This Is The Thread Where We Praise And Canonize Paul McCartney's "Ram"

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he's got a few

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 11 May 2016 23:18 (seven years ago) link

"Eat at Home" vs. "She's My Baby"

Darin, Wednesday, 11 May 2016 23:20 (seven years ago) link

It's a bonus track on the Special Edition of Ram, but anyway I was previously unaware of Little Woman Love vs. TVC15. I'm pretty sure there's a common ancestor, but I don't know what it is.

dlp9001, Thursday, 12 May 2016 00:47 (seven years ago) link

The vocal harmonies all over this record are really lovely...

there's some grating stuff though. "Long Haired Lady" would be the worst song on any album it appeared on. sometimes if I'm in the right mood the twee charmingness of it is okay but if it was on a Beatles album i would say yeah the Beatles suck.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 12 May 2016 01:02 (seven years ago) link

i've come to really love both of mccartney's first two albums a lot -- the self-titled one has a genuinely melancholy feel, even the instrumentals feel laconic and lonely, like paul's sitting in a room by himself, picking up one instrument after another and messing about with it, trying to cheer himself up. whereas this one is bursting with fun and playfulness, maybe a bit too much ("uncle albert" is at once dazzling and empty, like the abbey road medley without the emotion), but lots of it is on par with paul's late beatles work ("smile away" could have fit onto abbey road, i can easily imagine a great lennon backing vocal for it). and yeah like someone said upthread i wish this album had gotten better reviews so paul had kept making records like this instead of starting wings.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 12 May 2016 01:05 (seven years ago) link

"Long Haired Lady" would be the worst song on any album it appeared on.

whaa?

The "Bees are buzzing" bit with the phased, space echoed acoustic guitars is just all kinds of amazing and totally worthy of the Beatles.

Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 12 May 2016 03:02 (seven years ago) link

"I get the sense that some of the critical hate for this album came from a general disillusionment with the 60s ideal that McCartney represented. Lennon was more in tune with the creeping cynicism and "aren't the 70s a drag" vibe, while McCartney was still spinning out whimsy."

Yeah, but it's not really psychedelic whimsy per se. I don't see McCartney from "Lady Madonna" on as being particularly of "the '60s."

timellison, Thursday, 12 May 2016 03:48 (seven years ago) link

I absolutely adore "Uncle Albert/Admiral Halsey," by the way. It's "You Know My Name (Look up the Number)" made into a number one hit.

timellison, Thursday, 12 May 2016 04:08 (seven years ago) link

Yes.

The 'long haired lady' hate is about the intro, yeah?

I'm less keen on 'Monkberry', its too long really.

Mark G, Thursday, 12 May 2016 06:46 (seven years ago) link

how come no one talks about the backseat of my car? it's better than the long and winding road. dang it's one of the best songs ever written!

kurt schwitterz, Thursday, 12 May 2016 07:05 (seven years ago) link

Long Haired Lady is great wtf? I think 'Eat At Home' is the only weak point, sounds like a b-side, but even that has its charm.

TARANTINO! (dog latin), Thursday, 12 May 2016 08:10 (seven years ago) link

xpost oh yeah when that intro comes in it's like "A day in the life" as in "OK, last track you guys, but you ain't heard nothing yet.."

Mark G, Thursday, 12 May 2016 10:34 (seven years ago) link

was introduced to this album through the instrumental bootleg (believe it was officially released as part of the deluxe reissue) which I'm sure is mentioned upthread since it's very very good - also a great album with vocals (even if Macca may be exaggerating a bit on Monkberry...)

any thoughts on the shared credits Paul/Linda - similar working relationship as Lennon/McCartney, pro forma, smth in btween?

niels, Thursday, 12 May 2016 11:00 (seven years ago) link

Lennon/Macca didn't work together, mostly, sometimes did.

I would guess that Paul and Linda did work together on things, they were quite close, even though the publishers were all "You just want to keep 50% of the publishing you swines"

Mark G, Thursday, 12 May 2016 11:40 (seven years ago) link

i love the long outro on 'long haired lady'

global tetrahedron, Thursday, 12 May 2016 13:21 (seven years ago) link

Did you ever hear the remix?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWp80UZx64U

Mark G, Thursday, 12 May 2016 13:35 (seven years ago) link

Ha, wow, that's actually not too bad -- and yes, the coda is pretty great.

Weird we're having this conversation at all -- I love this song pretty much unconditionally.

Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 12 May 2016 19:26 (seven years ago) link

'The Back Seat of My Car' is probably the best song on the record!

But... could you imagine a formation in your lemonade? Ho! (Turrican), Thursday, 12 May 2016 19:46 (seven years ago) link

two years pass...

CANTAWTAAAAAAAA

niels, Thursday, 26 July 2018 19:24 (five years ago) link

Cantawtaw!. what a great album.

Gâteau Superstar (dog latin), Thursday, 26 July 2018 22:35 (five years ago) link

Steen was I, from the drive
Of the enemy's HOOS

This is a total Jeff Porcaro. (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 26 July 2018 23:10 (five years ago) link

Heart of the Country is better than some Beatles songs

Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 26 July 2018 23:43 (five years ago) link

the moment in Three Legs where he sings "and he can run" and the beat starts is my favorite moment on the album.

Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 26 July 2018 23:46 (five years ago) link

The terrible sound of TO MAH TO

ant banks and wasp (voodoo chili), Friday, 27 July 2018 00:56 (five years ago) link

“Heart of the Country” is the life I keep trying to aspire to.

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Friday, 27 July 2018 01:02 (five years ago) link

Also, Thrillington...

timellison, Friday, 27 July 2018 02:50 (five years ago) link

wah wah wheeeeeeeeee

This is a total Jeff Porcaro. (Doctor Casino), Friday, 27 July 2018 03:19 (five years ago) link

two years pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhEU7Z7HPH0

Maresn3st, Friday, 2 April 2021 12:38 (three years ago) link

clicked through that, rather slavish recreations but quite nice in places.

theres yet another reissue of this imminent, a half speed mastered version. I love this album as much as anyone but I don't know why this album needs to be reissued every other year

akm, Saturday, 3 April 2021 16:12 (three years ago) link

I figured it was so that people could keep making money off of something in perpetuity

Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Saturday, 3 April 2021 16:44 (three years ago) link

eight months pass...

I just sprung stupid (comparatively) money for a copy of the 2012 mono Ram. I have Hoffman-level Beatles obsession rn and I feel both icky and (I feel) fine about it.

war mice (hardcore dilettante), Friday, 10 December 2021 05:14 (two years ago) link

caught up in my first ever real beatles phase, i listened to this for the first time in ages this week (had only listened once before & didn't get it at all) & i'm really astounded

paul really really loved the beach boys huh

ufo, Friday, 10 December 2021 12:24 (two years ago) link

One of the best 420 albums ever if you are in a mindset where you can tolerate all the Paulness.

ma dmac's fury road (PBKR), Friday, 10 December 2021 12:59 (two years ago) link

A Paul-esque mix of the good and unbearable.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 10 December 2021 13:03 (two years ago) link

paul can have extremely bizarre and bad instincts at times but i don't think he really indulges those at all here, the paul quirks on display here are the most compelling ones

ufo, Friday, 10 December 2021 13:04 (two years ago) link

you’re talking to people who hate “uncle albert”

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Friday, 10 December 2021 14:14 (two years ago) link

haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaands across the water

ufo, Friday, 10 December 2021 14:19 (two years ago) link

The budder wouldn’t melt, so I puddit it the pie.

war mice (hardcore dilettante), Friday, 10 December 2021 14:51 (two years ago) link

I like all but one song here, but there's something off about the production on the whole thing, like everything in the mix is at the wrong level or in the wrong place. The mix sounds amateur even for 1971, even compared to Emmitt Rhodes. I had always assumed Ram was mostly home recordings, and I was startled to learn it was cut in New York with a bunch of professionals.

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 10 December 2021 16:03 (two years ago) link

“dear boy” is such a great song, sounds like paul imagining what smile was supposed to be like, and not landing too far off

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Friday, 10 December 2021 16:37 (two years ago) link

i also love the pop-up book mixing, which is pretty white album, not unprecedented

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Friday, 10 December 2021 16:44 (two years ago) link

I’m glad you’re having some Ram fever, ufo! I think I’ve listened to Ram more than most Beatles albums. I couldn’t post my Spotify Wrapped because my top five were all like Beatles, Neil Young, etc, so you know it’s extreme

my hands are always in my pockets or gesturing. (Karl Malone), Friday, 10 December 2021 16:51 (two years ago) link

"Eat at Home" has terrific guitar.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 10 December 2021 17:07 (two years ago) link

One of the best 420 albums ever if you are in a mindset where you can tolerate all the Paulness.

A Paul-esque mix of the good and unbearable.

Pretty much OTM. Re: the latter, "Smile Away" is like that at the same time. Fun and catchy but also pretty awful in its inanity. "Monkberry whatever" irritates the hell out of me - like a bad Cookie Monster impression.

The only cuts I like without qualification are "Too Many People" and "Back Seat of My Car," both great. "Heart of the County" has grown on me - charming and modest little number.

Not on the album, but I actually love the B-side "Oh Woman, Oh Why," a great, bizarre oddity.

birdistheword, Friday, 10 December 2021 17:08 (two years ago) link

His b-sides during this period run good to great

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 10 December 2021 17:31 (two years ago) link

ufo don't forget to listen to "another day", as well, which was a non-album single recorded in the ram sessions and released as his first post-beatles single. it's track 1 on the second disc of one of the remastered versions. it fits right into the Ram ethos and sounds great

my hands are always in my pockets or gesturing. (Karl Malone), Friday, 10 December 2021 17:32 (two years ago) link

"Monkberry whatever" irritates the hell out of me - like a bad Cookie Monster impression.

joyless opinion

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Friday, 10 December 2021 17:37 (two years ago) link

also wtf you don't like "dear boy" without qualification? macca haters get out

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Friday, 10 December 2021 17:37 (two years ago) link

COOKIE

my hands are always in my pockets or gesturing. (Karl Malone), Friday, 10 December 2021 17:38 (two years ago) link

^Never gets old.

Raw Like Siouxsie (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 10 December 2021 17:43 (two years ago) link


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