Stone Roses - Stone Roses: C/D?

"I'm on a tightrope baby, nine miles high, striding through the clouds on my ribbon in the sky"

It's just fucking awful. Love Spreads is OK, Begging You is OK, How Do You Sleep is OK, Daybreak is kind of weird ad-libbed cod-funk but not awful despite that description, but the rest is just awful, awful, awful.

just realised i'd never knowingly heard the reformed roses playing anything and i was morbidly curious whether ian brown still sounded like he'd undergone a laryngectomy

all i could find on youtube was footage where the crowd's singing was louder than his, so it'll be interesting to hear what he sounds like on the new single

http://www.nme.com/news/the-stone-roses/92935

"I am very excited, for them mainly," Gallagher told NME of the band's return. "They're going to play some new songs. I bumped into Ian in a supermarket recently. He was buying chocolate flavoured shower gel. This is not a joke. He leant and said 'have you tried this?' and I said of course I hadn't. He swears by it, says it's amazing. And before it turned into a photoshoot with everyone and their cameraphones, he was telling me how excited they are by it all. He said it was like they were making their first record again."

although the rock bollocks on the second coming is indeed terrible, i'd still rather have that than the seahorses' 'Strap on Sally chased us down the alley / We feared for our behinds / Oasis was a shop with shoes so hot / They were sure to blow your minds'

you realise those lines are a direct quote from Auden, right?

pete auden, john squire's dealer?

I really do like 'Breaking into Heaven.' It's a shame it drops off after that.

I am sure this record will swagger

under the weight of its own swollen, portentous cobblers

I dont expect much but im still excited that there's new music by one of my fave ever bands. I loved the second coming, they should let Ian do the lyrics though.

Ian let John do most of the lyrics and songwriting on Second Coming because he thought there'd be plenty of chance for him on other albums. And there was! His solo albums.

Dave Haslam ‏@Mr_Dave_Haslam 54m54 minutes ago
Exclusive - the new Stone Roses single sounds like 'Tomorrow Never Knows' by the Beatles, esp. the guitar & drums...

a bold leap into the future by one of britain's most innovative bands

sounds promising

ah, that 'tomorrow never knows'

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I'm kinda curious as to what this is going to sound like, whether it'll be an extension of Second Coming or self-titled album retread. I'll be very surprised if it sounds more like Golden Greats.

So, I'm guessing this is to be released to make number one next week?

5 LTW articles on it by tomorrow lunchtime.

^ Ha! Yeah, totally!

Just heard it. It's a cross between "Something Burning" and something off of Second Coming.

Definitely not the chiming, Byrd-sy thing... was hoping for something more melancholy like "Mersey Paradise" but seemed alright. Definitely sounded like them.

playing right now:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006wqdc

I'm hearing something by Beaty Heart? which was not what I wanted to hear

ah, they played it twice in a row a minute ago

Lyrically and musically, kind of had the "One Love" / "What the World is Waiting For" vibe. The riff was a little Beatle-y though I can't pinpoint exactly which song, but tone was heavier, and had more noodly guitar, like stuff off Second Coming.

I wouldn't put it among their best songs, but it probably would have been in the top half of Second Coming.

Oh, it's on Spotify already.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CiR0ttCXIAACeXz.jpg

rather displeased with the lyrics, honestly... in their prime, they were able to straddle this delicate line between earnest positivity and sublimated contempt... but lyrically, this seems a little on the cheesy side.

I felt a mix of enjoyment and just plain relief it wasn't as terrible as it could have been. The lyrics are terrible, the riff's pretty good. I do have expectations for the album now.

Yeah, Ian totally dropped the ball here, not that anyone was expecting some Bob Dylan shit, but still...

New Radiohead, Stone Roses and Super Furry Animals within a week... sorely tempted to check my calendar to see what year this is.

and Misfits reunion. LOL.

i still love this band though, and regardless of how bad this song could have been, i'd still be excited for a new album

Pretty decent single tho its not Love Spreads level good. Its at least not a retread of the 1st album which is what I was dreading.

