept to a minimum.
― Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Sunday, 15 May 2016 22:13 (seven years ago) link
Tried to dig into the later material that I had never really paid much attention to before but it didn't quite take. Still prefer the energy of the classic 80s recordings and live lineups and the idea that he hadn't quite totally perfected the projection of his star persona, there was still an element of him "becoming." He has to sing a song called "Baby, I'm a Star" because he isn't quite there yet.(Xp with "late career cheese")
― RIP Skeletons in the Closet (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 15 May 2016 22:15 (seven years ago) link
I know we discussed Prince as a guitarist but I watched his late period medley and stuff and even when I think he could've toned down the cheese and full band treatments, when he does solo its pretty bloody brilliant. And I only watched the superbowl and brit awards medleys.
― StillAdvance, Sunday, 15 May 2016 22:55 (seven years ago) link
Yeah, like that britpop thing.
If nothing else came out of this period of Prince remembrance, in the past few days I was reminded of this song, three decades long since forgotten by me and never before mentioned on ILX as far as I can tell:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjeAK_YIo8E
― RIP Skeletons in the Closet (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 15 May 2016 23:55 (seven years ago) link
Ugh, sorry typed "britpop" instead of "Brit Awards"
― RIP Skeletons in the Closet (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 16 May 2016 01:05 (seven years ago) link
I just heard 'holly rock' for the first time today, on the 1986 Detroit cobo auditorium 'birthday parade' boot (incredibly good boot btw)
― scarcity festival (Jon not Jon), Monday, 16 May 2016 01:13 (seven years ago) link
I remember that song because Sheila E. did it on a Chevy Chase-hosted SNL during that awful 1985 season.
― pplains, Monday, 16 May 2016 02:54 (seven years ago) link
Xpost There's a good vid recording of that show out there.
― Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Monday, 16 May 2016 03:38 (seven years ago) link
hey guys
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXP1ASZ9Phg
― sam jax sax jam (Jordan), Monday, 16 May 2016 13:41 (seven years ago) link
"billy's sunglasses"
51 minutes long
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yamkIIHBRFM&feature=youtu.be
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 16 May 2016 19:36 (seven years ago) link
I kept meaning to shut it off but I couldn't! Lol at Easter egg at the end for those who make it through. "Did you see the shining?"
Clearly this is Julian Cope's new favorite Prince track.
― scarcity festival (Jon not Jon), Monday, 16 May 2016 20:53 (seven years ago) link
any background on that track, when it's from, etc.?
― Οὖτις, Monday, 16 May 2016 20:58 (seven years ago) link
I had a particularly long and tedious task at work today so I just listened to Prince solidly throughout.
He was really uncommonly wonderful, wasn't he?
― it's getting ott in here / so take off all your clothes (stevie), Monday, 16 May 2016 21:05 (seven years ago) link
Graffiti Bridge holds up a lot better than I expected it would!
― rockpalast '82 (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 16 May 2016 21:16 (seven years ago) link
the movie or the album
― Οὖτις, Monday, 16 May 2016 21:19 (seven years ago) link
The bridge!
― it's getting ott in here / so take off all your clothes (stevie), Monday, 16 May 2016 21:21 (seven years ago) link
then there's this shit:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7lOETj1ggg
it doesn't really square with that Alan Leeds interview that talks about how Eric/Wendy/Lisa got him into jazz, he was already making jazz odysseys in '77 playing every instrument.
― sam jax sax jam (Jordan), Monday, 16 May 2016 21:24 (seven years ago) link
billys sunglasses sounds so much like ween
― kurt schwitterz, Monday, 16 May 2016 21:32 (seven years ago) link
dave is the best : http://www.theparisreview.org/blog/2016/05/13/you-think-youre-special/
― ANU (sisilafami), Monday, 16 May 2016 21:47 (seven years ago) link
man this 1977 unpublished stuff is niiiiice
― tylerw, Monday, 16 May 2016 21:53 (seven years ago) link
he's really doing everything there?
hmmm maybe not, this says Andre Cymone on bass and Bobby Z on drums:http://prince.org/msg/7/338317
― sam jax sax jam (Jordan), Monday, 16 May 2016 21:58 (seven years ago) link
well, whatever, this is great!
― tylerw, Monday, 16 May 2016 22:18 (seven years ago) link
oh my god, that channel has compilations for ever year through the mid-90s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8LqcIduRPI
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 17 May 2016 00:10 (seven years ago) link
rip/download while you can (i was sent that by a friend who is doing so)
― sam jax sax jam (Jordan), Tuesday, 17 May 2016 01:03 (seven years ago) link
not hearing any jazz odysseys in there, more light fusion of the type that was basically standard for that period, esp if you were a fan of rufus, the crusaders, weather report, etc, as i imagine prince was. but its great/interesting that even then, he had a pop ear for concision, and melody. i love prince's 70s period.
― StillAdvance, Tuesday, 17 May 2016 11:34 (seven years ago) link