Haslam's got cloth ears, it's 'I Want To Tell You' not 'Tomorrow Never Knows'

it's The Bluetones covering the theme from 'Going For Gold'

lol

People have made this comparison https://youtu.be/P-xO72s5EBY

it's The Bluetones covering the theme from 'Going For Gold'

^^ first thing I've read that actually makes me want to listen to this

xp ok, doubly so after Kitchen Person's link

this song is a prank, right

no wait, the tweet that compares it to "Tomorrow Never Knows" is the actual prank? it must be

I've just heard it and PaulTMA's description isn't actually that far off the mark.

People have made this comparison

the character on the right bears a resemblance to Ian Brown, but aside from that, I'm not seeing it. Presence of the words "all for one" is not sufficient.

http://i.imgur.com/Fawqioj.png

Also, weirdly, it's probably the best Ian Brown's ever sounded. Shame the song sounds like mid-table mid-'90s Britpop.

Heard the 30s clip on Spotify. Oh dear. I'm saying that as someone who wanted it to be good.

Boy this is bad.

yada yada IMPLEMENTING MASS SURVEILLANCE!!!!!

. . .says the man through his piece of technology he willingly holds in his hand that has a microphone, two cameras, a network connection, and countless bytes of personal data contained in it.

but yeah, it's "the vaccine" that's going spy on you.

I’m throwing stones at you man

I’ve got bad intentions!

this is a great live version of 'waterfall'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zt3Hnu66sbo

Awesome drumming

had forgotten all about Cressa, wonder what happened to him

Just read Simon Spence's excellent book on the band... Wilson had them on OSM only because someone else had dropped out.

that rules, thanks for posting that, swanswan

hug, I had no idea they had their own dancing dummy.

yeah, had to share, the live drumming, particularly the outro make it a fresh as a daisy take on the song, fierce and dreamy at the same time. I wish I saw them starting out

Reni is so great. I love the story about how Pete Townshend tried to hire him after his first Stone Roses gig.

IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII’ve got bad intentions

The new album (Liam and John) has some great moments. The last two songs are wonderful. I suppose (some of) these are what would have been the Roses album? Who knows, I just love hearing RRRRAAAAAAYYYYNNNNBBBBAAAOOOWWWWWW

If only Mani or Pedi were involved

https://i.imgur.com/URXMfsF.png

Personal history may bias my opinion of the Stone Roses.

Tapes...yes tapes...of the debut album, as well as Disintegration and a ridiculously overpriced After The Gold Rush (which I bought in a gas station in Spain), made a bus tour of Europe in 1989 tolerable from a musical point of view.

Still a 4 1/2 star album for me.

ps. Neither Fool's Gold nor Elephant Stone were part of that original release. A compilation of these songs, as well other b-sides from that era make Second Coming seem like a bad joke.

Tbh this is a dud. Half of it's shit and the other half I perhaps unfairly blame for a lot of stuff I hate about the UK indie scene and even the good stuff is so overplayed I don't really need to hear it again

itt I tell the Stone Roses to fuck off in 2024. Finger on the pulse mw

My apologies Colon Poo.

You have much better taste in music than I do...

haha I definitely don't

I first heard this album in high school about 1999 and man I was completely totally 100% obsessed. “OMG! Best album ever!”, etc. As an American I missed all the cultural baggage associated with it and all the shitty music it influenced. I think that helped a bit. And of course the version I bought had “Elephant Stone” and “Fools Gold” tacked on, so I got more of a greatest hits album. Now it’s 25 years later and I am listening to it now and it still sounds pretty goddamn perfect. John Squire is the star of the show: the chiming arpeggiated riffs just keep coming at you over and over again and yet the guitar never overpowers the songs - easily one of the best rock guitarists I’ve heard. Shame that he obviously used up his entire bag of tricks on this one album. Didn’t they spend like eight years in between the time they formed and the time they released the album? Perfectionist bastards.

Agree that the album still sounds good and I also think that Fool's Gold/Something's Burning were a great next step forward which was totally forgotten by the time of the disastrous second album. I'm still surprised that Oasis are taken seriously as something amazing as opposed to this. Marr's autobiography (he is a huge hometown booster) totally ignores them (and the Mondays too I think).

Yes it’s still a fucking great album and anyone who doesn’t like “fools gold” is not to be trusted

the second coming is quite underrated. Take out 2 of the acoustic tracks in the middle and it'd be great.

Second Coming had great b-sides as well, particularly the ones that were recorded after the album was completed. Would love a deluxe reissue

thread that makes me realise I shouldn't be trusted!